2017 - NRL - Rugby League TV Ratings

[pussycat]

You've been wrong about AFL financials for years. Just fuck off already.

The comment was in reply to a thread about the uncertainties that lye ahead. It was a negative NRL article but I suppose that's alright.

How so?

AFL lied about how much was in the future.

according to one article. And ill take an annual report over single article any day of the week.

AFL profit has been less than ours in recent.

The AFL is a non profit organisation so who gives a shit.

Our revenue has increased more over the past four years than yours has over the past five.

While still trailing the AFL by 180 million a year in revenue. And not getting closer in recent years. Something you constantly ignore.

Or is it the $80m in hand outs the AFL has to give to its clubs each year that you objet to.

The AFLs money comes from the clubs and players. Frankly dont give a shit about the handouts - particulartly when most of it isnt actually a handout and this remark alone shows your fucking ignorance of AFL finances.

The fund was shutdown soon after, does sound suspicious. From an organization with a somewhat dubious reputation.

The AFL may be a not for profit organisation but they have bills and expenses like any other business.

They are trailing the AFL in revenue, thank to a 15 year Superleague war. The gap is closer know in both broadcast and non broadcast revenue.

The payments listed in different categories: grants/ prize money/ other/. ' Other' seems to get larger every year. the papers all seem to refer to it as handouts. So if its not club hand outs then what is it?

The papers also talk about huge bank loans the clubs have taken out with the AFL going guarantor on.

[Fred]

You sure non tv revenue is similar ??? Membership and gate revenue would have to be much lower for nrl?

[AFLcrap1]

the annual report hasnt been released floggo
but their last years annual report was reported as a profit only to be found they had borrowred money!
the year before, or the one before that, they reported a profit only to hve the size of the profit downgraded
after an accounting firm noticed some fudging of the numbers


this bank loan thing, ask your fellow oxygen bottle mate! he is the dweeb that keeps bring up the AFL loan up & financials! its only fair that it gets knock back with the NRLOL financial situation

Self own age at its best


You state that the NRL has fudged the books THIS YEAR ..

Then when asked for proof you say this years report hasn't been released .

Lay off the metho

But but but....

Lol trying to Change the goal posts! Decades of fudging

When was the lastest nrlol report released?
Their figures that they went to the bank when going for a loan would have been fudged as well!
They have sponsorship few worth millions and hundreds of millions in revenue, but a credit line of Alan bond or Christopher skase

So no proof of fudging this year as claimed
No proof the loan was knocked back due to fudging .

Link the liar strikes again .
You post shit
When caught..quite often
You go on a rant to deflect .
Lol
How predictable .

[pussycat]

You sure non tv revenue is similar ??? Membership and gate revenue would have to be much lower for nrl?

Are you quoting me Fred? if so stop putting words in my mouth. and try to get it right.

[pussycat]

The fund was shutdown soon after, does sound suspicious. From an organization with a somewhat dubious reputation.

lol no it wasnt. The AFL future fund is still listed in the Annual Reports as of last year.

The AFL may be a not for profit organisation but they have bills and expenses like any other business.

Sure they do. But they more the AFL makes the more they distribute which is why profits arent necessarily profits - and before distributions the AFL makes a shit load more in profit than the NRL.

AFL operating surplus 2016 - $331 million. NRL operating surplus - 186 million.

They are trailing the AFL in revenue, thank to a 15 year Superleague war. The gap is closer know in both broadcast and non broadcast revenue.

Trailing before Superleague too, but hey whatever floats your boat.

The payments listed in different categories: grants/ prize money/ other/. ' Other' seems to get larger every year. the papers all seem to refer to it as handouts. So if its not club hand outs then what is it?

How about you fucking read what i apparently have to tell you every goddamn year. Other includes signage and pourage rights at Etihad and the MCG. Pronotional subisidies for games taken to the NT and northern qld. It includes AFL membership disbursements back to the clubs. Still other payments also include compensation for the AFLs manipulation of the fixture and forcing clubs to use venues they dont want to.

And then yes, some of it is bail out money. No different to what the NRL has done by taking over Newcastle or Gold Coast or whatever the fuck it is doing at Wests and St George.

The papers also talk about huge bank loans the clubs have taken out with the AFL going guarantor on.

The papers arent wrong. The largest loan is for about 8 million. Debt is not a bad thing though, as long as its serviceable.

The article in the (Australian ????) appeared a few years back.

AFL do distribute plenty. Club handouts especially.

The contract Kerry Packer signed with the ARL in the early 90's was the largest ever in Australian sport.
Even the report commissioned by the AFL/VFL in back half of the 80's made it clear they were on the brink .

The News papers also refer to it as hand out that's because that is what they are!. Neither the Gold Coast, Lions, Suns play at the Edihad or MCG. All have limited membership. Yet they get more than most.

[NlolRL]

The article in the (Australian ????) appeared a few years back.

AFL do distribute plenty. Club handouts especially.

The contract Kerry Packer signed with the ARL in the early 90's was the largest ever in Australian sport.
Even the report commissioned by the AFL/VFL in back half of the 80's made it clear they were on the brink .

The News papers also refer to it as hand out that's because that is what they are!. Neither the Gold Coast, Lions, Suns play at the Edihad or MCG. All have limited membership. Yet they get more than most.

Actually, those 2 clubs play in Melbourne so they must play at either Etihad or the MCG. In fact the lions have many members in Melbourne. AFL members, who nominate one of these 2 clubs pay their membership fees to the AFL, who then distribute it to the appropriate club. Yes these 2 clubs get more distributions than others, but so what? The AFL earn enough to support expansion clubs who require assistance. It'd be pretty short-sighted if they just let them dissolve. Keeping them going is beneficial to the local grass roots game, so the money is well spent in the end

You really dont understand what a non-for-profit organisation does. They allow for a certain revenue each year and basically spend all of it, other than maybe a small proportion they save for a rainy day. If costs are higher in one year they make a loss, if not they make a profit. There's no point keeping money to themselves, theyre far better off pumping the money into expansion and development, which will expand the game and eventually bring more revenue

[pussycat]

The article in the (Australian ????) appeared a few years back.

They AFL do distribute plenty. Club handouts especially

The clubs earn it.

The contract Kerry Packer signed with the ARL in the early 90's was the largest ever in Australian sport. So I would be so quick to claim that.

A classic case of calling it before the AFL signed its deal - and to be repeated later on by Gallop in the early 2000's. lol.

In 1993 they signed a deal worth 80 million over 7 years (11.42 million per year)

From 1993 to 1998, the AFL made 17 million per year from 7, and in 1999, the AFL made 40 million from 7. The AFL received 102 million in its first 6 years from Seven, to the 80 million from Nine for league over 7 years

The Super league war began In 94.' So if the AFL signed a contract later in 91'than perhaps the AFL were the ones catching up. Especially in light of the fact that the report commissioned by the AFL/VFL in the 80's told them in no uncertain terms they were in deep shit financially.

[leagueiscrap]

Self own age at its best


You state that the NRL has fudged the books THIS YEAR ..

Then when asked for proof you say this years report hasn't been released .

Lay off the metho

But but but....

Lol trying to Change the goal posts! Decades of fudging

When was the lastest nrlol report released?
Their figures that they went to the bank when going for a loan would have been fudged as well!
They have sponsorship few worth millions and hundreds of millions in revenue, but a credit line of Alan bond or Christopher skase

So no proof of fudging this year as claimed
No proof the loan was knocked back due to fudging .

Link the liar strikes again .
You post shit
When caught..quite often
You go on a rant to deflect .
Lol
How predictable .

the loans application was knocked back crapper
youd think with contracts in place and a business turning over hundards of millions of dollars could get a loan!
the bank manager said

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[pussycat]

The article in the (Australian ????) appeared a few years back.

AFL do distribute plenty. Club handouts especially.

The contract Kerry Packer signed with the ARL in the early 90's was the largest ever in Australian sport.
Even the report commissioned by the AFL/VFL in back half of the 80's made it clear they were on the brink .

The News papers also refer to it as hand out that's because that is what they are!. Neither the Gold Coast, Lions, Suns play at the Edihad or MCG. All have limited membership. Yet they get more than most.

Actually, those 2 clubs play in Melbourne so they must play at either Etihad or the MCG. In fact the lions have many members in Melbourne. AFL members, who nominate one of these 2 clubs pay their membership fees to the AFL, who then distribute it to the appropriate club. Yes these 2 clubs get more distributions than others, but so what? The AFL earn enough to support expansion clubs who require assistance. It'd be pretty short-sighted if they just let them dissolve. Keeping them going is beneficial to the local grass roots game, so the money is well spent in the end

You really dont understand what a non-for-profit organisation does. They allow for a certain revenue each year and basically spend all of it, other than maybe a small proportion they save for a rainy day. If costs are higher in one year they make a loss, if not they make a profit. There's no point keeping money to themselves, theyre far better off pumping the money into expansion and development, which will expand the game and eventually bring more revenue

LOL , fark ...Taxes or no taxes its a farking business and needs to make money like all the rest.

[NlolRL]

LOL , fark ...Taxes or no taxes its a farking business and needs to make money like all the rest.

They make money, it's called revenue. What they dont need to make is a profit. Thats why everything they earn they spend. The fact we play out of state of the art stadiums and will own one worth 1 billion shortly is the direct result of spending what we earn for the benefit of the game

[pussycat]

LOL , fark ...Taxes or no taxes its a farking business and needs to make money like all the rest.

They make money, it's called revenue. What they dont need to make is a profit. Thats why everything they earn they spend. The fact we play out of state of the art stadiums and will own one worth 1 billion shortly is the direct result of spending what we earn for the benefit of the game

Business(any) - profit = fucked

[AFLcrap1]

But but but....

Lol trying to Change the goal posts! Decades of fudging

When was the lastest nrlol report released?
Their figures that they went to the bank when going for a loan would have been fudged as well!
They have sponsorship few worth millions and hundreds of millions in revenue, but a credit line of Alan bond or Christopher skase

So no proof of fudging this year as claimed
No proof the loan was knocked back due to fudging .

Link the liar strikes again .
You post shit
When caught..quite often
You go on a rant to deflect .
Lol
How predictable .

the loans application was knocked back crapper
youd think with contracts in place and a business turning over hundards of millions of dollars could get a loan!
the bank manager said
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Why can't you post proof of this statement you made


Fudge fudge fudge, that's why your code was knocked back for a basic bank loan


Where is some proof
I've asked over & over in two different threads & all you do is deflect .


Last chance link the liar
Put up or shut up


Or fuck off clogging up threads with your lies .


See the BOLDED bit Fred .
That's what link is ignoring .
He won't touch that .....because it's 100% made up bullshit . .
If a source is posted ...then that will be the end of it .

good luck finding one .

[Fred]

I try not to get involved but wasn't there a news article or something on this loan stuff ? I'll do a google search I guess but thought this was in the news?

[Fred]

SO, the cash-strapped NRL has been knocked back for a $30 million bank loan. The fact we even need one is outrageous. The fact we’ve been rejected is surely enough for commission chairman John Grant to stand down. Not next month, not next week. Now.

[leagueiscrap]

I try not to get involved but wasn't there a news article or something on this loan stuff ? I'll do a google search I guess but thought this was in the news?

There has been a few different articles about the nrl being knocked back! Crapper jumps ups and down and demands proof! So you post it, he cries lies in fits of denial then finds something else that has been posted in the the paragraph the deflects on to that! This is why every thread ends up in constant dribble.