State of the Game: 2018 TV Ratings
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State of the Game: 2018 TV Ratings
Background
Nine had the No.1 "event" broadcast with the first QLD vs NSW State of Origin game pipping Seven’s AFL Grand Final.
Top rating TV events, 2018
State of Origin Game 1, Nine, 3.44 million
AFL Grand Final: West Coast vs Collingwood, Seven, 3.40 million
AFL Grand Final presentations, Seven, 3.33 million
State of Origin Game 2, Nine, 3.20 million
NRL Grand Final Day, Nine, 3.06 million
The Block: Winner Announcement, Nine, 2.89 million
Commonwealth Games: Opening Ceremony, Seven, 2.79 million
State of Origin Game 3, Nine, 2.67 million
Royal Wedding: Harry and Meghan Ceremony, Seven, 2.64 million
Married at First Sight: Finale, Nine, 2.59 million
Streaming
Telstra Live Pass reported 2.3m subscribers across all its sports in 2018. In August, Telstra broke a record for the most mobile devices streaming sport on its apps in a single weekend, with 1.2 million individual devices streaming NRL, AFL and Netball through the sports' apps. At one point on the weekend of August 10-11, 82,120 viewers concurrently streamed the Hawthorn versus Geelong AFL match. Across all the sports apps, the highest number of concurrent viewers to date is 109,000.
A-league and the FFA
2018 Broadcast Revenue: $56,323,000
Broadcasters: Network 10, Foxtel
Streaming: Foxtel Now
Mobile: Telstra
The 2018 FFA Annual Review doesnt address TV ratings at all.
Television
In February, AAP quoted David Gallop saying no one was overly happy with the present ratings.
"No-one could be happy with the pure output, in terms of numbers around attendances and ratings," he said.
In October, Fairfax noted that television audiences remain a problem across the league. Some 69,000 people watched the Melbourne derby on Fox Sports, compared to 121,000 for the first edition of the rivalry last year. Figures for free-to-air audiences on One were unavailable. The other two Melbourne derbies in 2017-18 had Fox Sports audiences of 77,000 and 59,000. The Adelaide and Sydney season opener was watched by 67,000 people on Fox Sports, more than 30,000 less than the A-League's opening game last year. It was the lowest television audience for a season opener since 2011-12.
Mediaweek offered a list of the average TV Ratings per season on Foxsports.
A-League season average on Fox Sports:
2005-2006 – 42,054
2006-2007 – 55,465
2007-2008 – 69,745
2008-2009 – 63,792
2009-2010 – 54,018
2010-2011 – 44,968
2011-2012 – 65,789
2012-2013 – 74,659
2013-2014 – 65,109
2014-2015 – 59,749
2015-2016 – 55,193
2016-2017 – 63,422
2017-2018 – 51,169
Streaming
In November, News Limited noted streaming complicated things but that it’s highly unlikely that the “missing” viewers account for the shortfall in A-League viewers. The article also notes that streaming service operators arent releasing figures.
Australian Football League
2018 Broadcast Revenue: $391,323,000 (plus $16,000,000 in contra)
Broadcasters: Seven Network, Foxtel
Streaming: Foxtel Now
Mobile: Telstra
Television
According to the 2018 AFL Annual Report, the average gross national audience across free-to-air and subscription television per home and away round was 3.882 million, compared with 4.449 million in 2017 (a decrease
of 12.7 per cent).
The cumulative gross national audience during the home and away season exceeded 89 million (89,348,093), which was down on the 102.3 million (102,337,684) in 2017. The 89 million viewers comprised 52.71 million viewers on free-to-air and 36.63 million viewers on subscription television. The AFL noted early season scheduling challenges, as well as emerging digital platforms as possible reasons for the downturn.
Friday night matches during the 2018 AFL Premiership Season attracted a national average audience of 958,432 across free-to-air and subscription television, down on the 2017 average of 1,143,699. The seven Thursday night matches attracted a national average audience of 987,127 across free-to-air and subscription television which exceeded the average audience for Friday night matches.
Fairfax noted that the 2018 match average was 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally. The average Foxtel audience was 184,821 for the AFL (down 7 per cent on 2017).
The Swans have the AFL’s highest TV audience, with 14.3m viewers over the premiership season.
The 10 most-watched matches of the 2018 AFL Home and Away Season (national average audiences across free-to-air and subscription television) were:
1. Round 5 – Collingwood v Essendon – 1.259 million (Anzac Day)
2. Round 1 – Richmond v Carlton – 1.178 million
3. Round 20 – Richmond v Geelong Cats –1.167 million
4. Round 19 – Essendon v Sydney Swans –1.127 million
5. Round 13 – Sydney Swans v West Coast Eagles – 1.111 million
6. Round 1 – Essendon v Adelaide Crows – 1.088 million
7. Round 8 – Hawthorn v Sydney Swans – 1.084 million
8. Round 15 – Richmond v Sydney Swans –1.079 million
9. Round 5 – Sydney Swans v Adelaide Crows – 1.073 million
10. Round 12 – Melbourne v Collingwood – 1.071 million (Queen’s Birthday)
The gross cumulative audience for the 2018 AFL Finals Series was 16,528,256. This marks a decrease of 2.2 per cent on the total national viewership for the 2017 AFL Finals Series (16,904,687)
Foxfooty attracted a national average audience of 551,661 for the preliminary final between Richmond and Collingwood, which made it the second-highest rating AFL match of all time on its platform, behind only the 555,014 for the preliminary fnal between Richmond and GWS Giants in 2017
The 2018 AFL Grand Final national average audience (metropolitan and regional) of 3.39 million (3,386,253) on the Seven Network was fve per cent down on the 3.56 million who tuned into the 2017 Grand Final between the Adelaide Crows and Richmond. The combined five mainland capital city metropolitan audience of 2,609,707 viewers for the 2018 AFL Grand Final made it the most-watched program on metropolitan free-to-air television in 2018.
The Seven Network also exclusively broadcast the Brownlow Medal live and attracted a national average audience (metropolitan and regional) of 1,141,414.
Streaming
According to the 2018 Annual Report, streaming of live matches through the AFL Live app grew by 13 per cent to more than 450 million minutes compared with 2017. The League reported more than 1.6 million Live Pass Subscribers.
This is the equivalent of 7.5 million hours, or 2.5 million full matches, and works out to about 12,000 viewers per full match.
National Rugby League
2018 Broadcast Revenue: $317,992,000 (plus $23,623,000 contra)
Broadcasters: Nine Network, Foxtel
Streaming: 9now, Foxtel Now
Mobile: Telstra
Television
Fairfax reported at the end of round 25, that television ratings for the NRL season had eclipsed the AFL’s audiences for the first time since 2010, reflecting the closeness of games in the rugby league competition compared to AFL. The article notes that the NRL had also bucked the overall trend in the Australian TV market, where cumulative ratings have experienced a decline of 7.2 per cent in total over the last year.
The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018 during the premiership season. The average subscription TV audience (Foxtel) for the NRL was 240,879 in 2018 (up 3 per cent on 2017).
The highest watched team was the Broncos, with a live audience of more than 18m over the season. The second-highest watched team nationally was the Cowboys – with nearly 15m viewers over the season.
Origin 1 was the most watched sporting program of the year with 3.44m viewers, with Origin 2 coming at #4 and Origin 3 at #8.
The 2018 NRL Annual Report notes that the number of people watching rugby league on television across Australia and New Zealand rose by 1.1 per cent in 2018, with a total aggregate broadcast audience of 116 million for 2018.
Streaming
Telstra reported that the the NRL Official App delivered almost 400 million minutes of exciting rugby league action to a fan base that grew by an incredible 60 per cent this year. With 540,000 NRL Live Pass subscribers reported in 2017, this would give about 860,000 Live Pass subscriptions in 2018. This works out to around 6.7 million hours, about the same as 3.3 million matches and about 16,000 viewers per full match.
Fairfax reported that average streams of games per round increased by 108 per cent between 2017 and 2018.
Newcastle were awarded the Most Streamed Team at the 2018 Dally M Awards. The Knights were watched by a cumulative audience of 1.7 million fans throughout the season – and had to fend of challenges from last year’s winning team, the Manly Sea Eagles, as well as the New Zealand Warriors and Melbourne Storm, who all made the top four.
The most streamed game was Round 7, NZ Warriors v St George Illawarra Dragons.
In the battle of the states, rugby league fans in New South Wales can claim bragging rights over their Queensland rivals both on and off the pitch this year, with just over half of all streams being consumed within the blue state.
New Zealand
Fairfax reported that total viewership of NRL on Sky in New Zealand is up by 21 per cent, year on year.
Super Rugby and Rugby Union
Broadcast revenue: Not available yet.
Broadcasters: Foxtel, 10 Network
Streaming: Foxtel
Mobile: Telstra
The 2018 Rugby Australia Annual Report is yet to be released.
Television
Rugby Australia figures showed Super Rugby matches played in Australia attracted an average audience of 71,000 last year, up nine per cent on 2017, a season that was dogged by speculation over which Australian team would be cut from the competition and by a record poor performance from the NSW Waratahs, the team representing Australia's largest fan base.
Fairfax reported that further Oztam ratings obtained by the Herald showed that figure plummeted in the five metropolitan cities, attracting an average pay television audience of just 50,000, which was less than the A-League's 51,000 and a fraction of the NRL's 164,000 and AFL's 167,000.
The Super Rugby picture was worse when the competition's overseas games were factored in, falling to an average audience across of 23,000 across the five metropolitan cities.
Sources
Properly linked here - http://www.footyindustry.com/?p=4668
2018 AFL Annual Report
2018 NRL Annual Report
2018 FFA Annual Report
2018 Rugby Australia Annual Report
Newcastle Knights win 2018 Telstra NRL ‘Most Streamed Team’ Award
Telstra mobile sports streaming numbers surge
NRL trumps AFL in TV ratings war
1.2 million devices: Telstra breaks weekend sports streaming record
A-League crowds up, TV ratings struggle as Honda's attitude impresses
History of A-League ratings: How much have the numbers dropped?
Gallop bemoans poor A League numbers
A-League ponders sliding ratings as streaming services develop
Super Rugby metro ratings fall below A-League levels in 2018
Most-watched programs of 2018 revealed
Nine had the No.1 "event" broadcast with the first QLD vs NSW State of Origin game pipping Seven’s AFL Grand Final.
Top rating TV events, 2018
State of Origin Game 1, Nine, 3.44 million
AFL Grand Final: West Coast vs Collingwood, Seven, 3.40 million
AFL Grand Final presentations, Seven, 3.33 million
State of Origin Game 2, Nine, 3.20 million
NRL Grand Final Day, Nine, 3.06 million
The Block: Winner Announcement, Nine, 2.89 million
Commonwealth Games: Opening Ceremony, Seven, 2.79 million
State of Origin Game 3, Nine, 2.67 million
Royal Wedding: Harry and Meghan Ceremony, Seven, 2.64 million
Married at First Sight: Finale, Nine, 2.59 million
Streaming
Telstra Live Pass reported 2.3m subscribers across all its sports in 2018. In August, Telstra broke a record for the most mobile devices streaming sport on its apps in a single weekend, with 1.2 million individual devices streaming NRL, AFL and Netball through the sports' apps. At one point on the weekend of August 10-11, 82,120 viewers concurrently streamed the Hawthorn versus Geelong AFL match. Across all the sports apps, the highest number of concurrent viewers to date is 109,000.
A-league and the FFA
2018 Broadcast Revenue: $56,323,000
Broadcasters: Network 10, Foxtel
Streaming: Foxtel Now
Mobile: Telstra
The 2018 FFA Annual Review doesnt address TV ratings at all.
Television
In February, AAP quoted David Gallop saying no one was overly happy with the present ratings.
"No-one could be happy with the pure output, in terms of numbers around attendances and ratings," he said.
In October, Fairfax noted that television audiences remain a problem across the league. Some 69,000 people watched the Melbourne derby on Fox Sports, compared to 121,000 for the first edition of the rivalry last year. Figures for free-to-air audiences on One were unavailable. The other two Melbourne derbies in 2017-18 had Fox Sports audiences of 77,000 and 59,000. The Adelaide and Sydney season opener was watched by 67,000 people on Fox Sports, more than 30,000 less than the A-League's opening game last year. It was the lowest television audience for a season opener since 2011-12.
Mediaweek offered a list of the average TV Ratings per season on Foxsports.
A-League season average on Fox Sports:
2005-2006 – 42,054
2006-2007 – 55,465
2007-2008 – 69,745
2008-2009 – 63,792
2009-2010 – 54,018
2010-2011 – 44,968
2011-2012 – 65,789
2012-2013 – 74,659
2013-2014 – 65,109
2014-2015 – 59,749
2015-2016 – 55,193
2016-2017 – 63,422
2017-2018 – 51,169
Streaming
In November, News Limited noted streaming complicated things but that it’s highly unlikely that the “missing” viewers account for the shortfall in A-League viewers. The article also notes that streaming service operators arent releasing figures.
Australian Football League
2018 Broadcast Revenue: $391,323,000 (plus $16,000,000 in contra)
Broadcasters: Seven Network, Foxtel
Streaming: Foxtel Now
Mobile: Telstra
Television
According to the 2018 AFL Annual Report, the average gross national audience across free-to-air and subscription television per home and away round was 3.882 million, compared with 4.449 million in 2017 (a decrease
of 12.7 per cent).
The cumulative gross national audience during the home and away season exceeded 89 million (89,348,093), which was down on the 102.3 million (102,337,684) in 2017. The 89 million viewers comprised 52.71 million viewers on free-to-air and 36.63 million viewers on subscription television. The AFL noted early season scheduling challenges, as well as emerging digital platforms as possible reasons for the downturn.
Friday night matches during the 2018 AFL Premiership Season attracted a national average audience of 958,432 across free-to-air and subscription television, down on the 2017 average of 1,143,699. The seven Thursday night matches attracted a national average audience of 987,127 across free-to-air and subscription television which exceeded the average audience for Friday night matches.
Fairfax noted that the 2018 match average was 307,793 for the AFL (down 13 per cent on 2017), acknowledging that the AFL has cross-over timeslots and doesn’t go free to air with the same games nationally. The average Foxtel audience was 184,821 for the AFL (down 7 per cent on 2017).
The Swans have the AFL’s highest TV audience, with 14.3m viewers over the premiership season.
The 10 most-watched matches of the 2018 AFL Home and Away Season (national average audiences across free-to-air and subscription television) were:
1. Round 5 – Collingwood v Essendon – 1.259 million (Anzac Day)
2. Round 1 – Richmond v Carlton – 1.178 million
3. Round 20 – Richmond v Geelong Cats –1.167 million
4. Round 19 – Essendon v Sydney Swans –1.127 million
5. Round 13 – Sydney Swans v West Coast Eagles – 1.111 million
6. Round 1 – Essendon v Adelaide Crows – 1.088 million
7. Round 8 – Hawthorn v Sydney Swans – 1.084 million
8. Round 15 – Richmond v Sydney Swans –1.079 million
9. Round 5 – Sydney Swans v Adelaide Crows – 1.073 million
10. Round 12 – Melbourne v Collingwood – 1.071 million (Queen’s Birthday)
The gross cumulative audience for the 2018 AFL Finals Series was 16,528,256. This marks a decrease of 2.2 per cent on the total national viewership for the 2017 AFL Finals Series (16,904,687)
Foxfooty attracted a national average audience of 551,661 for the preliminary final between Richmond and Collingwood, which made it the second-highest rating AFL match of all time on its platform, behind only the 555,014 for the preliminary fnal between Richmond and GWS Giants in 2017
The 2018 AFL Grand Final national average audience (metropolitan and regional) of 3.39 million (3,386,253) on the Seven Network was fve per cent down on the 3.56 million who tuned into the 2017 Grand Final between the Adelaide Crows and Richmond. The combined five mainland capital city metropolitan audience of 2,609,707 viewers for the 2018 AFL Grand Final made it the most-watched program on metropolitan free-to-air television in 2018.
The Seven Network also exclusively broadcast the Brownlow Medal live and attracted a national average audience (metropolitan and regional) of 1,141,414.
Streaming
According to the 2018 Annual Report, streaming of live matches through the AFL Live app grew by 13 per cent to more than 450 million minutes compared with 2017. The League reported more than 1.6 million Live Pass Subscribers.
This is the equivalent of 7.5 million hours, or 2.5 million full matches, and works out to about 12,000 viewers per full match.
National Rugby League
2018 Broadcast Revenue: $317,992,000 (plus $23,623,000 contra)
Broadcasters: Nine Network, Foxtel
Streaming: 9now, Foxtel Now
Mobile: Telstra
Television
Fairfax reported at the end of round 25, that television ratings for the NRL season had eclipsed the AFL’s audiences for the first time since 2010, reflecting the closeness of games in the rugby league competition compared to AFL. The article notes that the NRL had also bucked the overall trend in the Australian TV market, where cumulative ratings have experienced a decline of 7.2 per cent in total over the last year.
The average free-to-air audience for the NRL was 600,181 in 2018 during the premiership season. The average subscription TV audience (Foxtel) for the NRL was 240,879 in 2018 (up 3 per cent on 2017).
The highest watched team was the Broncos, with a live audience of more than 18m over the season. The second-highest watched team nationally was the Cowboys – with nearly 15m viewers over the season.
Origin 1 was the most watched sporting program of the year with 3.44m viewers, with Origin 2 coming at #4 and Origin 3 at #8.
The 2018 NRL Annual Report notes that the number of people watching rugby league on television across Australia and New Zealand rose by 1.1 per cent in 2018, with a total aggregate broadcast audience of 116 million for 2018.
Streaming
Telstra reported that the the NRL Official App delivered almost 400 million minutes of exciting rugby league action to a fan base that grew by an incredible 60 per cent this year. With 540,000 NRL Live Pass subscribers reported in 2017, this would give about 860,000 Live Pass subscriptions in 2018. This works out to around 6.7 million hours, about the same as 3.3 million matches and about 16,000 viewers per full match.
Fairfax reported that average streams of games per round increased by 108 per cent between 2017 and 2018.
Newcastle were awarded the Most Streamed Team at the 2018 Dally M Awards. The Knights were watched by a cumulative audience of 1.7 million fans throughout the season – and had to fend of challenges from last year’s winning team, the Manly Sea Eagles, as well as the New Zealand Warriors and Melbourne Storm, who all made the top four.
The most streamed game was Round 7, NZ Warriors v St George Illawarra Dragons.
In the battle of the states, rugby league fans in New South Wales can claim bragging rights over their Queensland rivals both on and off the pitch this year, with just over half of all streams being consumed within the blue state.
New Zealand
Fairfax reported that total viewership of NRL on Sky in New Zealand is up by 21 per cent, year on year.
Super Rugby and Rugby Union
Broadcast revenue: Not available yet.
Broadcasters: Foxtel, 10 Network
Streaming: Foxtel
Mobile: Telstra
The 2018 Rugby Australia Annual Report is yet to be released.
Television
Rugby Australia figures showed Super Rugby matches played in Australia attracted an average audience of 71,000 last year, up nine per cent on 2017, a season that was dogged by speculation over which Australian team would be cut from the competition and by a record poor performance from the NSW Waratahs, the team representing Australia's largest fan base.
Fairfax reported that further Oztam ratings obtained by the Herald showed that figure plummeted in the five metropolitan cities, attracting an average pay television audience of just 50,000, which was less than the A-League's 51,000 and a fraction of the NRL's 164,000 and AFL's 167,000.
The Super Rugby picture was worse when the competition's overseas games were factored in, falling to an average audience across of 23,000 across the five metropolitan cities.
Sources
Properly linked here - http://www.footyindustry.com/?p=4668
2018 AFL Annual Report
2018 NRL Annual Report
2018 FFA Annual Report
2018 Rugby Australia Annual Report
Newcastle Knights win 2018 Telstra NRL ‘Most Streamed Team’ Award
Telstra mobile sports streaming numbers surge
NRL trumps AFL in TV ratings war
1.2 million devices: Telstra breaks weekend sports streaming record
A-League crowds up, TV ratings struggle as Honda's attitude impresses
History of A-League ratings: How much have the numbers dropped?
Gallop bemoans poor A League numbers
A-League ponders sliding ratings as streaming services develop
Super Rugby metro ratings fall below A-League levels in 2018
Most-watched programs of 2018 revealed
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to be honest, disappointed a the level of information provided in the NRL report.
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What other information should there have been Wookie??The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:20 pm to be honest, disappointed a the level of information provided in the NRL report.
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If not something like what the AFL does in their report then at least a more specific breakdowns of the ratings. They've done it in the past. This year was fairly thin on details compared to some. The 2016 report was the last time we really got this from the NRL.Terry wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:21 pmWhat other information should there have been Wookie??The_Wookie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:20 pm to be honest, disappointed a the level of information provided in the NRL report.

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Next the mongos will come in going blah blah blah about touch footy and yet still use ozkick numbers.
You can't use touch footy it's not rl waaaaaaaaaaaaah when infact touch and tag rl are a hellava lot older than ozkick is and has been national for decades longer.
Truth again (btw not having a go at this thread which breaks it all down well, just getting in first).
You can't use touch footy it's not rl waaaaaaaaaaaaah when infact touch and tag rl are a hellava lot older than ozkick is and has been national for decades longer.
Truth again (btw not having a go at this thread which breaks it all down well, just getting in first).
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Thick shit, out of every 3rd party data collection taken for sporting participation rates shows the afl numbers to be decades ahead of leagueParraEelsNRL wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:52 am Next the mongos will come in going blah blah blah about touch footy and yet still use ozkick numbers.
You can't use touch footy it's not rl waaaaaaaaaaaaah when infact touch and tag rl are a hellava lot older than ozkick is and has been national for decades longer.
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Btw this is a tv ratings thread

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No, RL is a much bigger sport than girtbysea ball.
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Im hoping to do particpation figures when I next have free time. Wont be this weekend - moving to Tassie over the weekend.ParraEelsNRL wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:52 am Next the mongos will come in going blah blah blah about touch footy and yet still use ozkick numbers.
You can't use touch footy it's not rl waaaaaaaaaaaaah when infact touch and tag rl are a hellava lot older than ozkick is and has been national for decades longer.
Truth again (btw not having a go at this thread which breaks it all down well, just getting in first).
I tend to use both a combined NRL & Touch number, as well as separate figures for both. Keeps everybody happy. (same as I did with NRL crowd numbers last year reporting both traditional and new NRL methods of counting double headers).
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Great Work Wookie>>The_Wookie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:24 pmIm hoping to do particpation figures when I next have free time. Wont be this weekend - moving to Tassie over the weekend.ParraEelsNRL wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:52 am Next the mongos will come in going blah blah blah about touch footy and yet still use ozkick numbers.
You can't use touch footy it's not rl waaaaaaaaaaaaah when infact touch and tag rl are a hellava lot older than ozkick is and has been national for decades longer.
Truth again (btw not having a go at this thread which breaks it all down well, just getting in first).
I tend to use both a combined NRL & Touch number, as well as separate figures for both. Keeps everybody happy. (same as I did with NRL crowd numbers last year reporting both traditional and new NRL methods of counting double headers).
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Very fair Wookie. Some of the most exciting players in the NRL have honed their skills in touch footy. A very important component of the overall game.The_Wookie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:24 pmIm hoping to do particpation figures when I next have free time. Wont be this weekend - moving to Tassie over the weekend.ParraEelsNRL wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:52 am Next the mongos will come in going blah blah blah about touch footy and yet still use ozkick numbers.
You can't use touch footy it's not rl waaaaaaaaaaaaah when infact touch and tag rl are a hellava lot older than ozkick is and has been national for decades longer.
Truth again (btw not having a go at this thread which breaks it all down well, just getting in first).
I tend to use both a combined NRL & Touch number, as well as separate figures for both. Keeps everybody happy. (same as I did with NRL crowd numbers last year reporting both traditional and new NRL methods of counting double headers).
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To add to that point>> as the Game of Rugby League can be so brutal on the body and limited to certain athletes.Terry wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:58 pmVery fair Wookie. Some of the most exciting players in the NRL have honed their skills in touch footy. A very important component of the overall game.The_Wookie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:24 pmIm hoping to do particpation figures when I next have free time. Wont be this weekend - moving to Tassie over the weekend.ParraEelsNRL wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:52 am Next the mongos will come in going blah blah blah about touch footy and yet still use ozkick numbers.
You can't use touch footy it's not rl waaaaaaaaaaaaah when infact touch and tag rl are a hellava lot older than ozkick is and has been national for decades longer.
Truth again (btw not having a go at this thread which breaks it all down well, just getting in first).
I tend to use both a combined NRL & Touch number, as well as separate figures for both. Keeps everybody happy. (same as I did with NRL crowd numbers last year reporting both traditional and new NRL methods of counting double headers).
it is always going to be so limited in regards to player registrations...
alot of footy lovers are playing the game they love but in a non contact way.
where skills are just as good but in a slightly different way.
I myself would no longer play tackle rugby league anymore, and i resort to playing touch comps.
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Re: State of the Game: 2018 TV Ratings
Yes
All the facts and figures point the opposite as to what your opinion is

Every area points to afl is a much bigger spot, unless you have some exclusive facts and figures the world has net seen as yet
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Re: State of the Game: 2018 TV Ratings
Umm RL is played professionally in at least 6 countries, Australia, NZ, PNG (Hunters are fully pro in the qld cup) England, France and Canada with Wales having two semi pro teams in the English lower divisions where they can be promoted if they win right up to Super League. I'd say RL is way bigger than AFL. Also there are plans to put to the vote in a few weeks about admitting a second Canadian team and New York with Jacksonville and Boston murmuring about joining. Then we have the Balkan Super League which is growing each year that has clubs from 8 nations taking part. Those nations are Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia Herzegovina, Turkey, Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece and Italy. Probably have Russia in there somewhere shortly too.
Oops, forgot to mention Fiji joining the NSW cup next season
You can bet they'll be fully pro too just like the Hunters from PNG.
What's the afl got again?
I also know that it's not just in TV ratings and player numbers that RL beats AFL too because unlike afl, RL isn't stuck in one country only and having only one professional comp.
So, what have ya got this time dumbo, blah blah blah it's not true blah blah blah?
Need some links or should I do what you do and provide ziltch, zero, nutta?
Oops, forgot to mention Fiji joining the NSW cup next season

What's the afl got again?
I also know that it's not just in TV ratings and player numbers that RL beats AFL too because unlike afl, RL isn't stuck in one country only and having only one professional comp.
So, what have ya got this time dumbo, blah blah blah it's not true blah blah blah?
Need some links or should I do what you do and provide ziltch, zero, nutta?
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