Aflol in WS .

[ParraEelsNRL]

I never mentioned any team, I mentioned the sport.

That means all teams in the sport silly, nice attempt at deflection tho..

[leagueiscrap]

Got this from LU .

He has a link to the quotes on the bottom .

If true & I have no doubt it is ,then it highlights the reality v the perception that The Lawson Report talked about .

News today that the only Western Sydney club in the Sydney Premier division has folded for the year, 2 days before the season starts. Campbelltown has won comps in the past but after the major sponsor cut their investment from 50k to 20k they haven't been able to recruit and facing another year coming last they have pulled out.

Lots of people in the Sydney AFL community (all 10 of them) have been critical of the Giants for the way the have come in and given nothing back to the local community, in fact they partnered up with Manly (that's gotta be west of some bridge somewhere, right?).

A few posts on the topic from the Sydney AFL community since the rumor started doing the rounds 3 weeks ago.

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I highly doubt the AFL would let this happen as they see Town as strategically important and have been doing everything they can to prop them up.
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If Campbelltown are to fold then that will be an absolute stain against the game in Sydney.

And I might say the management of the NSWAFL who have run effectively been running a team (the Magick) out of HQ funded by the NSWAFL when those precious resources could have been used to save an existing club.

This also illustrates starkly the parlous state of the game in the west of Sydney - isn't the district that GWS were meant to be conquering. Well, maybe if they had concentrated on trying to help Campbelltown rather than an idiotic tie up with Manly (possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen) then they might have at least ONE senior AFL club in their catchment area

Have a look at the teams from the West

Campbelltown - about to fold
Camden - progressive but still playing at a very weak level
Penrith - had a small surge but now wallowing
Hawkesbury - perennial battlers
Parramatta - no more than a solid Div 2 club, going better since that mob went off to Auburn
Liverpool - possibly the best run club in the region and on the up but still at Div 2
Blacktown - AFL Pet, built on very shaky foundation

And let's not forget the debacle of the Lebanese experiment in Auburn....
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GWS have done nothing for our club except try an woo our major sponsor. They have no idea who we are and have made absolutely no effort unless you count invitations to the chairmans lounge to drink free piss 2 days before games.

The completely lost our club with the manly venture
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We had our Gala Day for the junior club recently, at Richmond Oval. The Giants support was staggering. No players, but they sent out some games and G-Man's suit, which my brother had to wear.

I've gone right off them, they can fold tomorrow for all I care, they give nothing to the football community out here. The Swans do more.
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Also heard around the traps that ECE the cricket club and Baulko council are not impressed with the Giants either. The community game the other week was supposed to be played at Bruce Purcer and was pulled last minute. Cricket had relocated games to accomadate the game, the council had built a hill for the crowd and the junior and community clubs that ECE invite to help on the day missed out on revenue that would have helped immensely. One could say it was a giant disaster in terms or PR for those clubs involved out west.
All from the first page. If you like reading local club presidents shitting on the Giants, then read this thread!

http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/for...ening-out-West

The link doesn't work spazza!
Again pretty funny spazza trolling & making up shit, through jealously & anger at the AFL

[AFLsforPussies]

And all that talk AFL will take Western Sydney by storm lol... Everyone will fall in love with the most unskilled football code in the world lol...

[AFLsforPussies]

well you can take the ratings for those programs alone in perth and melbourne last weekend for a start. Basically anything shown in Adelaide smacks you down because the game isnt even shown there until 1am.

Wookie why would people watch a sport in great numbers in Adelaide and Perth when there is no teams there yet?

The fact Rugby League is shown in areas on free to air television that don't have a NRL team is an accomplishment for spreading the game.

Yet when we look at areas where AFL don't have teams like New Zealand. You can't even watch AFL unless you pay for it. AFL has not even some coverage like NRL has in Perth and Adelaide.

New Zealand has more people than Perth and Adelaides combined with zero interest in AFL in when it comes to sporting media.
Yet Rugby League is in New Zealand and growing. Just look at the amount of talented Islanders comming out of New Zealand playing Rugby League compared to AFL. They even won four nations.

Then you just look at England. Honestly most people would not even know what AFL is in the UK. TV coverage for AFL is zero there.

The whole thing is pretty amusing saying Rugby League is struggling in TV ratings in two tiny populated states that don't even have NRL teams.

Is like boasting your the biggest fish in a puddle of the global sporting market.

[AFLcrap1]

Got this from LU .

He has a link to the quotes on the bottom .

If true & I have no doubt it is ,then it highlights the reality v the perception that The Lawson Report talked about .

News today that the only Western Sydney club in the Sydney Premier division has folded for the year, 2 days before the season starts. Campbelltown has won comps in the past but after the major sponsor cut their investment from 50k to 20k they haven't been able to recruit and facing another year coming last they have pulled out.

Lots of people in the Sydney AFL community (all 10 of them) have been critical of the Giants for the way the have come in and given nothing back to the local community, in fact they partnered up with Manly (that's gotta be west of some bridge somewhere, right?).

A few posts on the topic from the Sydney AFL community since the rumor started doing the rounds 3 weeks ago.

Quote:
I highly doubt the AFL would let this happen as they see Town as strategically important and have been doing everything they can to prop them up.
Quote:
If Campbelltown are to fold then that will be an absolute stain against the game in Sydney.

And I might say the management of the NSWAFL who have run effectively been running a team (the Magick) out of HQ funded by the NSWAFL when those precious resources could have been used to save an existing club.

This also illustrates starkly the parlous state of the game in the west of Sydney - isn't the district that GWS were meant to be conquering. Well, maybe if they had concentrated on trying to help Campbelltown rather than an idiotic tie up with Manly (possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen) then they might have at least ONE senior AFL club in their catchment area

Have a look at the teams from the West

Campbelltown - about to fold
Camden - progressive but still playing at a very weak level
Penrith - had a small surge but now wallowing
Hawkesbury - perennial battlers
Parramatta - no more than a solid Div 2 club, going better since that mob went off to Auburn
Liverpool - possibly the best run club in the region and on the up but still at Div 2
Blacktown - AFL Pet, built on very shaky foundation

And let's not forget the debacle of the Lebanese experiment in Auburn....
Quote:
GWS have done nothing for our club except try an woo our major sponsor. They have no idea who we are and have made absolutely no effort unless you count invitations to the chairmans lounge to drink free piss 2 days before games.

The completely lost our club with the manly venture
Quote:
We had our Gala Day for the junior club recently, at Richmond Oval. The Giants support was staggering. No players, but they sent out some games and G-Man's suit, which my brother had to wear.

I've gone right off them, they can fold tomorrow for all I care, they give nothing to the football community out here. The Swans do more.
Quote:
Also heard around the traps that ECE the cricket club and Baulko council are not impressed with the Giants either. The community game the other week was supposed to be played at Bruce Purcer and was pulled last minute. Cricket had relocated games to accomadate the game, the council had built a hill for the crowd and the junior and community clubs that ECE invite to help on the day missed out on revenue that would have helped immensely. One could say it was a giant disaster in terms or PR for those clubs involved out west.
All from the first page. If you like reading local club presidents shitting on the Giants, then read this thread!

http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/for...ening-out-West

The link doesn't work spazza!
Again pretty funny spazza trolling & making up shit, through jealously & anger at the AFL

Sorry dumbo .
I don't make stuff up & I don't lie ...
That's seems to be a fumble fan speciality .
Here is the link again .

See this is called providing proof or a source .
You should try it one day .

http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/forum/ ... g-out-West

[AFLcrap1]

Go read the thread dumbo .
It's a real eye opener .
No trolls ,just AFL fans & volunteers from WS who tell it like it is .

& it is a long long way from the propaganda sprouted .

Here are a few more posts .

You could be excused for thinking that the AFL Western Sydney Development team were employed on an incentive basis .... by the NRL.


Growing the game in Western Sydney remains a key priority for the AFL...............

Really? That would explain why the GWS Giants are in bed with the Manly senior club then.


It means that their for the near future there will be no one from the south west representing the region at the highest level in Sydney which is sad for footy in general



AFL Sydney Fixtures already have a bye in Premier Division.

Just gotta shake my head in disbelief, the key to all this is the Junior's and their continued progress to senior local footy.
Clubs in the West are disappearing because the model forced on them is broken, and driven by the great AFL catchment divide.
Their single minded and deliberate destruction of the Bankstown Junior club was to ensure no more players from the West played in the Harbour comp. Like everything else they do it didn't work and the migration continues, they just have to travel further to reach a Harbour club. The reasoning being they had to stop the code being weakened out West, instead of focusing on the real problem which is the comp is too wide-spread.
Without a steady stream of kids coming through what hope has any club.



Juniors are already dead in campbelltown mug have been for years. The only strong juniour club in the area is camden.



Quote Originally Posted by radar oreilly View Post
Camden have also been approached. Sydney AFL doing the rounds.
I wonder of the NSWAFL disclosed this, FFS the start of the season is five days away. Is there anything this bunch of bozos cannot completely stuff up.

In many ways Camden would be a better geographical fit and, no offence to Moorebank , but if you want that deep western Sydney presence then Campbelltown is the place for a major club to be based out of - it has the ground and the history. Moorebank to Campbelltown is well over 20kms, not a small trek.

On the other hand Moorebank as a club would seem the stronger of the two clubs (Camden and Moorebank) to make the step up. It could actually do more than harm to both clubs but Camden more so.

I actually suspect that is a desperate face saving expedition by the clowns at NSWAFL HQ as this the biggest of biggest own goals, especially when you throw in the GWS component. Many of the players will not want to make the trek to Moorebank and setting Camden up as an SFL club inb 5 days seems crazy.

And if the NSWAFL send in endless resources to make it happen then surely the answer needs to be, Where were you when Campbelltown needed you? (The same place when they nearly let Balmain die at the hands of one of their former employees)

Total respect to either club if they decide to take up the challenge but if I was a member I'd be telling the NSWAFL to go away and come back with a comprehensive plan for the region before they got member clubs to save their bacon. I'd be real careful with dealing with those snakes as they will throw you under the bus if they need to, never forget that

Whatever happens, Campbelltown Australian Football Club is dead for all intent and purposes and don't underestimate how hard it will be to resurrect the club - also expect to see the juniors virtually disappear now there is no SFL senior club in the area . The game is much poorer for then not being here - the likes of the Noacks, Russel Matheson (mad a a cut snake and later to be mayor), the Kershaws, Rod Podbury, the endless Premierships, the brave move to the ACTAFL (late NSWAFL payback here perhaps?)...

All because we have an administration in the NSWAFL and a head office via their handmaiden in GWS that are completely and utterly incompetent. NSWAFL Management hang your heads in shame and RIP Campbelltown AFC.


Quote Originally Posted by radar oreilly View Post
Juniors are already dead in campbelltown mug have been for years. The only strong juniour club in the area is camden.
Sorry to hear that. I guess I am showing my age but I remember not that long ago when they had a thriving junior comp of their own out there.

There are some real areas of growth in the game in Sydney at the moment - the Northern Breaches are really benefitting from finally having a SFL club and the likes of North Shore and Penno are adding teams that will ultimately make them stronger. Then there are the Unis and also Randwick/Maroubra.

The West, however, seems to have gone backwards since GWS came to town. It's something almost shameful when you consider their sponsorship of Manly. Btw I know a number of current Manly players and I can tell you that they absolutely HATE the "Giants" tag and pretty much everything that has come with it. They basically just try and ignore it, they still call themselves the Wolves even though their Pres pushed this dumb deal through and it has caused a LOT of angst at that club. The guys down there are a pretty tight unit though

I was very very critical of the GWS project from the beginning and I copped a bit of flak here early on but I always stated that they could turn me around by investing seriously in the game in their area. In fact they have done almost everything they could to alienate the people they should be supporting. It is insane and incredibly stupid.

if GWS are hated by the people in Western Sydney who actually play the game what chance do they have of ever being accepted and even loved in this city. They are just an irrelevance, people do not even care enough about them to hate them. Having Sheeds and him being a halfwit generated a bit of genuine dislike from me but even that has passed for me now. And has anyone ever been to a game out there, I'm sorry but seriously half the crowd seems a little special needs. Have you seen their "away" fans that are at the Melbourne games? I seriously reckon those guys get paid to travel down there by the AFL

They are just an embarrassment

[AFLcrap1]

I expect dumbo & co to ignore these posts
Nothing like burying your head in the sand


This quote is quite telling


I haven't visited here for a while, but it just gets better and better!

The game continues to wither in the west.

Third year in a row that there will not be a junior player registered in the Bankstown area.

... Take a bow AFL NSW/ACT and GWS

[King-Eliagh]

well you can take the ratings for those programs alone in perth and melbourne last weekend for a start. Basically anything shown in Adelaide smacks you down because the game isnt even shown there until 1am.

Wookie why would people watch a sport in great numbers in Adelaide and Perth when there is no teams there yet?

The fact Rugby League is shown in areas on free to air television that don't have a NRL team is an accomplishment for spreading the game.

Yet when we look at areas where AFL don't have teams like New Zealand. You can't even watch AFL unless you pay for it. AFL has not even some coverage like NRL has in Perth and Adelaide.

New Zealand has more people than Perth and Adelaides combined with zero interest in AFL in when it comes to sporting media.
Yet Rugby League is in New Zealand and growing. Just look at the amount of talented Islanders comming out of New Zealand playing Rugby League compared to AFL. They even won four nations.

Then you just look at England. Honestly most people would not even know what AFL is in the UK. TV coverage for AFL is zero there.

The whole thing is pretty amusing saying Rugby League is struggling in TV ratings in two tiny populated states that don't even have NRL teams.

Is like boasting your the biggest fish in a puddle of the global sporting market.

=D> =D> =D> Bravo aflsforpussies =D> =D> =D>

Sorry, had to shed a tear there. It just blows me away and makes me very proud how much smarter more aware and more switched on than the AFL gaggle that us leaguies are :D :D

[AFLcrap1]

Anyone from fumble town willing to discuss the posts I quoted .
Anyone at all .

Come on I'm sure you mob believe whatever propaganda AFLOL house tell you .
How AFL is going great ,numbers increasing BLAH blah .

participation. Lol lol lol lol lol is up whatever % they want to sprout .

[King-Eliagh]

Jesus, I just read em aflcrap, it's far worse than I thought. Wow, what an epic fail gws has been. Seems the region would've grown better without the money the AFL has given em to grow the game.

I mean, the whole izzy saga and the move away from blacktown prob lost ye respect of a million or so

[AFLcrap1]

From day one of the midgets AFL Victardia ,has not had a clue about WS or its people .

& it's not just pissing off the people they were supposedly targeting as new fans ,it's kicking the crap out of hard core Aflol fans .

A bigger abortion in AUST sport is yet to be found

[AFLcrap1]

Bump .
Any fumblers (with half a brain that leaves you out dumbo) care to comment about the reality of the situation in WS.

[King-Eliagh]

I was a fumbler player and did play against campbelltown a few years back. At the time Beaussie was happy that the AFL club had taken over a rl ground in sw sydney. Now? Well now the clubs dead it seems. How quickly and hopelessly the AFL have failed in western sydney. The game at grass roots would be better off without the debacle that is gws.

[AFLcrap1]

That is the gist of what was said on that forum .

[King-Eliagh]

Well those guys are saying it like it is. I don't really give two shits to be honest because when an org promotes incompetence and fabricates reality like the AFL does then they deserve nuttin but the most embarrassing failure.

And that's what they're getting