RUGBY LEAGUE SHOWS WHY IT JUST CAN'T GOVERN IT'S CODE

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After Melbourne Storm one would think that RL clubs had learn't their lesson - unfortunately alas it's not to be - their clubs continue to cheat and break the rules. Again however the NRL drops the ball - no loss of premiership points. So gung ho with Melbourne Storm, they now show their true colours and hit the offending clubs with a lettuce leaf. This game is still just the NSWRL and should drop the national from it's title. A joke of a league, with Cronulla not co-operating with ASADA and refusing to talk one can only assume that they will deal with the serious drug allegations with an equally incompetent way. NRL = NSWRL!

Clubs fined over NRL salary cap breaches
By Steve Jancetic Friday, July 05, 2013 4:14:27 PM. The NRL's salary cap review can't come soon enough after seven clubs were on Friday slapped with fines totalling more than half a million dollars for a range of cap breaches in 2012. Cronulla and Canberra were hit the hardest with fines of $150,000 and $144,393 respectively, while Newcastle ($88,749) and Manly ($85,000) were also slugged significant amounts. Gold Coast ($16,217), Sydney Roosters ($14,348) and Parramatta ($4,700) were the other clubs penalised. The Raiders have vowed to challenge the fine claiming injuries last season left them with little option but to upgrade a number of younger players' contracts. The draconian nature of the salary cap has come under fire in recent weeks with several clubs saying they have been forced to hold back promising juniors from playing in the top grade for fear of being fined by the league. Penrith fullback Matt Moylan was last month banned from playing in the NRL, when the injured player he had been called up to replace - Wes Naiqama - was again available for selection. The Panthers have also been restricted from handing a debut to young sensation Bryce Cartwright, while Wests Tigers are reportedly seeking permission from the NRL to use boom youngster Luke Brooks over the closing stages of the season. The NRL has in effect admitted its salary cap laws are outdated by ordering a total review of the way in which clubs are allowed to pay players, with many clubs critical of the lack of flexibility. The same stringent rules also cost the NRL the services of Wallabies winger Israel Folau, who turned down a return to the code with Parramatta due to salary cap complications. The Raiders last year lost key players Terry Campese (seven games played) and Brett White (five games played) for a large portion of the season. "We were aware of our overspend in both first tier and second tier salary caps however we will be lodging an appeal in the size of the fines and we're confident in that appeal," Raiders chief executive Don Furner said in a statement. "This overspend related to representative bonuses, and payments to players outside the top 25 to cover long term injuries. "In 2012 we had to activate a number of clauses in younger players' contracts, as we needed to fill the positions left vacant by long term injuries to our top squad." Cronulla said their breaches related to confusion regarding the application of third party sponsorships and marquee player allowances. Any changes to salary cap legislation will not come into effect until at least 2014. NRL chief operating officer Jim Doyle said the fact the league was reviewing the cap did not impact on the current policing of the system."This closeness of the competition over many years is tied directly to the fair and consistent enforcement of the salary cap rules and the effectiveness of the annual audit process," Doyle said.
"The fact that we are looking to review the cap going forward does not in any way alter the importance of clubs complying with the rules as they stand presently."
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Breaching the salary cap in the nRL is just the norm. Happens every year and all they get is a little fine. Absolutely disgraceful league with no integrity.
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Stewie wrote:
Breaching the salary cap in the nRL is just the norm. Happens every year and all they get is a little fine. Absolutely disgraceful league with no integrity.
no you know how it works stewie, its only disgraceful if its in the AFL, its totally acceptable in the NRL, apparently :?>
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :(/

OMG

is this ****** serious ? :[]

the Swines have rorted the VFL salary cap for 30 years
to the tune of


$30 MILLION DOLLARS

:shock:


the VFL allows it to give a false ... & manipulated sense of this codes success outside of its heartland

& the dopey fucks who follow this .... nothing is as it seems code

are ok with it :?>

now the Midgets & THuns are in on the act
using VFL money that belongs to all clubs to poach talent off other VFL clubs in the heatland who aren't allowed to spend as much as the waste of space clubs in NSW & QLD
& theres talk that the Demons will soon be allowed to spend more then everyone else that's left


NRL clubs breaches are chicken feed & mainly lower tier mis calculations
they pale into insignificance against the state sanctioned rorting of the cap by some slimebag clubs in the VFL [-X [-X [-( [-( [-(
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
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Raiderdave wrote:

NRL clubs breaches are chicken feed & mainly lower tier mis calculations
Every year it happens :lol:

I wouldn't be surprised if those mindas don't know how to work a fucking calculator though :wink:
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Raiderdave wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :(/ :(/ :(/

OMG

is this ****** serious ? :[]

the Swines have rorted the VFL salary cap for 30 years
to the tune of


$30 MILLION DOLLARS

:shock:


the VFL allows it to give a false ... & manipulated sense of this codes success outside of its heartland

& the dopey fucks who follow this .... nothing is as it seems code

are ok with it :?>

now the Midgets & THuns are in on the act
using VFL money that belongs to all clubs to poach talent off other VFL clubs in the heatland who aren't allowed to spend as much as the waste of space clubs in NSW & QLD
& theres talk that the Demons will soon be allowed to spend more then everyone else that's left


NRL clubs breaches are chicken feed & mainly lower tier mis calculations
they pale into insignificance against the state sanctioned rorting of the cap by some slimebag clubs in the VFL [-X [-X [-( [-( [-(
Any chance of a link to this so called rorting RD or is it imaginary as usual! Just STFU unless you have proof otherwise your just spouting shit!
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Lol... Raiderdave just makes things up Pmsl. But he believes it is true lol. Swans get shit crowds and nrl hugh crowds in Dave's world lol
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He feels that the extra money the Sydney swans players get for cost of living expenses is breaching the salary cap. He also makes up numbers like a million a year for 30 years, like there was a salary cap 30 years ago (been in place for 26 years) or that the salary cap was as large 30 years ago as it is today (total cap for example was 1.25 million a club for the first 3 years). Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave.
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Stewie wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:

NRL clubs breaches are chicken feed & mainly lower tier mis calculations
Every year it happens :lol:

I wouldn't be surprised if those mindas don't know how to work a fucking calculator though :wink:

you wanna go there fuckwit ?
a fan of a club who can't work out what 1 + 1 is :?>
:[]
:lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :(/ :(/ :(/


where'd all our money go ? 8-[

I mean
we have 40K members ... apparently :roll:
& we STILL make losses that a sthn European country would blush at :(/ :(/ :(/


another 5 million dollar loss on the way for the worst run club in Australian sport :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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piesman2011 wrote:
He feels that the extra money the Sydney swans players get for cost of living expenses is breaching the salary cap. He also makes up numbers like a million a year for 30 years, like there was a salary cap 30 years ago (been in place for 26 years) or that the salary cap was as large 30 years ago as it is today (total cap for example was 1.25 million a club for the first 3 years). Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave.

but but

but but but


fact is
the VFL allows clubs to rort Its cap with its blessing provided you have a 2... or a 4 as the first letter on yr postcode
on top of this
they allow clubs to rort the draft as well , meaning struggling clubs in the heartland will continue to struggle for years

the 2 corner stones of equality in this comp
are being compromised badly

its vomit inducing
sickening :-+

the dumbest sports fans on the planet are oblivious
they just :>:: :>:: :>:: :>::
gee
why is my team not improving ? :?>

a boiled egg has more awareness :lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :(/ :(/ :(/
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
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Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

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Raiderdave wrote:
Stewie wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:

NRL clubs breaches are chicken feed & mainly lower tier mis calculations
Every year it happens :lol:

I wouldn't be surprised if those mindas don't know how to work a fucking calculator though :wink:

you wanna go there fuckwit ?
a fan of a club who can't work out what 1 + 1 is :?>
:[]
:lol: :lol: :_<> :_<> :(/ :(/ :(/


where'd all our money go ? 8-[

I mean
we have 40K members ... apparently :roll:
& we STILL make losses that a sthn European country would blush at :(/ :(/ :(/


another 5 million dollar loss on the way for the worst run club in Australian sport :cool:
With someone with their head in the sand like you RD it's no wonder your code can't outgrow NSW in any serious way
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piesman2011 wrote:
He feels that the extra money the Sydney swans players get for cost of living expenses is breaching the salary cap. He also makes up numbers like a million a year for 30 years, like there was a salary cap 30 years ago (been in place for 26 years) or that the salary cap was as large 30 years ago as it is today (total cap for example was 1.25 million a club for the first 3 years). Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave.
Also the cost of living allowance has been relatively new addition to the salary cap.
And also the Swans have not used this extra allowance regularly just because they can.
Nice try Cos.
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Pretty easy to fix. Clubs just need to pay 95% of the salary cap (not exact figure) and leave the rest for promotion of junoir players. If you don't do this then you can't promote players. The other option is that you leave the promoted players payments out of the cap. Not a big deal these cap breaches, just funny and ironic the way some go on about the AFL.
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Dave, is your surname Allen by any chance? You're a joke. Show us with links where exactly the Swans have breached the salary cap. None of this "1 + 1 = 2" crapola. You have proof? Show it to us! In detail!
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piesman2011 wrote:
He feels that the extra money the Sydney swans players get for cost of living expenses is breaching the salary cap. He also makes up numbers like a million a year for 30 years, like there was a salary cap 30 years ago (been in place for 26 years) or that the salary cap was as large 30 years ago as it is today (total cap for example was 1.25 million a club for the first 3 years). Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave.
Pies can you name another code in the entire world that has a cost of living attachment to their cap system? IE salary cap rorting made legal by the governing sports body(AFLHQ)??????? Hello Pies awake yet............... :[] :[] :[]

Only the stupid brainwashed fans of the AFL like yourself cant see that this is to make expansion teams successful at the expense of its heartland clubs....... :(/ :(/ :(/

AFL create rules which gives incentive's to tanking..............




i think i will post this from a Carlton supporter of all people of BF.....................he is not a blind marino like yourself Pies......... :salute: :salute:


I’ve created a new thread as this is directed at the league and game as a whole as distinct from one particular incident.

As a long-time passionate football supporter I've never had less confidence in the game and where it's heading. A regular stream of outrageous decisions and explanations from league headquarters has made me question how much I can continue take from this obviously corrupt organisation.

In the last 12 months alone we've had to deal with:

- The premiership team, aided by over a million dollars more in the salary cap, being the only team able to afford the most valuable player in the trade period
- That same club getting a critical extra (undeserved) days break before the Grand Final over the minor premier, going against all accepted rules
- A team breaks the strict salary cap rules (even going so far as to write it into a contract) and is allowed to dictate their own punishment
- A team found "not guilty" of tanking is fined half a million dollars for tanking and key figures are suspended
- That same team being considered for a special one-off priority pick despite the priority pick being scrapped, at the expense of other rebuilding teams
- The same club, again, having to seek league approval for the removal and replacement of key figures in both administrative and football operations
- A team under investigation for performance enhancing drug use still eligible, over halfway through the following season, to compete for the premiership
- The ludicrous inconsistencies with regard to rule interpretation, compounded by the half-baked explanations given for decisions
- Those same inconsistencies arising from week to week at the tribunal and MRP
- The farce that is the goal review system more often than not coming to the incorrect conclusion
- The continual manipulation of the draw to the detriment of fairness
- The extravagant concessions given to the expansion clubs, and the buying power (AFL funded) of those clubs to purchase the best players via free agency
- Ridiculous inconsistencies in the application of the clash jumper doctrine

The then VFL and the newly formed commission may well have saved the game as a major interest in this country in the mid 1980’s, but we’re now forced to accept anything from them as the clubs themselves have no real power whatsoever.

I’m not suggesting that the AFL has done nothing right. Membership, participation, television and attendance figures are testament to the fact that they clearly have. Yet an uneasy feeling about the whole show persists.

The next few years are critical in terms of decision making at the top, not just for the integrity of the game, but the gumption of the number one stakeholder – the supporters.

How much more can we take?

If you would like to read more here it is......http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/h ... l.1014849/

BF members are not as brainwashed as you TF AFL fans............... :\: :\:
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