12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
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The onus is on you. You made the claim. Prove it.
Rugby League has a lying culture. Altering crowd figures, relying on inaccurate TV figures from regional NSW and refusing to distance itself from Leagues Clubs and obtain it's own club memberships as it relies on LC's to survive as private entities.
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Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
no its equally yours tooTopper wrote:The onus is on you. You made the claim. Prove it.
you're making a claim by questioning it
prove your claim

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No, you made the claim first and I answered it with the challenge. The onus is on you.
Rugby League has a lying culture. Altering crowd figures, relying on inaccurate TV figures from regional NSW and refusing to distance itself from Leagues Clubs and obtain it's own club memberships as it relies on LC's to survive as private entities.
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& im challenging you backTopper wrote:No, you made the claim first and I answered it with the challenge. The onus is on you.
you seem pretty certain I'm wrong
prove it

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You first. You made the initial statement, If you don't it will prove that you have nothing and you should withdraw the allegation.
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so you can't prove me wrong then ?Topper wrote:You first. You made the initial statement, If you don't it will prove that you have nothing and you should withdraw the allegation.

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You refuse to provide evidence of the accuracy of your statement.
You will provide evidence and do it in the next post. Any attempt to divert from this will be ignored.
You will provide evidence and do it in the next post. Any attempt to divert from this will be ignored.
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Re: 12,178 Foundation Members of GWS
You really have no idea what you're talking about. Whilst threre is still a healthy supporter base for the Swans and Lions in Victoria, it is nothing compared to what the numbers there were when the clubs were local. It amazes me the Swans/Lions have been able to hang on to as many supporters as they have in Victoria. It's something GWS will not have the luxury of. The fact you don't understand any of this does not surprise me.enarelle wrote:Topper with regards to the Swans given their South Melbourne history wouldn't you think that a reasonable proportion of their members would be Victorians? Given that how many of their membership might be from Victoria? Similar questions would apply to the Lions given their Fitzroy background.
Additionally aren't people from the AFL states who now live in Sydney/Brisbane the most likely to join a local AFL team?
Given Victorian AFL fans are meant to be so passionate about their teams is it a surprise that they would continue membership even when the team relocates.

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Precisely.
Rugby League has a lying culture. Altering crowd figures, relying on inaccurate TV figures from regional NSW and refusing to distance itself from Leagues Clubs and obtain it's own club memberships as it relies on LC's to survive as private entities.
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so do youTopper wrote:You refuse to provide evidence of the accuracy of your statement.
You will provide evidence and do it in the next post. Any attempt to divert from this will be ignored.
I win....

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As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
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Topper wrote:As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
who says that a negative .... ?

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As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
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Topper wrote:As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
oh so when you claimed
" News Ltd has a majority on the NRL board "
or
" even the ARL reps on the NRL board have News Ltd allegiances "
you're able to prove this ?
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
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VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
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RL SOO I 4.068 Million
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As I have explained, no human being can prove a negative which is what you are asking me to do. You claimed that the majority of supporters at games were expat Victorians. I challenged you on this by stating this is not true. It is up to you to prove your claim, otherwise you lose. This is your last chance.
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