Has AFL Become Boring?

[Raiderdave]

Yeah 39k Swans Supporters and 12k GWS supporters say hi!!!!

the Australian defence forces say


they've never heard of you >
.. you lying *****

[leagueiscrap]

become boring ? >

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it was always a pile of puke

but yes
in recent years it has gotten a lot worse
beyond bad
it is as woeful as its ever been
no wonder crowds are 5000 a game down on a few years ago

failing expansion teams
tanking
boring negative play
some sides getting advantages to be competitive
financial basket cases everywhere
useless teams simply not able to compete

wow
the VFL is up vomit creek without a paddle eh folks

hey dribble dick dave worry about your own problems first, before making assumptions you clearly have no idea about!

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[Swans4ever]

Yeah 39k Swans Supporters and 12k GWS supporters say hi!!!!

the Australian defence forces say


they've never heard of you >
.. you lying *****

Hahaha really - your a fuckin stalker - you reading this Wookie me thinks that RD needs a spell for trying to find out info on me!

[AFLcrap1]

Yeah 39k Swans Supporters and 12k GWS supporters say hi!!!!

the Australian defence forces say


they've never heard of you >
.. you lying *****

Hahaha really - your a fuckin stalker - you reading this Wookie me thinks that RD needs a spell for trying to find out info on me!

[Swans4ever]

become boring ? >

:_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
it was always a pile of puke

but yes
in recent years it has gotten a lot worse
beyond bad
it is as woeful as its ever been
no wonder crowds are 5000 a game down on a few years ago

failing expansion teams
tanking
boring negative play
some sides getting advantages to be competitive
financial basket cases everywhere
useless teams simply not able to compete

wow
the VFL is up vomit creek without a paddle eh folks

So are you saying you do watch AFL RD ???? You must be the biggest hypocrite on this site!! Still gets the most crowds week in week out - that's a fact!

[scottmv1]

As a huge supported of both the SANFL and VFL/AFL from the early eighties when I was a young teen I have definitely seen the game become more boring especially from the early 2000's. In my opinion this is for several reasons:
1. In Melbourne with the exception of Geelong no other team has a true home ground anymore where the visiting players and supporters knew they were in for potentially a long afternoon. But with that said the variety of different suburb grounds and the closed in up close action added character to the game.
2. Most teams now with the exception of a couple of excellent players such as Buddy appear to be teams of clones type players. Because the players brought into the modern game have to be able to play the game at a very fast pace we no longer see the likes of class players like Doug Hawkins, Greg Williams, Andrew Jarmen, Bradley and many many others who in their time most likely due to the slightly slower pace of the game had the time to show off their class with the football in their hands which again added character to the game because. Players these days just don't have the time because they have to dispose the ball as soon as they get it which personally I find quite boring to watch. Again there are a couple of exceptions with the sheer class of Sam Mitchell and a couple of others.
3. We no longer have the full forward battles when keeping an eye on the weekly goal kicking table to see how many goals Dunstall, Ablett Snr or Lockett etc. kicked again added character to the game. Full forwards these days would probably have barely made it into the reserves sides back then.
4. The fact that the Gold Coast and GWS were gifted sides full of top draft picks to ensure their success is a joke. At the same time this has put the lower sides in the completion into a position where it will likely take them much longer to be able to rebuild their sides and get themselves up the ladder. How on Earth Tasmania was overlooked given some of the class players who have come from Tassie and given its actually a true AFL state was a complete joke and the final straw for me with my love of the game.
5. There are a few other reasons but I won't bore you guy's any further with my soapbox on today's game which use to be brilliant -pre (DEM).

[King-Eliagh]

As a huge supported of both the SANFL and VFL/AFL from the early eighties when I was a young teen I have definitely seen the game become more boring especially from the early 2000's. In my opinion this is for several reasons:
1. In Melbourne with the exception of Geelong no other team has a true home ground anymore where the visiting players and supporters knew they were in for potentially a long afternoon. But with that said the variety of different suburb grounds and the closed in up close action added character to the game.
2. Most teams now with the exception of a couple of excellent players such as Buddy appear to be teams of clones type players. Because the players brought into the modern game have to be able to play the game at a very fast pace we no longer see the likes of class players like Doug Hawkins, Greg Williams, Andrew Jarmen, Bradley and many many others who in their time most likely due to the slightly slower pace of the game had the time to show off their class with the football in their hands which again added character to the game because. Players these days just don't have the time because they have to dispose the ball as soon as they get it which personally I find quite boring to watch. Again there are a couple of exceptions with the sheer class of Sam Mitchell and a couple of others.
3. We no longer have the full forward battles when keeping an eye on the weekly goal kicking table to see how many goals Dunstall, Ablett Snr or Lockett etc. kicked again added character to the game. Full forwards these days would probably have barely made it into the reserves sides back then.
4. The fact that the Gold Coast and GWS were gifted sides full of top draft picks to ensure their success is a joke. At the same time this has put the lower sides in the completion into a position where it will likely take them much longer to be able to rebuild their sides and get themselves up the ladder. How on Earth Tasmania was overlooked given some of the class players who have come from Tassie and given its actually a true AFL state was a complete joke and the final straw for me with my love of the game.
5. There are a few other reasons but I won't bore you guy's any further with my soapbox on today's game which use to be brilliant -pre (DEM).

=D>

Finally an AFL fan who's honest. Thanks Scott and very well said. The points you make have synergy with the worrying remarks in the op that the people running the game have no clue about the game itself.

I'd also add that if the AFL hadve put the buckets of money into darwin rather than their gc and gws they'd have made the comp more interesting and less uncompetitive. It's been fairly screwed for years now, just basketcases a plenty at the bottom of the table and all because the AFL thoufht they were bigger than they are and tried to grow in areas which were so far from heartlands with the self defeating submissive strategy of poaching league players

Woeful stuff.

[Swans4ever]

As a huge supported of both the SANFL and VFL/AFL from the early eighties when I was a young teen I have definitely seen the game become more boring especially from the early 2000's. In my opinion this is for several reasons:
1. In Melbourne with the exception of Geelong no other team has a true home ground anymore where the visiting players and supporters knew they were in for potentially a long afternoon. But with that said the variety of different suburb grounds and the closed in up close action added character to the game.
2. Most teams now with the exception of a couple of excellent players such as Buddy appear to be teams of clones type players. Because the players brought into the modern game have to be able to play the game at a very fast pace we no longer see the likes of class players like Doug Hawkins, Greg Williams, Andrew Jarmen, Bradley and many many others who in their time most likely due to the slightly slower pace of the game had the time to show off their class with the football in their hands which again added character to the game because. Players these days just don't have the time because they have to dispose the ball as soon as they get it which personally I find quite boring to watch. Again there are a couple of exceptions with the sheer class of Sam Mitchell and a couple of others.
3. We no longer have the full forward battles when keeping an eye on the weekly goal kicking table to see how many goals Dunstall, Ablett Snr or Lockett etc. kicked again added character to the game. Full forwards these days would probably have barely made it into the reserves sides back then.
4. The fact that the Gold Coast and GWS were gifted sides full of top draft picks to ensure their success is a joke. At the same time this has put the lower sides in the completion into a position where it will likely take them much longer to be able to rebuild their sides and get themselves up the ladder. How on Earth Tasmania was overlooked given some of the class players who have come from Tassie and given its actually a true AFL state was a complete joke and the final straw for me with my love of the game.
5. There are a few other reasons but I won't bore you guy's any further with my soapbox on today's game which use to be brilliant -pre (DEM).

Welcome to professional sport Scottie - players are professional, they have elite training regimes, they are fitter and there is a lot more interchange - although I really agree with KB - I think get rid of sub and cut bench back to 3 players, limit rotations to 60 per match (15) per qtr - players won't be able to effect forward presses and flooding back as much - forwards may start playing closer to goal to conserve their energy as your key position players will have to spend longer on the ground.
The problems you highlight with GWS and GC are starting to abate - Tassy was overlooked because it simply doesn't have the population and they already play footy - GWS and GC didn't and you have to expand or you go backwards.
In relation to rebuilding a lot of it has to do with sides who make the wrong decisions with recruiting - St.Kilda has made a Great Leap Forward, Brisbane, Adelaide etc etc I think the comp is coming out of flux - if one thing Geelong and Hawthorne has taught the rest of the Comp is you don't have to go down the ladder, good recruiting and getting the right players you can still be a force.
Just my opinion.

[docker24]

As a huge supported of both the SANFL and VFL/AFL from the early eighties when I was a young teen I have definitely seen the game become more boring especially from the early 2000's. In my opinion this is for several reasons:
1. In Melbourne with the exception of Geelong no other team has a true home ground anymore where the visiting players and supporters knew they were in for potentially a long afternoon. But with that said the variety of different suburb grounds and the closed in up close action added character to the game.
2. Most teams now with the exception of a couple of excellent players such as Buddy appear to be teams of clones type players. Because the players brought into the modern game have to be able to play the game at a very fast pace we no longer see the likes of class players like Doug Hawkins, Greg Williams, Andrew Jarmen, Bradley and many many others who in their time most likely due to the slightly slower pace of the game had the time to show off their class with the football in their hands which again added character to the game because. Players these days just don't have the time because they have to dispose the ball as soon as they get it which personally I find quite boring to watch. Again there are a couple of exceptions with the sheer class of Sam Mitchell and a couple of others.
3. We no longer have the full forward battles when keeping an eye on the weekly goal kicking table to see how many goals Dunstall, Ablett Snr or Lockett etc. kicked again added character to the game. Full forwards these days would probably have barely made it into the reserves sides back then.
4. The fact that the Gold Coast and GWS were gifted sides full of top draft picks to ensure their success is a joke. At the same time this has put the lower sides in the completion into a position where it will likely take them much longer to be able to rebuild their sides and get themselves up the ladder. How on Earth Tasmania was overlooked given some of the class players who have come from Tassie and given its actually a true AFL state was a complete joke and the final straw for me with my love of the game.
5. There are a few other reasons but I won't bore you guy's any further with my soapbox on today's game which use to be brilliant -pre (DEM).

An unnecessary bump is unnecessary.

[pussycat]

This article is older than i am

Thats a relief, your only a couple of months old! I was starting to think there was something seriously wrong with you.

[AFLsforPussies]

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Fan debate: has the AFL become boring?

CAMERON TOMARCHIO
news.com.au
April 10, 2014 12:20PM

THERE is growing concern that the AFL product is in decline.

That constant tinkering of the rules has slowly ruined the spectacle.

Is the AFL getting boring or is the great game as strong as ever? Leave your comments below.

Richmond legend Kevin Bartlett has been leading the argument, and this week accused the AFL Commission of knowing “stuff all” about the game.

Bartlett, who has been pushing for a reduction in interchange rotations, warned soccer “will kill’’ Australian Rules within 20 years unless the commission made moves to get rolling mauls and the kicking backwards, possession-style of football out of the game.

“I don’t have any faith in the AFL Commission, I don’t think they have any idea about the game,’’ Bartlett told the Herald Sun’s Mark Robinson.

Kevin Bartlett in his prime with the Richmond Tigers.

Kevin Bartlett in his prime with the Richmond Tigers.

“They might be captains of industry, they might know how to run Woolworths or a Bunnings, tell you about finances and what to buy on the stock exchange, but I reckon they know stuff all about footy.

“Think 20, 25 years down the track, if you don’t have a point of difference, if you have a rolling maul of players running around the ground, then soccer will kill Australian rules football.”

On Monday night, Fox Footy commentator and AFL great Gerard Healy weighed in on the debate, speaking about the death of the full-forward.


“Melbourne lost to West Coast and at one stage it was 100 points to nine, but Melbourne had more possessions than West Coast,’’ he said, referring to their round two clash.

“A contest within a contest doesn’t exist in the AFL game.’’

Another concern surrounds the leeway of the holding the ball rule, with umpires this season seemingly giving players far more opportunity to release the ball, leading to endless scrimmages while players wait for the ball to pop free.

Become boring? I always have found it boring seeing men in tiny shorts with no talent run around