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[quote="post_hoc"]Going to be even worse for GWS when the Wanderers move into the stadium and make their averages look dismal, god I hope we get there crowd counter as well, we are going to average 43,000 at the stadium (yes i know it only holds 24,000)

oh yes Wanderers are even younger than GWS so you really cant use the 5 year old excuse with us. Oh but I guess the difference is we know what success looks like. You guys win a game at it's like you won a final
Post the difference is the Wanderers have earned there success through hard work and graft. The Wanderers in a period of 3-4 years have clearly been embraced by those that love the world game in Western Sydney.

GWS have been given the best young AFL players all over the country and basically have still failed to make a mark.. :wink: :lol:
So the Wanderers earned their success eh?

Turn it up, I know Sydney FC fans who will tell you the Wanderers were set up and owned by the FFA with the express intention of being very successful on field from the get go, in order to increase the $$$ value team could be flogged off for a few seasons later.

They were given best talent available all paid for by the league. No years of struggle whilst developing talent like GWS had to endure.
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When you see WSW crowds when they're not doing so well, you can understand why the A-league was so desperate to create instant success. Will end up like Melbourne Storm I suspect. Instant success however hardly embraced by the wider community, even decades later.

Again earned success? You're hilarious :(/
Just about everything you said there is a load of bullcrap.

Post Hoc you mind explaining the first 3 months of the WSW existence and where the foundation club players came from? What leg ups did the Wanderers get from the FFA?

I dont pretend to know everything on WSW like Bea, who thinks he knows it all about the WSW but has no clue as you can see from his reply..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Btw nice try Bea, you come on here once every 6 months and still manage to know fuck all about your subject matter, Best to just stay quite if you dont know the subject matter champ lol
Sorry I have been away eels, been licking my wounds after the grandfinal loss. LOL

You are 100% correct, I find it hilarious the claim by beaussie that the Wanderers were set up to succeed.

I would suggest beaussie watches this little doco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwJS6l7treI

The Wanderers were not started until 17 May 2012 when Gorman (now head of the Sharks) was appointed CEO and Popa was named as the coach. No players were signed no name, no ground no colours.

That didn't come along until the end of June, 25 June when the name the Wanderers was announced with logo, ground and colours. And 3 players were signed. (Season starts in October)

So with 12 weeks to the start of the season the club at 3 players (club should have 23) most of the domestic players were contracted to the existing clubs, the wanderers were basically made up of players the other teams had rejected, their contracts had expired or they were released.

So to even think they were set up to win by the FFA was just plain stupid. They went even further and actually became the first Australian team to win the Asian Champions league with close to that same squad. Champion team versus team of champions etc

So eelsofwest was 100% correct in his earlier statements
Commiserations on the final loss Post Hoc, What the WSW have achieved in such a short time is amazing, you should be proud.

:cheers: :cheers:

Like i thought the WSW have earned there spot in Western Sydney, the GWS Giants have been given every advantage possible to try and make them successful but to no avail.

How any sports fan can follow the AFL in sydney knowing that the competition is rigged is beyond me. :wink: =D>
Yet despite your and other equally ignorant and deluded fools they do and now have 12500 members and an average over 10k crowds looks to me like it's working!
Is that the western Sydney membership only or does it include Canberra?
Everywhere, clubs don't differentiate - and before you say the obvious, ALL clubs have supporters in other areas and not just their home base. It's due to the nature of modern society where people don't live in their traditional areas.
Sorry but we (as in Wanderers) measure our members in season ticket holders, so the 'supporters in other areas' is not really justified for us. and it is important in this discussion, as we were talking about Western Sydney
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I'm not wrong, I know I am right. We had to cap our membership because of Stadium size (if we didn't seperate season tickets from members then we wouldn't have to do that) as it stands we have a waiting list of 2-3 k waiting for membership
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post_hoc wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
post_hoc wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
post_hoc wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
post_hoc wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
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[quote="eelofwest"][quote="post_hoc"]Going to be even worse for GWS when the Wanderers move into the stadium and make their averages look dismal, god I hope we get there crowd counter as well, we are going to average 43,000 at the stadium (yes i know it only holds 24,000)

oh yes Wanderers are even younger than GWS so you really cant use the 5 year old excuse with us. Oh but I guess the difference is we know what success looks like. You guys win a game at it's like you won a final
Post the difference is the Wanderers have earned there success through hard work and graft. The Wanderers in a period of 3-4 years have clearly been embraced by those that love the world game in Western Sydney.

GWS have been given the best young AFL players all over the country and basically have still failed to make a mark.. :wink: :lol:
So the Wanderers earned their success eh?

Turn it up, I know Sydney FC fans who will tell you the Wanderers were set up and owned by the FFA with the express intention of being very successful on field from the get go, in order to increase the $$$ value team could be flogged off for a few seasons later.

They were given best talent available all paid for by the league. No years of struggle whilst developing talent like GWS had to endure.
#-o

When you see WSW crowds when they're not doing so well, you can understand why the A-league was so desperate to create instant success. Will end up like Melbourne Storm I suspect. Instant success however hardly embraced by the wider community, even decades later.

Again earned success? You're hilarious :(/
Just about everything you said there is a load of bullcrap.

Post Hoc you mind explaining the first 3 months of the WSW existence and where the foundation club players came from? What leg ups did the Wanderers get from the FFA?

I dont pretend to know everything on WSW like Bea, who thinks he knows it all about the WSW but has no clue as you can see from his reply..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Btw nice try Bea, you come on here once every 6 months and still manage to know fuck all about your subject matter, Best to just stay quite if you dont know the subject matter champ lol
Sorry I have been away eels, been licking my wounds after the grandfinal loss. LOL

You are 100% correct, I find it hilarious the claim by beaussie that the Wanderers were set up to succeed.

I would suggest beaussie watches this little doco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwJS6l7treI

The Wanderers were not started until 17 May 2012 when Gorman (now head of the Sharks) was appointed CEO and Popa was named as the coach. No players were signed no name, no ground no colours.

That didn't come along until the end of June, 25 June when the name the Wanderers was announced with logo, ground and colours. And 3 players were signed. (Season starts in October)

So with 12 weeks to the start of the season the club at 3 players (club should have 23) most of the domestic players were contracted to the existing clubs, the wanderers were basically made up of players the other teams had rejected, their contracts had expired or they were released.

So to even think they were set up to win by the FFA was just plain stupid. They went even further and actually became the first Australian team to win the Asian Champions league with close to that same squad. Champion team versus team of champions etc

So eelsofwest was 100% correct in his earlier statements
Commiserations on the final loss Post Hoc, What the WSW have achieved in such a short time is amazing, you should be proud.

:cheers: :cheers:

Like i thought the WSW have earned there spot in Western Sydney, the GWS Giants have been given every advantage possible to try and make them successful but to no avail.

How any sports fan can follow the AFL in sydney knowing that the competition is rigged is beyond me. :wink: =D>
Yet despite your and other equally ignorant and deluded fools they do and now have 12500 members and an average over 10k crowds looks to me like it's working!
Is that the western Sydney membership only or does it include Canberra?
Everywhere, clubs don't differentiate - and before you say the obvious, ALL clubs have supporters in other areas and not just their home base. It's due to the nature of modern society where people don't live in their traditional areas.
Sorry but we (as in Wanderers) measure our members in season ticket holders, so the 'supporters in other areas' is not really justified for us. and it is important in this discussion, as we were talking about Western Sydney
I think you'll find your wrong all codes do pretty much the same.[/quote]

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I'm not wrong, I know I am right. We had to cap our membership because of Stadium size (if we didn't seperate season tickets from members then we wouldn't have to do that) as it stands we have a waiting list of 2-3 k waiting for membership[/quote]

Look I'm happy to stand corrected but it's a well established method to get greater interest in your club - I.e. If you have 16,000 members it's not much to take to a sponsor as opposed to 52,000. A sponsor doesn't care if they are all season ticket holders only how many are committed enough to put their hand in their pocket.
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I think I prefer our way.
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I think I prefer our way.
So only if your a season ticket holder can you regard yourself as a fan of the club??? Seriously soccer has some strange ideas - but what do you expect from an organisation that has as much rampant corruption in it!
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Swans4ever wrote:
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I think I prefer our way.
So only if your a season ticket holder can you regard yourself as a fan of the club??? Seriously soccer has some strange ideas - but what do you expect from an organisation that has as much rampant corruption in it!
wow, what a stupid non-sequitur link, mind boggling stupidity. I was trying to engage in a level of discourse I thought you might be up to, clearly I misread my opponent.

by the way, how the hell do you get 'only a season ticket holder can be regarded a fan" from my comment that we only count members as being season ticket holders. If this is the bar you set, no wonder AFL teams have so many 'members' it appears you only have to claim to be a fan to be counted as a member.
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post_hoc wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
post_hoc wrote:
I think I prefer our way.
So only if your a season ticket holder can you regard yourself as a fan of the club??? Seriously soccer has some strange ideas - but what do you expect from an organisation that has as much rampant corruption in it!
wow, what a stupid non-sequitur link, mind boggling stupidity. I was trying to engage in a level of discourse I thought you might be up to, clearly I misread my opponent.

by the way, how the hell do you get 'only a season ticket holder can be regarded a fan" from my comment that we only count members as being season ticket holders. If this is the bar you set, no wonder AFL teams have so many 'members' it appears you only have to claim to be a fan to be counted as a member.
No the statement isn't stupid - you criticised AFL/NRL for their memberships on the basis that those numbers aren't season ticket holders and I am prepared to concede that point. However to say other memberships don't count because their not season ticket holders isn't acknowledging the fact that they are still prepared to buy a membership. I made the comment about corruption because it's this same thinking process which accepts their sport bring rotten at the head. Why does that offend you so greatly when the statement is correct, it's not like a secrete or anything?
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Poor GWS, having to deal with not only Parra being resurgent in the west, but their get out clause looks to be fucked too with the Raiders coming out of their post Super League slumber (finally) :(/ :(/ :(/

Good luck.
GWS in the top 8 and the first of their Sydney home games start this coming week with a blockbuster vs Hawthorn at Spotless Stadium. Ticket sales looking good thus far on Ticketmaster website.

GWS membership numbers also on track to break record and in Canberra I dare say they are doing better than the Raiders crowd wise.

Poor GWS eh Parra? :?>
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Still want to compare Canberra crowds .
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GWS about to break 13,000 membership for the 1st time - hahaha yeah this thread a fail!
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/ol...0a674c9d6f95ac


THE high-flying GWS Giants are still struggling to draw interest from casual sports fans in Sydney. Last Saturday the Manly v Eastwood Shute Shield game on 7Two out-rated the GWS v Geelong AFL game on 7mate. The AFL game was also broadcast on Fox Footy, but it’s still not a great look.

:(/ :(/ :(/ :(/
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/ol...0a674c9d6f95ac


THE high-flying GWS Giants are still struggling to draw interest from casual sports fans in Sydney. Last Saturday the Manly v Eastwood Shute Shield game on 7Two out-rated the GWS v Geelong AFL game on 7mate. The AFL game was also broadcast on Fox Footy, but it’s still not a great look.

:(/ :(/ :(/ :(/
First your link gives page not found. :^o Secondly, even if the article exists, it's incorrect.

As you would say eh Crapper, typical News Ltd lies ay. #-o
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Link does exist


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/olymp ... 4c9d6f95ac


Right down the bottom .

& yes it's news ltd so it's more than likely wrong .
Still 40 k is terrible .
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AFLcrap1 wrote:
Link does exist


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/olymp ... 4c9d6f95ac


Right down the bottom .

& yes it's news ltd so it's more than likely wrong .
Wow, he still wont admit it's wrong. Just "more than likely wrong" despite being shown the actual ratings and evidence to the contrary. ](*,)

Thanks for the link in any case. Amazed you used such a BS article considering who wrote it:

Rebecca Wilson, Dean Ritchie, Christian Nicolussi
The Daily Telegraph

You despise Rebecca and Dean don't you? Aren't you always telling us how full of shit both of them are? Oh and let's not even look at what publication it was shall we. Pick up your game son. #-o
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Never looked at who wrote it .
It come up under Herald sun ..
See the link I posted


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AFLcrap1 wrote:
Never looked at who wrote it .
It come up under Herald sun ..
See the link I posted
Yes I see the link. News Ltd right?

Just admit it, you and them are wrong again. :^o :^o :^o
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What the fuck is wrong with you
I posted a Herald sun link
You tried to claim it was the terror graph

Lol
So now you rant about something else .
I said it was probably wrong being a news ltd article .
They aren't known for their accuracy or being bastions of the truth .
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