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Great to see the game doing so well in NSW. As you can see from the stats of growth, GWS has been a great addition to the football scene in NSW, helping to drive massive growth in crowds, membership, sponsorship and participation numbers across all levels of the game. :thumbleft:
AFL is growing in Sydney with the success of the Swans, Giants and introduction of GWS’s AFLW team

NEIL CORDY, The Daily Telegraph
January 14, 2017 7:07pm

AFL in New South Wales is flying high.

Last season the Sydney Swans were swept away by a wave of Western Bulldogs emotion in the Grand Final, while Greater Western Sydney fell agonisingly short in the preliminary final in just their fifth season.

But 2017 brings plenty of expectation for both Sydney clubs. The Giants are $5 favourites to win the flag with the TAB and the Swans are the third most fancied at $7.50.

The stunning on-field performances were matched by record TV ratings, memberships and crowd numbers.

Until 2016 aggregate attendances hadn’t broken the 500,000 mark but last year the turnstiles spun like a top with 640,000 people showing up at the 27 games in NSW and the ACT.

The academies of both clubs are producing elite local talent which was on show on Grand Final day where Isaac Heeney (Newcastle), Callum Mills (Mosman) and Sam Naismith (Gunnadah) brought NSW numbers in the Swans team to six alongside then co-captains Kieren Jack and Jarrad McVeigh and All-Australian defender Dane Rampe.

It’s a world away from when Sydney chairman Andrew Pridham arrived in Sydney in 1988 and the Swans were in their sixth season in the harbour city and battling to establish a foothold.

“When the Swans came to Sydney they were absolutely nowhere,” Pridham told The Sunday Telegraph.

“They were a transplanted team not materially different to when the NRL put the Rams in Adelaide. It takes time, you can’t build passion and intergenerational support in two or three seasons it’s a long process.”

Pridham witnessed the departures of three top three draft picks Darren Gaspar (pick No.1, 1993), Anthony Rocca (pick No.2, 1994) and Shannon Grant (pick No.3, 1994) all within the space of two years to Melbourne clubs.

He is convinced growing the game in NSW has helped reduce the go-home factor which plagued the Swans in the early days.
“We’ve worked towards developing the game in NSW with the AFL,” Pridham said.

“Getting it into schools and building the love of the game is vital. The effect is kids start playing and it’s a numbers game and the better chance of finding players who can play. The effect is you see the Kieren Jacks, the Mills, the Heeneys, the Rampes, the Naismiths and the McVeighs.

“In an ideal world you’d have an over representation of NSW players. When you look at WA, SA and Victorian clubs the majority of players are from their home states.

“The northern clubs haven’t been able to do it because the players haven’t been there. If all else is equal you remove the go home factor.”
The Giants have no less than 27 former players on other team’s lists after nine trades in the off-season.

GWS chairman Tony Shepherd believes it will take decades for his team to build real success.

“It could take us 20 years to get there,” Shepherd said.

“We might do it sooner than 20 years but it will take a long time to put down permanent roots and continued on field success is paramount. The AFL has invested significantly in community football and it’s having a real effect.

“We have some advantages, the AFL is established here, we have on field success which is vital in the Sydney market and thirdly the academies are critical.”

The Giants academy has developed plenty of talent from the Riverina but none from Western Sydney or Canberra (following the departure of Jack Steele to St Kilda).

Shepherd believes the elite talent from the area will eventually come but for the moment the academies are helping Aussie rules at the grassroots
“It’s not just the ones who play AFL,” Shepherd said.

“We are getting thousands of others who are trained at the elite level who go back into the community and strengthen AFL across the board.
“This is a far deeper strategy than when the Swans were established. The Swans were hung out to dry. The first 10 years were partially wasted but when the code got serious about it then the Swans really started to have success.”

STATE OF GROWTH

— Sydney Swans membership up 15.7%
— GWS Giants membership up 13.6%
— 2016 NSW/ACT AFL players: 237,549 up (10.4%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT Auskick players: 61,037 (up 18.24%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT AFL 9s players: 7347 (up 12.2%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT female players: 85,919 (up 23%)


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— Sydney Swans membership up 15.7%
— GWS Giants membership up 13.6%
— 2016 NSW/ACT AFL players: 237,549 up (10.4%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT Auskick players: 61,037 (up 18.24%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT AFL 9s players: 7347 (up 12.2%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT female players: 85,919 (up 23%)

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AFL growth in NSW seems to irk you eh? Learn to deal with the reality.
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Beaussie wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:44 am
AFL growth in NSW seems to irk you eh? Learn to deal with the reality.
anything showing the AFL growing & becoming more popular crapper has trouble trying to comprehend regardless of where the states of source of news comes from :cheers:

The support base for GWS will only continue to grow like is has done for the swans over the years, its been rather satisfying watching the swans grow from a team struggling for support in the 90s to easily the largest football team in NSW :cheers: so who knows how big GWS can become
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Um it's not reality .
It's propaganda .

How come You never question the figures/bullshit released by AFL house
Even after they've been caught out many time straight out lying

Lol
Is it possible to post real numbers .
Why don't AFL house do that .

lawson explained in his report how they manipulated the figures to mask the real state of the game .
The real interest

Funny how another report was never commissioned .
Funny how he was suddenly on the AFL payroll after exposing the bullshit .
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leagueiscrap wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:06 am
Beaussie wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:44 am
AFL growth in NSW seems to irk you eh? Learn to deal with the reality.
anything showing the AFL growing & becoming more popular crapper has trouble trying to comprehend regardless of where the states of source of news comes from :cheers:
Yep, seems to be the standard response from him and other leaguies struggling to come to terms with reality.
leagueiscrap wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:06 am
The support base for GWS will only continue to grow like is has done for the swans over the years, its been rather satisfying watching the swans grow from a team struggling for support in the 90s to easily the largest football team in NSW :cheers: so who knows how big GWS can become
Who'd ever thought the Swans would become the biggest sporting club in NSW with a membership base approaching 60,000. Amazing to see the continued growth of both the Swans and Giants.
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Lol
lawson exposed the crap
& before one of you feeble minded twits complains that the report is 5 yrs old .
It's the latest report we have ..lol .no others were done ...I wonder why .
Im sure AFL house will never get an independent report done again .
If it happens you can bet it will be done by AFL house .



& if you think the AFL has changed its ways & is actually posting real numbers instead of their bullshit then you are so far removed from reality you need help .
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Blah, blah, blah. Taking your line crapper, the report is 5 years old and came out before the Giants entered the AFL. Oh and it's highlighted by the likes of AFL hating Roy Masters. How can anyone take that shit seriously today?
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Beaussie wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:44 am
Blah, blah, blah. Taking your line crapper, the report is 5 years old and came out before the Giants entered the AFL. Oh and it's highlighted by the likes of AFL hating Roy Masters. How can anyone take that shit seriously today?
Bhaaaaa

It's the latest report available .
It was independent ...not a written script by AFL house
It highlighted the propaganda .
It has nothing to do with ROy MASTERS ,other than he wrote an article about Lawsons findings
So stop deflecting

& accept that propaganda/bullshit is hand in hand with AFL player numbers .

Here you want a link to the report .

http://websites.sportstg.com/get_file.cgi?id=2148289


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I can't find Roy's name on there anywhere .
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No, the latest stats were reported today in the OP.

Again, you just don't like today's reality in NSW:
STATE OF GROWTH

- Sydney Swans membership up 15.7%
- GWS Giants membership up 13.6%
- 2016 NSW/ACT AFL players: 237,549 up (10.4%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT Auskick players: 61,037 (up 18.24%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT AFL 9s players: 7347 (up 12.2%)
- 2016 NSW/ACT female players: 85,919 (up 23%)

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lol stats by a AFL journo about playing numbers .
Very believable going on past history & Lawsons findings .
Can you show me the club numbers for thes 237 k numbers

That would make it something like a touch under 8000 teams in nsw ( about 30 in a team)

Can You also list the woman's teams

The clubs
A at 87 k there should be a massive list of clubs & teams

There should be about 2900 teams .
I'm sure ..lol lol
That a list of these will be easy to put up .
Off ya go
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Beaussie wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:16 am
leagueiscrap wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:06 am
Beaussie wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:44 am
AFL growth in NSW seems to irk you eh? Learn to deal with the reality.
anything showing the AFL growing & becoming more popular crapper has trouble trying to comprehend regardless of where the states of source of news comes from :cheers:
Yep, seems to be the standard response from him and other leaguies struggling to come to terms with reality.
leagueiscrap wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:06 am
The support base for GWS will only continue to grow like is has done for the swans over the years, its been rather satisfying watching the swans grow from a team struggling for support in the 90s to easily the largest football team in NSW :cheers: so who knows how big GWS can become
Who'd ever thought the Swans would become the biggest sporting club in NSW with a membership base approaching 60,000. Amazing to see the continued growth of both the Swans and Giants.
in a city where the NRLOL and aye league aside from the odd occasion cannot get more than a pathetic crowd week in week out the swans dominate :cheers:
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:04 pm
lol stats by a AFL journo about playing numbers .
Very believable going on past history & Lawsons findings .
Can you show me the club numbers for thes 237 k numbers

That would make it something like a touch under 8000 teams in nsw ( about 30 in a team)

Can You also list the woman's teams

The clubs
A at 87 k there should be a massive list of clubs & teams

There should be about 2900 teams .
I'm sure ..lol lol
That a list of these will be easy to put up .
Off ya go
Unless you can't find them because the numbers are bullshit ...& you know it :_<> :_<> :_<>
lies lies lies
NSW keeps producing AFL players so keeds do play AFL spazza!

its funny how you keep rambling on with this report yet ignore all those others pieces of research! ABS, ERASS, roy morgn etc! :thumbleft:

off you go to such on those lemons again :wave:
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AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:04 pm
lol stats by a AFL journo about playing numbers .
Very believable going on past history & Lawsons findings .
Can you show me the club numbers for thes 237 k numbers

That would make it something like a touch under 8000 teams in nsw ( about 30 in a team)

Can You also list the woman's teams

The clubs
A at 87 k there should be a massive list of clubs & teams

There should be about 2900 teams .
I'm sure ..lol lol
That a list of these will be easy to put up .
Off ya go
Unless you can't find them because the numbers are bullshit ...& you know it :_<> :_<> :_<>
lies lies lies
NSW keeps producing AFL players so keeds do play AFL spazza!

its funny how you keep rambling on with this report yet ignore all those others pieces of research! ABS, ERASS, roy morgn etc! :thumbleft:

off you go to such on those lemons again :wave:
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leagueiscrap wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:11 pm
AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:04 pm
lol stats by a AFL journo about playing numbers .
Very believable going on past history & Lawsons findings .
Can you show me the club numbers for thes 237 k numbers

That would make it something like a touch under 8000 teams in nsw ( about 30 in a team)

Can You also list the woman's teams

The clubs
A at 87 k there should be a massive list of clubs & teams

There should be about 2900 teams .
I'm sure ..lol lol
That a list of these will be easy to put up .
Off ya go
Unless you can't find them because the numbers are bullshit ...& you know it :_<> :_<> :_<>
lies lies lies
NSW keeps producing AFL players so keeds do play AFL spazza!

its funny how you keep rambling on with this report yet ignore all those others pieces of research! ABS, ERASS, roy morgn etc! :thumbleft:

off you go to such on those lemons again :wave:
Oh my
Can you show where I said kids in NSW don't play AFL .
So your first sentence was a reply to something that was never posted
So you're straight back into the bullshit posting .
Good work ..at least you're consistent .

& once again you are quoting from Roy Morgan ...lol
As for the other two .IIRC you posted data from about 8 yrs ago .
Lol

Why not something recent .
I'm sure the ABS would have something recent .

Not like the AFL who decided a report that told the truth would not be done again .

Lol
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