Cronulla just go from bad to worse

[Swans4ever]

Oh dear - the failure of the NRL to ensue their players co-operate with ASADA earlier in the season means the whole NRL finals series could become a farce! As they stumble from bad to worse Essendon's woes appear to be evaporating - time will tell for Cronulla being a club thats a basket case financially and now their only hope of finals being their saving grace quickley evaporating! This club is f**ked!


Cronulla Sharks faced disqualification from NRL competition weeks after ASADA launched investigation
Josh Massoud and James Hooper
The Daily Telegraph
August 06, 2013 11:00PM
CRONULLA officials were in frantic negotiations with the NRL to avoid the prospect of disqualification just a month after the ASADA investigation was launched.

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The Daily Telegraph has sighted correspondence between Sharks officials and NRL boss Dave Smith, which revealed the club's desire to stand down all affected coaching staff and players prior to round one.

Cronulla were of a belief that if any of the affected persons were later found guilty of an anti-doping violation, the club could be exposed to retrospective loss of competition points or wholesale disqualification.

The Sharks even went as far as to seek assurances from Smith against any such penalties.


"On the basis this is achieved and the ASADA affected players are removed from or playing ranks, then it is in the best interests of rehabilitation of the club that we obtain an assurance from the NRL that season 2013 will not be subject of future penalties or sanctions arising from this matter," the Sharks wrote in early March.

"We seek this assurance from the NRL in advance of (round one) so it can be communicated to our supporters and season seat holders."

The secret negotiations have emerged as the AFL considers whether to disqualify Essendon prior to the finals.

The NRL last night confirmed all options were being entertained, but that no decision would be made until ASADA finalises its report into the Sharks.

Interviews with 11 Cronulla players over the club's 2011 supplement program only re-commenced yesterday and won't be completed until August 28.

The NRL finals start a fortnight later, meaning there's virtually zero chance that any findings into Cronulla will be made before the season's biggest games.

Currently sixth, the Sharks need just two wins from their remaining five matches to be assure a top eight finish.

But a disturbing can of worms could be opened should ASADA find any coaching staff or players guilty of anti-doping violations that support a case of systemic drug use at the club in 2011.

Under that scenario, the NRL would be under enormous pressure to not issue infraction notices against individuals but only penalise the club as a whole.

And because the penalty would be applied retrospectively, it would come as no consolation to the ninth-placed team that missed-out or any sides that Cronulla might eliminate during the finals series itself.

Over the past week, Cronulla has done little to endear itself to the NRL.

The club's new board re-instated sacked trainer Mark Noakes against Smith's wishes, while skipper Paul Gallen this week bemoaned the level of support from the NRL.

NRL insiders found Gallen's comments curious, given he recently engaged an independent lawyer. The NRL claims it has been helping Cronulla fund the players' legal representative, Richard Redman.

But the NRL has otherwise kept a much greater distance from the ASADA probe than their AFL counterparts in Melbourne.

First, the AFL and ASADA reached a written understanding that contemplated Essendon players escaping ban under the "No Fault or Negligence" defence.

Smith was furious when he learned of the unilateral negotiations, which were immediately ceased in favour of a set of equal conditions for both codes.

Next, the AFL has attended all ASADA interviews while the NRL was not present when Sharks back rower Wade Graham was questioned in April. That absence has now been addressed for the second round of interviews.

But the most striking difference is the timing.

The deliverance of the interim findings into Essendon has given AFL boss Andrew Demetriou an entire month to decide Essendon's fate, while keeping in mind the sanctity of his code's finals series.

Because their clubs and players failed to co-operate the first time around, Smith and the NRL don't enjoy the same luxury.

[cos789]

Because leaguies are devoid of grey matter they cannot see the imminent tide of devastion slowly approaching.
The AFL will in all probability bring down a decision before the AFL finals.
The nrl, well, is in a state of total confusion. it's impossible for the nrl to come up with a decision soon.
So this saga will drag on into next year, possibly making retrospective decisions and making a farce of this year's competion and 2014's competition.
The drama that is going on atm in the AFL is only a fration of what the nrl is going to experience.
As everybody in the AFL has said , the sooner the decision the better.
The nrl says it's decision is to procrastinate.

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[Raiderdave]

Oh dear - the failure of the NRL to ensue their players co-operate with ASADA earlier in the season means the whole NRL finals series could become a farce! As they stumble from bad to worse Essendon's woes appear to be evaporating - time will tell for Cronulla being a club thats a basket case financially and now their only hope of finals being their saving grace quickley evaporating! This club is f**ked!


Cronulla Sharks faced disqualification from NRL competition weeks after ASADA launched investigation
Josh Massoud and James Hooper
The Daily Telegraph
August 06, 2013 11:00PM
CRONULLA officials were in frantic negotiations with the NRL to avoid the prospect of disqualification just a month after the ASADA investigation was launched.

Please install the latest Flash player

The Daily Telegraph has sighted correspondence between Sharks officials and NRL boss Dave Smith, which revealed the club's desire to stand down all affected coaching staff and players prior to round one.

Cronulla were of a belief that if any of the affected persons were later found guilty of an anti-doping violation, the club could be exposed to retrospective loss of competition points or wholesale disqualification.

The Sharks even went as far as to seek assurances from Smith against any such penalties.


"On the basis this is achieved and the ASADA affected players are removed from or playing ranks, then it is in the best interests of rehabilitation of the club that we obtain an assurance from the NRL that season 2013 will not be subject of future penalties or sanctions arising from this matter," the Sharks wrote in early March.

"We seek this assurance from the NRL in advance of (round one) so it can be communicated to our supporters and season seat holders."

The secret negotiations have emerged as the AFL considers whether to disqualify Essendon prior to the finals.

The NRL last night confirmed all options were being entertained, but that no decision would be made until ASADA finalises its report into the Sharks.

Interviews with 11 Cronulla players over the club's 2011 supplement program only re-commenced yesterday and won't be completed until August 28.

The NRL finals start a fortnight later, meaning there's virtually zero chance that any findings into Cronulla will be made before the season's biggest games.

Currently sixth, the Sharks need just two wins from their remaining five matches to be assure a top eight finish.

But a disturbing can of worms could be opened should ASADA find any coaching staff or players guilty of anti-doping violations that support a case of systemic drug use at the club in 2011.

Under that scenario, the NRL would be under enormous pressure to not issue infraction notices against individuals but only penalise the club as a whole.

And because the penalty would be applied retrospectively, it would come as no consolation to the ninth-placed team that missed-out or any sides that Cronulla might eliminate during the finals series itself.

Over the past week, Cronulla has done little to endear itself to the NRL.

The club's new board re-instated sacked trainer Mark Noakes against Smith's wishes, while skipper Paul Gallen this week bemoaned the level of support from the NRL.

NRL insiders found Gallen's comments curious, given he recently engaged an independent lawyer. The NRL claims it has been helping Cronulla fund the players' legal representative, Richard Redman.

But the NRL has otherwise kept a much greater distance from the ASADA probe than their AFL counterparts in Melbourne.

First, the AFL and ASADA reached a written understanding that contemplated Essendon players escaping ban under the "No Fault or Negligence" defence.

Smith was furious when he learned of the unilateral negotiations, which were immediately ceased in favour of a set of equal conditions for both codes.

Next, the AFL has attended all ASADA interviews while the NRL was not present when Sharks back rower Wade Graham was questioned in April. That absence has now been addressed for the second round of interviews.

But the most striking difference is the timing.

The deliverance of the interim findings into Essendon has given AFL boss Andrew Demetriou an entire month to decide Essendon's fate, while keeping in mind the sanctity of his code's finals series.

Because their clubs and players failed to co-operate the first time around, Smith and the NRL don't enjoy the same luxury.

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the Sharks are fine
they have admitted nothing ... & ASADA can't prove any wrong doing took place


Essenminda has admitted to breaking the law
if they are not kicked out of the 2013 comp.... it will be the end of this bumbling trash sport
& the sliver ... the miniscule microscopic dot .. of integrity the VFL has left .. will be gone

I dare the fucking slimebags to do nothing

I fucking dare them !!

[Drac]

let me gaze into my crystal ball:

Cronulla drowns in debt, NRL can't afford to bail out the sharks, and also doesn't want to.
Sharks either kicked from the comp for Perth Pirates or relocated to Perth.
Phil Rothfield, bitter and angry, starts a campaign to get Sharks fans to become Swans members
Perth team, rushed with no adequate planning or support, becomes the financial suckhole that throwballers believe GWS and the Suns are.
AFL rides wave of disatisfaction in Cronulla to become king of the Shire.

[Raiderdave]

let me gaze into my crystal ball:

Cronulla drowns in debt, NRL can't afford to bail out the sharks, and also doesn't want to.
Sharks either kicked from the comp for Perth Pirates or relocated to Perth.
Phil Rothfield, bitter and angry, starts a campaign to get Sharks fans to become Swans members
Perth team, rushed with no adequate planning or support, becomes the financial suckhole that throwballers believe GWS and the Suns are.
AFL rides wave of disatisfaction in Cronulla to become king of the Shire.

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yes
then yr mum wlks into yr room

oh fuck not again

bill
we're gunna need a hose n a mop n bucket in here ...... again !!
hes been wanking off dreaming about the NRL's demise again

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[Swans4ever]

Oh dear - the failure of the NRL to ensue their players co-operate with ASADA earlier in the season means the whole NRL finals series could become a farce! As they stumble from bad to worse Essendon's woes appear to be evaporating - time will tell for Cronulla being a club thats a basket case financially and now their only hope of finals being their saving grace quickley evaporating! This club is f**ked!


Cronulla Sharks faced disqualification from NRL competition weeks after ASADA launched investigation
Josh Massoud and James Hooper
The Daily Telegraph
August 06, 2013 11:00PM
CRONULLA officials were in frantic negotiations with the NRL to avoid the prospect of disqualification just a month after the ASADA investigation was launched.

Please install the latest Flash player

The Daily Telegraph has sighted correspondence between Sharks officials and NRL boss Dave Smith, which revealed the club's desire to stand down all affected coaching staff and players prior to round one.

Cronulla were of a belief that if any of the affected persons were later found guilty of an anti-doping violation, the club could be exposed to retrospective loss of competition points or wholesale disqualification.

The Sharks even went as far as to seek assurances from Smith against any such penalties.


"On the basis this is achieved and the ASADA affected players are removed from or playing ranks, then it is in the best interests of rehabilitation of the club that we obtain an assurance from the NRL that season 2013 will not be subject of future penalties or sanctions arising from this matter," the Sharks wrote in early March.

"We seek this assurance from the NRL in advance of (round one) so it can be communicated to our supporters and season seat holders."

The secret negotiations have emerged as the AFL considers whether to disqualify Essendon prior to the finals.

The NRL last night confirmed all options were being entertained, but that no decision would be made until ASADA finalises its report into the Sharks.

Interviews with 11 Cronulla players over the club's 2011 supplement program only re-commenced yesterday and won't be completed until August 28.

The NRL finals start a fortnight later, meaning there's virtually zero chance that any findings into Cronulla will be made before the season's biggest games.

Currently sixth, the Sharks need just two wins from their remaining five matches to be assure a top eight finish.

But a disturbing can of worms could be opened should ASADA find any coaching staff or players guilty of anti-doping violations that support a case of systemic drug use at the club in 2011.

Under that scenario, the NRL would be under enormous pressure to not issue infraction notices against individuals but only penalise the club as a whole.

And because the penalty would be applied retrospectively, it would come as no consolation to the ninth-placed team that missed-out or any sides that Cronulla might eliminate during the finals series itself.

Over the past week, Cronulla has done little to endear itself to the NRL.

The club's new board re-instated sacked trainer Mark Noakes against Smith's wishes, while skipper Paul Gallen this week bemoaned the level of support from the NRL.

NRL insiders found Gallen's comments curious, given he recently engaged an independent lawyer. The NRL claims it has been helping Cronulla fund the players' legal representative, Richard Redman.

But the NRL has otherwise kept a much greater distance from the ASADA probe than their AFL counterparts in Melbourne.

First, the AFL and ASADA reached a written understanding that contemplated Essendon players escaping ban under the "No Fault or Negligence" defence.

Smith was furious when he learned of the unilateral negotiations, which were immediately ceased in favour of a set of equal conditions for both codes.

Next, the AFL has attended all ASADA interviews while the NRL was not present when Sharks back rower Wade Graham was questioned in April. That absence has now been addressed for the second round of interviews.

But the most striking difference is the timing.

The deliverance of the interim findings into Essendon has given AFL boss Andrew Demetriou an entire month to decide Essendon's fate, while keeping in mind the sanctity of his code's finals series.

Because their clubs and players failed to co-operate the first time around, Smith and the NRL don't enjoy the same luxury.

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the Sharks are fine
they have admitted nothing ... & ASADA can't prove any wrong doing took place


Essenminda has admitted to breaking the law
if they are not kicked out of the 2013 comp.... it will be the end of this bumbling trash sport
& the sliver ... the miniscule microscopic dot .. of integrity the VFL has left .. will be gone

I dare the fucking slimebags to do nothing

I fucking dare them !!

And what - what are you going to do - you are as meaningless as that fat Christian wanker you quoted - what are you going to do RD - tell us all! You can't even admit your wrong your such a coward - you scare no one after all you are a coward! C'mon have a crack tell us what your going to do?????? Hahahaha

[ParraEelsNRL]

Cronulla own their own ground with land surrounding the area worth millions, they are going nowhere.

Now lets put them up against any team from NSW and QLD in the VFL.

How many of the Vfl grounds in NSW/QLD do the Vfl or clubs own?

None.

How many of the clubs are the Vfl helping financially?

All 4 of them.

Which Vfl clubs up North are losing money hand over fist and have needed propping up for 30 years?

The Vfl clubs.

Which clubs North of the Murray will need propping up for the next 30 years?

All 4?

Stick your head in the sand swans4never, you're a dumb fuck that's for sure.

[cos789]

Cronulla own their own ground with land surrounding the area worth millions,

Yes and it may be enough to pay off their debts.

[cos789]

they are going nowhere.

Then why are they continually linked to Perth???????

[ParraEelsNRL]

Are they?

LOL, only by trolls of other teams or other sports.

Find me 1 article that states Cronulla will be moving, just 1 from the people in charge.

[ParraEelsNRL]

Yep, run along coward.

All talk no substance.

[Swans4ever]

Cronulla own their own ground with land surrounding the area worth millions, they are going nowhere.

Now lets put them up against any team from NSW and QLD in the VFL.

How many of the Vfl grounds in NSW/QLD do the Vfl or clubs own?

None.

How many of the clubs are the Vfl helping financially?

All 4 of them.

Which Vfl clubs up North are losing money hand over fist and have needed propping up for 30 years?

The Vfl clubs.

Which clubs North of the Murray will need propping up for the next 30 years?

All 4?

Stick your head in the sand swans4never, you're a dumb fuck that's for sure.

How about you get your facts right Parra the Swans turned a profit last year and the year before - you are just as stupid as RD - sounds like sour grapes How the Eels going - the A-League will soon be taking over your ground won't they you know the Wanders - it will be the first time this year a crowd has turned up at that stadium to watch a game of any code! Anyway the Swans are STILL the BIGGEST club in Sydney and like most RL fans you just can't deal with that fact can you Eels! Instead you have to try and draw a negative to feel better about your club - meanwhile the Swans will play in finals and still be number one in Sydney - hahaha! Suffer!

[ParraEelsNRL]

Cronulla own their own ground with land surrounding the area worth millions,

Yes and it may be enough to pay off their debts.

LOL, hundreds of millions is not enough to pay a few mill they'll find buried out back in the swamp somewhere?

You're too funny cuz, way to funny.

[ParraEelsNRL]

LOl, the sawns4never fan is going on about a few k profit

[Swans4ever]

LOl, the sawns4never fan is going on about a few k profit

So you going to Man up and admit you were wrong about the Swans and haven't made a profit in 30 yrs or are you going to be like RD and be a coward?