Real courage

[piesman2011]

Imo Aussie rules is the only ball sport that I know, in which you can show true courage. I'm not talking about toughness, or strength, or tenacity or going toe to toe punching some guy in the head but put your body on the line with no real idea of what might happen courage.
Today one of the most courageous players to played the game retired because he was told that he had to by medical staff because he kept time after time putting his body on the line.
Jonathan Brown was truly courageous. Here is a few of his greatest hits.

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=10o9oR3TxUs[/video]

This first one he did after coming back from facial surgery, in what was described as being similar to an injury suffered in a car accident in which he was out for 17 weeks He got straight back on the horse and broke his face again putting himself out for the rest of the season.


[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m6pt_Gb401I[/video]

This one shows his 2002 Mark of the year at the start

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWElLOx1QEc[/video]

This one shows him winning the 2011 most courageous player of the year and what he went through to win it.

[pHyR3]

"Today one of the most courageous players to played the game retired because he was told that he had to by medical staff because he kept time after time putting his body on the line."

So you mean like exactly what is happening with Liam Fulton right now? Numerous concussions from putting his body on the line means he'll probably have to retire. Always punched above his weight, averaged 40+ tackles a game in many seasons despite being at a significant weight disadvantage.

[Swans4ever]

I don't want to down play any players contribution to their game - to both have a great retirement you've earned it!

[piesman2011]

"Today one of the most courageous players to played the game retired because he was told that he had to by medical staff because he kept time after time putting his body on the line."

So you mean like exactly what is happening with Liam Fulton right now? Numerous concussions from putting his body on the line means he'll probably have to retire. Always punched above his weight, averaged 40+ tackles a game in many seasons despite being at a significant weight disadvantage.

Now i don't know anything about Liam. However im sure he is a tenacious and tough player who never gave up and applied tackle after tackle. I'm sure he copped knees and elbows to the head on many occasions and suffered many concussions because of it. However due to the mechanics of the game of RL, I doubt he has the opportunity to do what Jonathan Brown has done.
Have a look at the clips. Mostly the first and the last one and tell me what you think. Do RL players have the opportunity to run at full pace with your eyes to the sky tracking the ball, while other blokes are possibly running at you from the other direction with eyes on the ball. By keeping your eyes on the ball you have no idea what is coming so you are taking a big risk and players are not expected to do this. In fact most coaches would prefer that their players don't do this because there is a much safer and equally valid way to get the ball, by waiting at the front of the pack. But Jonathan Brown was the sort of bloke that would put his body on the line every time. Even after he totally wrecked (and i mean messed it up like he had been flung out of a car) his face, he came back and did it again and again.
Now no doubt Liam Fulton also put his body on the line, but was what he did as dangerous as what Brown did? Did Liam have a choice if he wanted to keep playing RL? Was it beyond what was expected of him? Or did he just do what he was payed to do? Now I'm not trying to be rude im just just asking questions.
Another way to put it would be to ask can a soccer player show how hard he can tackle a guy into the ground? (I mean tackle in the sense that you grab a guy and throw him into the ground?) The answer is no. In the same way a RL player can't show the type of courage that Brown has show on the field. It's not a mechanic that the game of RL has.

[piesman2011]

Here is another one. Look at the guy running in the same direction as the ball. He is in black and white colours.

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz3iUe-CpRA[/video]

Now if doing that isn't showing courage, show me something from your sport that shows more guts.

[King-Eliagh]

Seriously pies, quote ignorant of you to assume marngrook is the only sport to require true courage

[piesman2011]

Seriously pies, quote ignorant of you to assume marngrook is the only sport to require true courage

I said ball sport. But I'm happy for you to enlighten me with some examples of RL courage. Is this where you talk about simply being on the field with Hoppoate is courageous, because he doesn't play any more in the NRL.

[Swans4ever]

Might be when Joel Monaghan is around your dog!

[Beaussie]

Browny = a true legend with real courage as you put it pies. Gonna miss seeing him in action.

[AFLcrap1]

Might be when Joel Monaghan is around your dog!

Or Gary "GOD" Ablett AROUND SOMEONES DAUGHTER.

[Swans4ever]

Might be when Joel Monaghan is around your dog!

Or Gary "GOD" Ablett AROUND SOMEONES DAUGHTER.

?????????

[King-Eliagh]

Wow I just checked the vids. Courage? No. I think in brownies case you had examples of freak accidents, bad decisions and a general awkwardness and lack of coordination which caused brownie to be in dumb positions.

Courage is not getting yourself in some freak accident, nor should courage be used to describe clumsiness. No. The concept of courage is accurately reflected in this champion.

[video]http://youtu.be/x7oAM4xn67s[/video]

Yep the rl fella stays on the field that's real courage. Courage comes from within. It's consciously confronting what many would whimper away from. Like when I played a half if footy with a broken wrist. :D Brown just got himself into bad positions.

Please folks, learn the definition of courage and use it appropriately from now on.

Thanks guys.

[piesman2011]

Wow I just checked the vids. Courage? No. I think in brownies case you had examples of freak accidents, bad decisions and a general awkwardness and lack of coordination which caused brownie to be in dumb positions.

Courage is not getting yourself in some freak accident, nor should courage be used to describe clumsiness. No. The concept of courage is accurately reflected in this champion.

[video]http://youtu.be/x7oAM4xn67s[/video]

Yep the rl fella stays on the field that's real courage. Courage comes from within. It's consciously confronting what many would whimper away from. Like when I played a half if footy with a broken wrist. :D Brown just got himself into bad positions.

Please folks, learn the definition of courage and use it appropriately from now on.

Thanks guys.

I think Brown took risks with his body no doubt. But to put in down to general awkwardness and clumsiness is poor form. The fact the Brown despite his history kept playing how he did despite the risks shows true courage.

Getting a bit old with your videos there mate. So he broke his jaw and stayed on the field 40 years ago did he? So you broke your wrist and kept playing? Well if so good for you, however that sort of thing happens every week. Here's a similar one that happened literally last week in the AFL.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/AFL/m ... f322a90a45

Happens quite often. Perhaps you have something more recent and a bit more inspiring for me. Perhaps something the great Hayne did recently.

[Swans4ever]

Wow I just checked the vids. Courage? No. I think in brownies case you had examples of freak accidents, bad decisions and a general awkwardness and lack of coordination which caused brownie to be in dumb positions.

Courage is not getting yourself in some freak accident, nor should courage be used to describe clumsiness. No. The concept of courage is accurately reflected in this champion.

[video]http://youtu.be/x7oAM4xn67s[/video]

Yep the rl fella stays on the field that's real courage. Courage comes from within. It's consciously confronting what many would whimper away from. Like when I played a half if footy with a broken wrist. :D Brown just got himself into bad positions.

Please folks, learn the definition of courage and use it appropriately from now on.

Thanks guys.

Was that the same year you came down with the Ebola virus and beat it, or the year you had SARS but still managed to climb Everest!!! Or when he got the bends diving on the titanic or rescued Price Harry in Afghanistan - what a trooper!!!!!! Our FIGJAM!

[King-Eliagh]

Jealousy's a real curse swines, sorry for ya mate. Just get out there and do something with yer life and you'll feel better.

Pies yes now you are describing courage more accurately than in the vids you chose. For him to come back and play was somewhat courageous.

If you knew what it was like to be in a rl defensive line you'd know it takes courage each and every time you gotta meet your opponent and put him down. Then you got fullbacks who throw their body in front of 110kg athletes who break the line and try to run over the top of you and take the high ball under serious physical pressure. I'm sorry folks but rl is the more courageous game. Browny? Just bad luck a lack of onfield vision and a smidgen of courage compared to your avg nrl player. Sorry guys but it's true