just flicked the TV on & the channel was on

[Raiderdave]

the bumbleball

at quarter time in some game between 2 teams of fumbling clowns

the score is
2 goals ( 1 each )

&


11 feebles





have you ever seen a more gimp infested sport as this one

OMG
its hilarious

athletes from other sports couldn't miss as much ...... if they tried :_<> :_<> :_<>

[piesman2011]

So what you are saying is that channel 7mate is like your default station. Do your wife and kids love AFL? Do they watch it behind your back? Very strange that you flicked the TV on and it was on 7mate. I think this must be an AFL conspiracy to destroy your reputation. Quick put your tin hat back on they are reading your mind again.

[Stewie]

So what you are saying is that channel 7mate is like your default station. Do your wife and kids love AFL? Do they watch it behind your back? Very strange that you flicked the TV on and it was on 7mate. I think this must be an AFL conspiracy to destroy your reputation. Quick put your tin hat back on they are reading your mind again.

/thread =D>

[Raiderdave]

So what you are saying is that channel 7mate is like your default station. Do your wife and kids love AFL? Do they watch it behind your back? Very strange that you flicked the TV on and it was on 7mate. I think this must be an AFL conspiracy to destroy your reputation. Quick put your tin hat back on they are reading your mind again.

no one watches that crap up here
& you know it
now back from the attempted deflection

why are VFL players so skilless ?

[piesman2011]

So what you are saying is that channel 7mate is like your default station. Do your wife and kids love AFL? Do they watch it behind your back? Very strange that you flicked the TV on and it was on 7mate. I think this must be an AFL conspiracy to destroy your reputation. Quick put your tin hat back on they are reading your mind again.

no one watches that crap up here
& you know it
now back from the attempted deflection

why are VFL players so skilless ?

I would have thought that the skill set required to play AR would be one of the most all round sets in world sport and therefore one of the hardest to master, in all of its aspects. Compared to league at the highest level, where you simply have to be able to pick up a ball which has been rolled underneath someone's foot, charge at three guys who tackle you and then roll the ball under your foot. In AFL there is a much greater chance that things can go wrong. In league, some guys don't even have the coaches permission to throw the ball 2 feet to the left or right and lets face it they don't need that skill because they have 5 tackles before any real skills need to come into play.
I quite enjoy league as a spectacle, lots of grunt, passion, hardness and patches of speed, however as far as skills required only one or two league players per team need a similar skill set to AR. This is why players from AR backgrounds such as Dally M and D Lockyer were able to play the game so well. AR has it all over league for all round skills and players are rewarded for taking risks and going for the hardest option, which i admit can look bad at times. In League, however the safest option is usually the preferred choice and only certain players are allowed to take these risks unless things are getting desperate.

[King-Eliagh]

So what you are saying is that channel 7mate is like your default station. Do your wife and kids love AFL? Do they watch it behind your back? Very strange that you flicked the TV on and it was on 7mate. I think this must be an AFL conspiracy to destroy your reputation. Quick put your tin hat back on they are reading your mind again.

no one watches that crap up here
& you know it
now back from the attempted deflection

why are VFL players so skilless ?

I would have thought that the skill set required to play AR would be one of the most all round sets in world sport and therefore one of the hardest to master, in all of its aspects. Compared to league at the highest level, where you simply have to be able to pick up a ball which has been rolled underneath someone's foot, charge at three guys who tackle you and then roll the ball under your foot. In AFL there is a much greater chance that things can go wrong. In league, some guys don't even have the coaches permission to throw the ball 2 feet to the left or right and lets face it they don't need that skill because they have 5 tackles before any real skills need to come into play.
I quite enjoy league as a spectacle, lots of grunt, passion, hardness and patches of speed, however as far as skills required only one or two league players per team need a similar skill set to AR. This is why players from AR backgrounds such as Dally M and D Lockyer were able to play the game so well. AR has it all over league for all round skills and players are rewarded for taking risks and going for the hardest option, which i admit can look bad at times. In League, however the safest option is usually the preferred choice and only certain players are allowed to take these risks unless things are getting desperate.

Well now, you cant say that first line is not the most biased of opinions. Ruckmen? Their role could be described in similar fashion as to what you've described RL forwards. What about ruckrovers/rovers/ the other "followers"?

"Followers is a term given to a group of playing positions in the game of Australian rules football - a ruckman, ruck rover, and rover.

These three players are known as followers because they have traditionally been used as players that follow the ball all around the ground, as opposed to playing in a set position. In recent years, there has been a decreased emphasis on set positions in Australian football. Followers still cover more ground than any other player on the field"

A good one's main requirement is to be able to go hard at the ball.

Seriously pies i expect more of you being a sports fan and all...

A pathetic post from our newly appointed moderator

[Swans4ever]

So what you are saying is that channel 7mate is like your default station. Do your wife and kids love AFL? Do they watch it behind your back? Very strange that you flicked the TV on and it was on 7mate. I think this must be an AFL conspiracy to destroy your reputation. Quick put your tin hat back on they are reading your mind again.

no one watches that crap up here
& you know it
now back from the attempted deflection

why are VFL players so skilless ?

I would have thought that the skill set required to play AR would be one of the most all round sets in world sport and therefore one of the hardest to master, in all of its aspects. Compared to league at the highest level, where you simply have to be able to pick up a ball which has been rolled underneath someone's foot, charge at three guys who tackle you and then roll the ball under your foot. In AFL there is a much greater chance that things can go wrong. In league, some guys don't even have the coaches permission to throw the ball 2 feet to the left or right and lets face it they don't need that skill because they have 5 tackles before any real skills need to come into play.
I quite enjoy league as a spectacle, lots of grunt, passion, hardness and patches of speed, however as far as skills required only one or two league players per team need a similar skill set to AR. This is why players from AR backgrounds such as Dally M and D Lockyer were able to play the game so well. AR has it all over league for all round skills and players are rewarded for taking risks and going for the hardest option, which i admit can look bad at times. In League, however the safest option is usually the preferred choice and only certain players are allowed to take these risks unless things are getting desperate.

Well now, you cant say that first line is not the most biased of opinions. Ruckmen? Their role could be described in similar fashion as to what you've described RL forwards. What about ruckrovers/rovers/ the other "followers"?

"Followers is a term given to a group of playing positions in the game of Australian rules football - a ruckman, ruck rover, and rover.

These three players are known as followers because they have traditionally been used as players that follow the ball all around the ground, as opposed to playing in a set position. In recent years, there has been a decreased emphasis on set positions in Australian football. Followers still cover more ground than any other player on the field"

A good one's main requirement is to be able to go hard at the ball.

Seriously pies i expect more of you being a sports fan and all...

A pathetic post from our newly appointed moderator

Ruck man now have to work centre to defence to attack - Mumford sprinted SPRINTED from CHB to FF line against Crows over 100 Meters - how can you say there not athletes with incredible skill - being a forward in RL requires two things take ball and run into other players - bend over in scrum and wait 5 seconds for a second row feed (what a waste of time at least in RU the scrum still serves a purpose!) not much skill required! Being a big bloke is not a skill set!

[piesman2011]

So what you are saying is that channel 7mate is like your default station. Do your wife and kids love AFL? Do they watch it behind your back? Very strange that you flicked the TV on and it was on 7mate. I think this must be an AFL conspiracy to destroy your reputation. Quick put your tin hat back on they are reading your mind again.

no one watches that crap up here
& you know it
now back from the attempted deflection

why are VFL players so skilless ?

I would have thought that the skill set required to play AR would be one of the most all round sets in world sport and therefore one of the hardest to master, in all of its aspects. Compared to league at the highest level, where you simply have to be able to pick up a ball which has been rolled underneath someone's foot, charge at three guys who tackle you and then roll the ball under your foot. In AFL there is a much greater chance that things can go wrong. In league, some guys don't even have the coaches permission to throw the ball 2 feet to the left or right and lets face it they don't need that skill because they have 5 tackles before any real skills need to come into play.
I quite enjoy league as a spectacle, lots of grunt, passion, hardness and patches of speed, however as far as skills required only one or two league players per team need a similar skill set to AR. This is why players from AR backgrounds such as Dally M and D Lockyer were able to play the game so well. AR has it all over league for all round skills and players are rewarded for taking risks and going for the hardest option, which i admit can look bad at times. In League, however the safest option is usually the preferred choice and only certain players are allowed to take these risks unless things are getting desperate.

Well now, you cant say that first line is not the most biased of opinions. Ruckmen? Their role could be described in similar fashion as to what you've described RL forwards. What about ruckrovers/rovers/ the other "followers"?

"Followers is a term given to a group of playing positions in the game of Australian rules football - a ruckman, ruck rover, and rover.

These three players are known as followers because they have traditionally been used as players that follow the ball all around the ground, as opposed to playing in a set position. In recent years, there has been a decreased emphasis on set positions in Australian football. Followers still cover more ground than any other player on the field"

A good one's main requirement is to be able to go hard at the ball.

Seriously pies i expect more of you being a sports fan and all...

A pathetic post from our newly appointed moderator

You seam a bit confused mate, its like you dont really understand the game of AR. Ruck men have the same skill set as all other players with one extra job to do, tap the ball to the midfielders. I'm not sure how they are the same as RL forwards (i believe that their jobs is to get the ball and run over, break though the defence and provide most of the tackling pressure the other way, but are generally not required to kick the ball like a half or full back or to convert. Feel free to correct me). AR ruckmen still have to kick, mark, kick goals, hand pass and on occasions go hard, rove or even dive on the ball, the same as other players. It has been a while since ruckmen where expected to only handpass and not go near the forward line. The midfielders generally 6-8 players now days (ruckrover and rover are terms that have not been used for 15 years at the highest level) have to cover more ground generally but they still have the same skill set as all the other players.

Your statement about midfielders " a good ones main requirement is to go hard at the ball" also shows a lack of a true understanding of the game. There are two broad categories of midfielders ( although it is more a spectrum in which most can be found within), the inside mid, who's job is to go hard and get the ball and dish it to another player called an outside mid, who generally recieved it from an inside mid and with superior speed and/or silky footy skill delivers the ball to a forward or kicks a goal. Now all of these players are also required to have the broad skill set required to play and even a silky soft outside mid is expected to go hard when there is no one else and even the worst kicking inside mid is expected to kick goals on occasions.

[Raiderdave]

the delusion

the utter delusion

we see 2-13

that's 2 successful attempts at something out of 15 tries
&

this clown still thinks fumblers are skilful
the game has objectives & there isn't a game I can think of where its players fail to achieve the basics so frequently

they have hands like feet
can't kick straight ( the above is not uncommon)

fumble with no one anywhere near them
have no balance
are quite slow in their recations
are quite weak & feeble

seriously
the VFL's players would be the last on the list of the football codes ability wise
the evidence is there for all to see

[adamj1300]

the delusion

the utter delusion

we see 2-13

that's 2 successful attempts at something out of 15 tries
&

this clown still thinks fumblers are skilful
the game has objectives & there isn't a game I can think of where its players fail to achieve the basics so frequently

they have hands like feet
can't kick straight ( the above is not uncommon)

fumble with no one anywhere near them
have no balance
are quite slow in their recations
are quite weak & feeble

seriously
the VFL's players would be the last on the list of the football codes ability wise
the evidence is there for all to see

cumming from someone who thinks leagues the greatest game in the world, ay Raiderdave,
there is no comparison in between AFL and League, league all you do is run forward, once nearly tackled throw the ball sideways 3 meters,once team A has had their 5 tackles its team B go with the ball
league is the rugby for *******,

but keep up your obsession of the aussie rules, you might win an argument one day. it keeps the AFL fans on this board amused!

[piesman2011]

the delusion

the utter delusion

we see 2-13

that's 2 successful attempts at something out of 15 tries
&

this clown still thinks fumblers are skilful
the game has objectives & there isn't a game I can think of where its players fail to achieve the basics so frequently

they have hands like feet
can't kick straight ( the above is not uncommon)

fumble with no one anywhere near them
have no balance
are quite slow in their recations
are quite weak & feeble

seriously
the VFL's players would be the last on the list of the football codes ability wise
the evidence is there for all to see

Every time a RL player gets the ball they go for a try but rarely do they succeed does that mean they fail more then AFL players? You might think that all of those behinds that were scored were due to bad skills, but they are often due to the opposition running the ball over the line, just like you would in RL to stop the opposition from getting a try, of from very difficult attempts at goal under extreme pressure. It is quite amusing when you try to talk about omething you clearly have no understanding of. Keep up the good work.

[Xman]

The closest comparison I have seen of AFL style scoring, as in kicking for goal under continuous pressure, in RL is the golden point. I watched the Storm v ?raiders finish a few weeks ago and basically both teams attempted multiple field goals under pressure the of tackle. Not only did both teams miss every shot, most from 30 metres out straight in front, the majority didnt even make the distance or were so badly shanked they would never have even scored a point in ARs.

So 2.13 in ARs compared to 0 goals 0 points in NRL.

[Raiderdave]

the delusion

the utter delusion

we see 2-13

that's 2 successful attempts at something out of 15 tries
&

this clown still thinks fumblers are skilful
the game has objectives & there isn't a game I can think of where its players fail to achieve the basics so frequently

they have hands like feet
can't kick straight ( the above is not uncommon)

fumble with no one anywhere near them
have no balance
are quite slow in their recations
are quite weak & feeble

seriously
the VFL's players would be the last on the list of the football codes ability wise
the evidence is there for all to see

there is no comparison in between AFL and League, !

yep yr right

league players have skills :_<> :_<>


2/15

what sort of failure ratio is that

[Raiderdave]

the delusion

the utter delusion

we see 2-13

that's 2 successful attempts at something out of 15 tries
&

this clown still thinks fumblers are skilful
the game has objectives & there isn't a game I can think of where its players fail to achieve the basics so frequently

they have hands like feet
can't kick straight ( the above is not uncommon)

fumble with no one anywhere near them
have no balance
are quite slow in their recations
are quite weak & feeble

seriously
the VFL's players would be the last on the list of the football codes ability wise
the evidence is there for all to see

Every time a RL player gets the ball they go for a try but rarely do they succeed does that mean they fail more then AFL players? .

so does a vfl player try to kick a goal every time he gets the ball too eh ?

even from 80m out


no


an uppercut
unleash a few on yr chin

[Swans4ever]

the delusion

the utter delusion

we see 2-13

that's 2 successful attempts at something out of 15 tries
&

this clown still thinks fumblers are skilful
the game has objectives & there isn't a game I can think of where its players fail to achieve the basics so frequently

they have hands like feet
can't kick straight ( the above is not uncommon)

fumble with no one anywhere near them
have no balance
are quite slow in their recations
are quite weak & feeble

seriously
the VFL's players would be the last on the list of the football codes ability wise
the evidence is there for all to see

Every time a RL player gets the ball they go for a try but rarely do they succeed does that mean they fail more then AFL players? .

so does a vfl player try to kick a goal every time he gets the ball too eh ?

even from 80m out


no


an uppercut
unleash a few on yr chin

RL players if they are lucky will pass(handball) the ball 10-15 meters max and only one player in a side is expected to kick maybe 20 meters (at most) on average they expected to run maybe 10 meters at a time a big distance is 100 meters, but this REARLY ever happens - an AFL is expected to hit the ball with one hand whilst holding it with the other between 5 - 15 meters on average, bounce the oval ball on the ground every 15 meters and must be prepared to defend and attack over distances of between 20-30 meters at a time, kick the ball to a target (some are able to kick with both feet!) at least 40 meters, tackle, mark the ball (not on their chest like RL but in their hands overhead) and be able to predict the play (no need to in RL the opposition always face you you don't have to be able look in 360 deg as they only ever come in one direction!). To get a major score ball MUST be kicked by foot between to posts 6.4 Meters apart (RL only has to touch a line 68 meters wide). Etc etc etc........RL does not have the skill of AF, and as for fumblers why is there so many knock on's in an average game of RL when all they have to do is pass (handball) the ball from one to the other, surely that is not as nearly as difficult as hitting a ball with your fist? Of course not....no NRL is by far not as skilful as AFL. No amount of whinging and calling someone a ********** will change these facts, no matter how they try and twist things - maybe thats why they do twist facts. They just don't want to admit what the rest of Australia and so many people around the world already know!