After Essington are punted...

[Rabbit]

Who will XMAN follow?

How about the Greater Western Eastern Northern Southern Prague-Canberra-Nauru-ANZAC Bridge Brave Giants?

[Xman]

Who will XMAN follow?

How about the Greater Western Eastern Northern Southern Prague-Canberra-Nauru-ANZAC Bridge Brave Giants?

They won't be

‘‘It may well be scientists and lawyers at 20 paces,’’ says former ASADA chief Richard Ings.
Cronulla appears to be in a far worse state than Essendon, given its players’ use of substances provided by Dank and which ASADA is adamant, despite Dank’s denials, are banned. In relation to the Bombers’ use of AOD, even ASADA’s internal advice suggests the doping case around the drug is weak.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/game-cha ... z2Qbs6xgms

Not sure about the sharks though

[Stewie]

Yes, the second biggest club in Australia will be punted... idiot.

[Fred]

Pies being the biggest of course ,.. Just saying lol

[Xman]

Pies being the biggest of course ,.. Just saying lol

Dont think that even needed to be said

[Rabbit]

Who are these pies you speak of?

[Raiderdave]

Who are these pies you speak of?

collingdon

ah.... collinscat ?

collinscar

collin...... oh F'd if I know

some self annoited world famous Melbourne suburb .. that barely anyone knows of... outside of vicky kicky land

[Drac]

Essendon will never be booted. If Cronulla get done by ASADA though, and the nRL relocate them to Perth, Swans will helicopter in membership recruiters and take the Shire like they took the North Shore after the Bears were punted. They'll ride a wave of spite and anger towards the nRL, and Perth won't accept someone else's garbage.

[Xman]

AFLPA runs check on supplements
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April 17, 2013
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The AFL Players Association is researching the substances that Essendon players may have taken, including some that have not yet been revealed to the public, in a bid to help protect them from any possible health risks.

And the latest legal opinion that the players have received, via the AFLPA, is that the players are well placed to avoid penalties in the Essendon investigation by the AFL and the Australian Sport Anti-Doping Authority, which interviewed James Hird for the first time on Tuesday.

The player union is researching the substances the players might have taken - including anti-obesity drug AOD9604 and Cerebroylsin, the so-called pig's brain peptide used to treat Alzheimer's - to determine if there are known side effects or health risks the players might have been exposed to.

ASADA has provided the AFLPA with a list of the substances that it suspects have been, or might have been, administered to the players as part of their injections and supplements regime.

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Sources said more substances were being examined by the AFLPA than those reported by Fairfax Media last week, which included a bark extract, cows' first milk and an immune system booster.

Player managers were given a briefing by the players' association on Monday, when they were told by the union's in-house lawyer, Brett Murphy, that Essendon players had a strong legal defence because of the steps they had taken to ensure they were compliant with the drug code.

As the meeting was told, the players can be defended first of all on the basis that no substances are known to have been taken that breach the World Anti-Doping Agency code.

AOD9604, which sacked sports scientist Stephen Dank has acknowledged was administered to players, is considered in the grey zone, given that a WADA panel recommended that it be considered banned.

But even if it was deemed banned the legal argument of the AFLPA's legal team is that players took all reasonable steps to ensure they were not taking a banned substance.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/a ... z2Qi7yvjvB

[Swans4ever]

What a load of shit - enough said and Raiderdave if you had half the Bombers members we'd never hear the end of it

[Rabbit]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/AFL/ess...-1226628993513


Quote:
Essendon admit to drug investigators some of its players took anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year

Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
April 25, 2013 12:00AM

Essendon have admitted to drug investigators some of its players took anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year. Herald Sun

ESSENDON has admitted to drug investigators some of its players took the anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year.

The Bombers said they relied on a document purported to have been issued by the World Anti-Doping Agency approving use of the substance, which WADA confirmed this week was banned.

It is believed Essendon's former sports scientist Stephen Dank showed a document to Bombers club doctor Bruce Reid.

Essendon does not have the letter, and believes Dank has the only copy.

Several Essendon officials are aware of the letter's existence.

Dank was not available to respond to questions about the document yesterday.

It has been reported "half a dozen" Bombers took the drug as part of the supplements program at Essendon last year, the subject of a joint Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority-AFL investigation.

While AOD-9604 is not banned under category S2 of the WADA code - which lists specific substances - it is prohibited under category S0, which states substances not approved for human use are prohibited at all times.

Reid has been interviewed by ASADA investigators and is believed to have told them of the letter of authorisation.

Essendon coach James Hird also has been interviewed, with other coaches and players to follow.

Dank has not yet agreed to talk to ASADA.

Given he is not employed by an AFL club, he is not compelled to submit to interview.

Asked about an AOD-9604 "authorisation letter" last night, an Essendon spokesman said: "The club has launched an AFL-ASADA investigation and an internal review and we will not be commenting until the investigations are completed."

If charged with doping, players would be expected to defend themselves under 'exceptional circumstances' provisions in the WADA code and the AFL Anti-Doping Code, which can have two-year bans cancelled.

WADA's rule 10.5.1 discusses the principle of "no fault or negligence", and is based on athletes proving they did not know what they were being given by sports scientists or doctors.

If an athlete can prove "in an individual case that he or she bears no fault or negligence, the otherwise applicable period of ineligibility shall be eliminated".

The Australian Crime Commission said yesterday it had relied on information from ASADA in compiling its report on drugs in sport, which stated several times AOD-9604 was not prohibited.

Melbourne has also been linked to "AOD" in text exchanges between Dank and Demons club doctor Dan Bates revealed last week.

Bates, who has been stood down by Melbourne, was interviewed by ASADA and AFL officers last week.

He said yesterday: "I wish to point out that I will be open and transparent and I look forward to continuing to fully assist ASADA and the AFL in their investigations."

with Eliza Sewell

[Raiderdave]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/AFL/ess...-1226628993513


Quote:
Essendon admit to drug investigators some of its players took anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year

Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
April 25, 2013 12:00AM

Essendon have admitted to drug investigators some of its players took anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year. Herald Sun

ESSENDON has admitted to drug investigators some of its players took the anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year.

The Bombers said they relied on a document purported to have been issued by the World Anti-Doping Agency approving use of the substance, which WADA confirmed this week was banned.

It is believed Essendon's former sports scientist Stephen Dank showed a document to Bombers club doctor Bruce Reid.

Essendon does not have the letter, and believes Dank has the only copy.

Several Essendon officials are aware of the letter's existence.

Dank was not available to respond to questions about the document yesterday.

It has been reported "half a dozen" Bombers took the drug as part of the supplements program at Essendon last year, the subject of a joint Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority-AFL investigation.

While AOD-9604 is not banned under category S2 of the WADA code - which lists specific substances - it is prohibited under category S0, which states substances not approved for human use are prohibited at all times.

Reid has been interviewed by ASADA investigators and is believed to have told them of the letter of authorisation.

Essendon coach James Hird also has been interviewed, with other coaches and players to follow.

Dank has not yet agreed to talk to ASADA.

Given he is not employed by an AFL club, he is not compelled to submit to interview.

Asked about an AOD-9604 "authorisation letter" last night, an Essendon spokesman said: "The club has launched an AFL-ASADA investigation and an internal review and we will not be commenting until the investigations are completed."

If charged with doping, players would be expected to defend themselves under 'exceptional circumstances' provisions in the WADA code and the AFL Anti-Doping Code, which can have two-year bans cancelled.

WADA's rule 10.5.1 discusses the principle of "no fault or negligence", and is based on athletes proving they did not know what they were being given by sports scientists or doctors.

If an athlete can prove "in an individual case that he or she bears no fault or negligence, the otherwise applicable period of ineligibility shall be eliminated".

The Australian Crime Commission said yesterday it had relied on information from ASADA in compiling its report on drugs in sport, which stated several times AOD-9604 was not prohibited.

Melbourne has also been linked to "AOD" in text exchanges between Dank and Demons club doctor Dan Bates revealed last week.

Bates, who has been stood down by Melbourne, was interviewed by ASADA and AFL officers last week.

He said yesterday: "I wish to point out that I will be open and transparent and I look forward to continuing to fully assist ASADA and the AFL in their investigations."

with Eliza Sewell

Bye Bye Essington

[eelofwest]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/AFL/ess...-1226628993513


Quote:
Essendon admit to drug investigators some of its players took anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year

Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
April 25, 2013 12:00AM

Essendon have admitted to drug investigators some of its players took anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year. Herald Sun

ESSENDON has admitted to drug investigators some of its players took the anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 last year.

The Bombers said they relied on a document purported to have been issued by the World Anti-Doping Agency approving use of the substance, which WADA confirmed this week was banned.

It is believed Essendon's former sports scientist Stephen Dank showed a document to Bombers club doctor Bruce Reid.

Essendon does not have the letter, and believes Dank has the only copy.

Several Essendon officials are aware of the letter's existence.

Dank was not available to respond to questions about the document yesterday.

It has been reported "half a dozen" Bombers took the drug as part of the supplements program at Essendon last year, the subject of a joint Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority-AFL investigation.

While AOD-9604 is not banned under category S2 of the WADA code - which lists specific substances - it is prohibited under category S0, which states substances not approved for human use are prohibited at all times.

Reid has been interviewed by ASADA investigators and is believed to have told them of the letter of authorisation.

Essendon coach James Hird also has been interviewed, with other coaches and players to follow.

Dank has not yet agreed to talk to ASADA.

Given he is not employed by an AFL club, he is not compelled to submit to interview.

Asked about an AOD-9604 "authorisation letter" last night, an Essendon spokesman said: "The club has launched an AFL-ASADA investigation and an internal review and we will not be commenting until the investigations are completed."

If charged with doping, players would be expected to defend themselves under 'exceptional circumstances' provisions in the WADA code and the AFL Anti-Doping Code, which can have two-year bans cancelled.

WADA's rule 10.5.1 discusses the principle of "no fault or negligence", and is based on athletes proving they did not know what they were being given by sports scientists or doctors.

If an athlete can prove "in an individual case that he or she bears no fault or negligence, the otherwise applicable period of ineligibility shall be eliminated".

The Australian Crime Commission said yesterday it had relied on information from ASADA in compiling its report on drugs in sport, which stated several times AOD-9604 was not prohibited.

Melbourne has also been linked to "AOD" in text exchanges between Dank and Demons club doctor Dan Bates revealed last week.

Bates, who has been stood down by Melbourne, was interviewed by ASADA and AFL officers last week.

He said yesterday: "I wish to point out that I will be open and transparent and I look forward to continuing to fully assist ASADA and the AFL in their investigations."

with Eliza Sewell

Look like strong enough evidence to me you..............

[piesman2011]

Half a dozen might get a two year ban. But I see them getting off if this letter comes to the surface, even if Dank faked the letter to show the Essendon officials. Half a dosen players banned wouldnt really affect Essendon as a club, it might cause a few issues with their premiership chances.
I would be more worried about the Sharks and their horse drugs.

[Xman]

Half a dozen might get a two year ban. But I see them getting off if this letter comes to the surface, even if Dank faked the letter to show the Essendon officials. Half a dosen players banned wouldnt really affect Essendon as a club, it might cause a few issues with their premiership chances.
I would be more worried about the Sharks and their horse drugs.

At worst 6 players may be banned for 6 months since they invited ASADA to investigate rather than hiding. A few of which may not even be at Essendon this year.

Still very possible is that the players will be able to argue they demanded evidence the supplements were legal and didnt realise they werent. This defence has precedent and is quite possible.

At best ASADA did say the supplement wasnt banned as Doc Reid has stated and there is no charge. Remember, Doc Reid was interviewed by ASADA over a month ago and will have told them everything. Yet 10 weeks after the ACC report was released there are still no charges. ASADA insiders admitted to their case against aod9604 is weak.