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if PNG falls over
possible maybe..

then Perth will be team 18 , will be announced later this year for entry in the final year of this present media rights deal ( 2027) , another 100 mill into the coffers for that year , or they may keep their powder dry & enter team 18 for the start of the new deal starting in 2028 ..
There will be no additions 2028-2032 regardless keeping the weekly bye out of draw , double addition 19/20 in 2033
NZ2 will be one of these teams
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Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:39 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:15 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:35 am


NRL to 20, PNG, NZ2 then Perth….all a bit of a risk.
AFL to 22, Tas, NT/NthA, Canberra, then quite a few choices….
Just a matter of how fast.
NZ2 wouldn't be a risk, they have backers and juniors as far as the eye can see.
SKY sports would pay double what they are paying for tv rights at current.

Perth be interesting.

PNG is a money PIT alot of money

AFL to 22 they would not be as easy as it sounds.
NZ Rugby League have only got 4 teams in their premier comp, none of which come from the south island.
If the Super Pacific falls apart they may gain some supporters, but the reverse may also happen. Not convinced that the ownership model the Kea’s are proposing would work in their small catchment area. But it would be interesting to see.

I don’t see the difficulty in the AFL having 22 teams, albeit team 22 could be a long term project depending on where it was located.
Players would not be a problem there is a tonne of them, the amount of cross coding between UNION to LEAGUE would be HUGE
knowing that dollars is alot higher,
especially even more so with NRL now Announcing a strategic Push into NZ nothing like they have ever done.

if you missed it (NRL ANNOUNCED 1 week ago

Millions and Millions will be pumped into NZ
into schools, pathways, academies in a PUSH for the inclusion of a second NRL TEAM based in the south island.
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Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:39 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:15 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:35 am


NRL to 20, PNG, NZ2 then Perth….all a bit of a risk.
AFL to 22, Tas, NT/NthA, Canberra, then quite a few choices….
Just a matter of how fast.
NZ2 wouldn't be a risk, they have backers and juniors as far as the eye can see.
SKY sports would pay double what they are paying for tv rights at current.

Perth be interesting.

PNG is a money PIT alot of money

AFL to 22 they would not be as easy as it sounds.
NZ Rugby League have only got 4 teams in their premier comp, none of which come from the south island.
If the Super Pacific falls apart they may gain some supporters, but the reverse may also happen. Not convinced that the ownership model the Kea’s are proposing would work in their small catchment area. But it would be interesting to see.

I don’t see the difficulty in the AFL having 22 teams, albeit team 22 could be a long term project depending on where it was located.
team 17 and 18 have a been very expensive for the AFL
tasmania 19 with a small base will not be easy as it sounds.

team 20, 21 and 22 will be extremely harder than all of the rest.
the fans the base the juniors the corporate dollar will be stretched like never before.

im not saying it is not doable or possible, i think NRL expansion is alot easier.
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azif wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:58 am
if PNG falls over
possible maybe..

then Perth will be team 18 , will be announced later this year for entry in the final year of this present media rights deal ( 2027) , another 100 mill into the coffers for that year , or they may keep their powder dry & enter team 18 for the start of the new deal starting in 2028 ..
There will be no additions 2028-2032 regardless keeping the weekly bye out of draw , double addition 19/20 in 2033
NZ2 will be one of these teams
if PNG are team 18

i think it would be too long for PERTH team 19 to wait until 2033

do you see the NRL going to 22 teams ?
5th Brisbane team
Adelaide

Mid 2035.
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:50 pm
azif wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:58 am
if PNG falls over
possible maybe..

then Perth will be team 18 , will be announced later this year for entry in the final year of this present media rights deal ( 2027) , another 100 mill into the coffers for that year , or they may keep their powder dry & enter team 18 for the start of the new deal starting in 2028 ..
There will be no additions 2028-2032 regardless keeping the weekly bye out of draw , double addition 19/20 in 2033
NZ2 will be one of these teams
if PNG are team 18

i think it would be too long for PERTH team 19 to wait until 2033

do you see the NRL going to 22 teams ?
5th Brisbane team
Adelaide

Mid 2035.
Yea , PVL has layed the plan out & you're right

if PNG do happen to get the 18th license ( was a lay down 3 weeks ago , but has hit some road blocks recently ) then Perth will come in during the TV deal 2028-2032
if PNG fails , then they won't expend further , but by 2 at the same time .. in 2033

Id think 22 will happen , but probably in the media rights deal starting in 2037
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Perth is a must I feel - and a priority I would think.
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:47 pm
Quolls2019 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:39 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:15 pm


NZ2 wouldn't be a risk, they have backers and juniors as far as the eye can see.
SKY sports would pay double what they are paying for tv rights at current.

Perth be interesting.

PNG is a money PIT alot of money

AFL to 22 they would not be as easy as it sounds.
NZ Rugby League have only got 4 teams in their premier comp, none of which come from the south island.
If the Super Pacific falls apart they may gain some supporters, but the reverse may also happen. Not convinced that the ownership model the Kea’s are proposing would work in their small catchment area. But it would be interesting to see.

I don’t see the difficulty in the AFL having 22 teams, albeit team 22 could be a long term project depending on where it was located.
team 17 and 18 have a been very expensive for the AFL
tasmania 19 with a small base will not be easy as it sounds.

team 20, 21 and 22 will be extremely harder than all of the rest.
the fans the base the juniors the corporate dollar will be stretched like never before.

im not saying it is not doable or possible, i think NRL expansion is alot easier.
The new teams have certainly cost more than most of the “old”, but the increase in rights has more than paid for it.
Consistent Thursday night games, 2 on fridays and monday night football would pay for the expansion. I would also drop the team numbers to 14 on field, with a corresponding list reduction, you would have the players available and not increase the total player payments, seems profitable to me. And solve a few of the current game play issues, possibly creating others.
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Fred wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:01 pm
Perth is a must I feel - and a priority I would think.
100% fred , but the Aust Govt has some kind of Svengali hold over the ARLC at the moment & has convinced them that PNG must get a team & they will pay for it.
Even allowing for this cash injection of tax payer funds into our game , about 90% of NRL fans are opposed to this idea , ranging from unconvinced to outright hostility to it
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https://au.sports.yahoo.com/png-dont-wa ... SNCrxP0i6a

huge claims from Jones , she has no ties to the game , her husband was a former AFL player ..
she has no dog in the fight & has no motivation to misrepresent what she was told in PNG.
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https://www.thenational.com.pg/bid-must ... ent-182500

Marape must have had a night on the Kava before this interview .... is he kidding ?

on Merit ?
there is literally zero merit with this bid , they wouldn't get a look in if China wasn't sniffing around & the Aust Govt wasn't waving cash in front of the NRL

hilarious :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/
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azif wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:41 am
why thank you

most generous of you
600 million is the bill Australian tax payers will pay & fumblers make up around half the country

300m from tanktopball fans

thanks for chipping in :cool:
That's a disgrace.
I don't want any of my taxes going towards a crazy idea from Peter Vlandys in his insane quest to try and turn NRL into the premier competition.

If this happens the AFL must demand similar funding to create a NZ AFL team with
a few hundred million spent on grassroots and a stadium . ( StKilda had some limited success playing away games in Wellington )
NZ is too big to ignore.

Second opinion is to fund a NT AFL team that plays some games in Cairns .

Third point the Tasmanian government must demand full federal government funding for its stadium to prioritise local investment in sport for Australians Not PNG.
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Bbear wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:36 pm
azif wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:41 am
why thank you

most generous of you
600 million is the bill Australian tax payers will pay & fumblers make up around half the country

300m from tanktopball fans

thanks for chipping in :cool:
That's a disgrace.
I don't want any of my taxes going towards a crazy idea from Peter Vlandys in his insane quest to try and turn NRL into the premier competition.

If this happens the AFL must demand similar funding to create a NZ AFL team with
a few hundred million spent on grassroots and a stadium . ( StKilda had some limited success playing away games in Wellington )
NZ is too big to ignore.

Second opinion is to fund a NT AFL team that plays some games in Cairns .

Third point the Tasmanian government must demand full federal government funding for its stadium to prioritise local investment in sport for Australians Not PNG.
ahhh bbong
the NRL is already the premier sporting competition in the region ....

RL is the national sport of PNG ( its a religion there ) , China is attempting to influence the govt of PNG with aid
( even paying off corrupt politicians) ,
so it can build infrastructure including eventually... military facilities there.
RL could be used to stop this advance of China in PNG such is the esteem this sport is held in there.

now lets examine your idea that tanktop ball demand the Govt set up a giggles & oopsies side in NZ
:hmm:

:-k

:lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

you lot went to NZ .. remember
& got frog marched out .... ahhhhh ... theres the door .... kindly use it & please ... never return :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

The kiwis thought the same thing that half of Australia does
what in the name of god are these skinny little unco white tossers in singlets doing exactly :hmm: ?

:lol: :lol:

The aflol couldn't get the Aust Govt to pay for a subway voucher let alone fund a team in NZ :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/
or any other funding for any other teams for that matter , funding for the building of stadiums is different & they have always contributed with state govts do to this , The stadium in Hobart , the upgrades to Suncorp for the Olympics & the new rectangle stadium in Canberra for the Raiders & Brumbies. We all contribute to these.

But this PNG NRL team is not the same thing at all..

now
get your hard earned out bbong .... hand it over ... some NRL players need to get paid :twisted:
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azif wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:41 am
why thank you

most generous of you
600 million is the bill Australian tax payers will pay & fumblers make up around half the country

300m from tanktopball fans

thanks for chipping in :cool:
Only fair after AFL robbed the tax payer for GWS to play in Canberra and getting plenty of money once again off the tax payer for the new Tasmanian team.
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GlobalRugbyLeague wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:58 pm
azif wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:41 am
why thank you

most generous of you
600 million is the bill Australian tax payers will pay & fumblers make up around half the country

300m from tanktopball fans

thanks for chipping in :cool:
Only fair after AFL robbed the tax payer for GWS to play in Canberra and getting plenty of money once again off the tax payer for the new Tasmanian team.
GWS's tax dollars came from residents of the ACT , & the Fed funding for the stadium in Tassie is no different to contributions to primarily RL grounds
& the feds will put up about 250 mill for the new stadium in Canberra too , as i said no issue with any of this

this PNG team is completely different , not even close infact
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Another day , another twist in the NRLs expansion plans
Seems common sense is going to prevail & Perth will be team 18 , & a new suitor has emerged with the Jets possibly being their emblem & Blue & White their colours

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport ... c0c711?amp





the ARLC is meeting in Melbourne on June 26th & a definitive decision on the path forward will be made with an announcement in July some time





The NRL’s path to 20 teams has taken a surprise twist with Perth now the frontrunner to become the game’s latest franchise amid an 11th hour push to have Western Australia in the competition by 2027.

The issue will come to a head with a crucial ARL Commission meeting on the morning of the second State of Origin game in Melbourne on June 26, where they will finalise their plans for the future of the premiership.

Support for Perth to link up with the Newtown Jets continues to grow despite speculation that North Sydney had a near guarantee that they would be part of any new side in Western Australia. PNG had long been considered the game’s next expansion side but it is understood that the PNG team’s entry to the premiership may follow Perth by 12 months, giving the NRL an expanded 19-team competition by 2028.

Despite the development, the appetite remains for PNG – backed by a bumper $600 million cash injection courtesy of the federal government – to join the NRL.

However, this masthead understands that a bid from Perth – backed by the Western Australian government – is now edging ahead of PNG as the commission looks to add an 18th team as early as 2027.

PNG would then become the NRL’s 19th team before a 20th franchise was added to the competition

While the PNG bid has largely hogged the expansion headlines, Perth officials have been quietly going about their business with the strong support of the WA government, WA Rugby League and consortium boss Peter Cumins.

Cumins is the head of a powerful group which also includes his brother Brian Cumins, The Cumins family have a relationship with rugby league stretching back to the Western Reds – Brian Cumins is the founder of Cash Converters, who sponsored the Reds.

The Brothers are two of the driving forces behind a bid to bring the NRL back to Perth, either as a stand-alone entity or as part of a partnership with the Bears or the Jets.

Talks have been held with both former top flight clubs, although an alliance with the Bears has the support of ARL Commission chair Peter V’landys as the game looks to revive a latent supporter base and one of the most powerful brands in the game.

While the Bears link has dominated talk there is some reluctance at the Western Australian government level to join forces with North Sydney. Instead, Newtown have been quietly building their own case in the background and have forged strong relationships with the powerbrokers in Western Australia.

Sources close to the discussions acknowledged that Newtown may be a favourable partner should Western Australia be unable to become a stand-alone franchise. The Jets have also been working on financial backers to help with their return.

Perth consortium members held top-level talks with ARL Commissioner Peter Beattie in WA last week as they looked to turn up the heat on powerbrokers to prioritise their entry over PNG.

The Perth bid has several factors in its favour, most significantly their appeal to broadcasters because of the favourable time zone – the NRL’s broadcast deal ends in 2027.

Adding Perth as the 18th team would also give the NRL more time to ensure the PNG bid strengthens its pathways and has time to be successful.

It is believed the $600 million commitment from the federal government would remain in place as long as PNG remained in the frame for entry to the competition
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