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wow
just wow

and this is really only the tip of the ice berg as I have explained on many occasions. this article here says they started their property buying 2 years ago, it started about 7 years ago in fact when they snapped up 10 licensed clubs across NSW & QLD adding to several they already had... & they have been buying & buying ever since.
when this inner city development is complete in about 3 years or so , well jeez louise they will be the rolling in coin like no other sporting organisation in this country.

theres talk they may be in such a strong financial position in the coming years to become part owners of the new rectangle indoor stadium to be built with the Govt with an option of buying it out over time , imagine the Raiders being the Brumbies Landlords :lol: :lol:

the Football club board oversees it all but they just let the Raiders group management team who report to the football board .... to just keep doing what they are doing ... the bank balance just keeps going up ... & up , the asset wealth the same. :wink:

eleven years ago there was talk of liquidation , folding .. we had nothing
we were pennyless .. we could barely pay our players ... we couldn't afford to spend up to the cap which was only about 3 million back then , so we had an average roster as thats all we could afford & we were going around in circles


wow
how things have changed , the Raiders are now the model for everyone off the field , well done raiders , well done. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> :cool:


THE AFL has a future fund and the Rugby League Commission plans one, seeking $200 million in savings over the life of the new broadcasting contract.

Clubs are in a different position, with some depending on next year's season-ticket sales to meet this year's cost overruns.

The Raiders may be near the bottom of the NRL premiership ladder and the Rabbitohs at the top, but the asset base of the two clubs offers stark contrasts.

Two years ago, the Raiders bought a couple of commercial properties in Brisbane - a 10-storey office block in the city, and a smaller one at Milton. In July 2011, they added a Bunnings property at Seven Hills in Sydney to their portfolio of investments.

The Raiders' next big project will be a mixed-use development on a site at Braddon in the ACT.

A development application has been lodged to build 161 apartments, with about 2200 square metres of retail space, and 3000 square metres of commercial space. It's an $80 million development.

The Raiders' investments yield $3.3 million a year in income and expect it to reach $8 million within five years.

This approximates what the Bulldogs receive from their licensed-club grant to meet the difference between what the football club spends and what they receive from the NRL, gate takings and sponsorship. While the Bulldogs and many Sydney clubs rely on poker machines, the Raiders are diversifying to more traditional forms of investment, with a good long-term income stream.

The Rabbitohs don't have a licensed club to subsidise them.

Souths on Chalmers closed its doors and is in administration, owing $5.65 million, comprising $2.6 million to a private lender (who has security over the half-floor premises) and $2 million to the Castellorizian Club (which has security over the business), $400,000 to a former director and $600,000 to tradesmen who worked on the development.

The assets that were present when the Rabbitohs were down the bottom of the ladder under the presidency of George Piggins have disappeared. The $15 million-plus in real estate when the club was privatised has been sold.

High Concept Commercial Pty Ltd, the joint venture developing the four-level building and 198-space car park, went into administration last year, unable to pay its bills.

Its guarantor is the football club, which has been served with a demand for $1.1 million and a yet-to-be-determined sum for loss of trading at the leagues club.

Souths under Piggins were described by the administrator as ''asset rich, cash poor''.

They are now ''asset poor, cash rich'', that is, cash rich by the standards of most NRL clubs. Their gate takings, membership income, merchandising sales and sponsorship income, in total, would be surpassed only by the Broncos. Considering the Broncos are a one-city club, while Souths must compete with eight other Sydney clubs, the Rabbitohs administration is entitled to boast it is as good at raising revenue as its team is scoring points.

But with no assets, they must rely on a successful football team to generate revenue and the charity of owners Russell Crowe and Peter Holmes a Court.

And now, with the Rabbitohs served with demands from the now closed leagues club, it faces a reversal of the traditional income flow where a leagues club funds a football club.

Of the sale of a community-owned leagues club to buy a privately owned football team, Piggins says: ''I could have done that.''

Canberra is showing the way to an ''asset rich, cash rich'' future.
Raiders' Group general manager Simon Hawkins says, ''One of the selling points we have when recruiting players is explaining to them about the financial strength of our group and the stability of our corporate structure. We have around 660 employees across ACT, NSW and Queensland, and all of these people either work for the Raiders and rugby league, or for one of the companies which support rugby league.

''There are still people here who were also around in the early '90s, when things weren't so rosy [Raiders players were forced to take a salary cut]. This corporate memory allows us to focus on making investment decisions that are good for the long term. We're all passionate about our footy, but there is a team of us here who concentrate on ensuring we have the finances to continue supporting it.''

Raiders fans would probably like to swap positions on the premiership ladder with the Rabbitohs but Canberra's management would not swap asset bases



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z2PolDqoO5
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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So their income from these investments is 3mil a year.....

I suppose this makes up for their 10k attendances :lol: :lol:
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Xman wrote:
So their income from these investments is 3mil a year.....

I suppose this makes up for their 10k attendances :lol: :lol:

these 3 investments mentioned only

as we know
the rest of their empire delivers them another 46 Million
its estimated their new development in the city will earn them 10 mill a year by itself

they'll have non football incomes of over 70 Million a year by 2017 & combined with their football income be closing in on 90 Million
& be banking 8 figure profits

for a small team from a small town that has next to no corporate infrastructure
thats amazing
some VFL clubs.. & NRL for that matter , should be making appointments to see our people on how its done :cool:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Who owns the raiders? Or are they members based?
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piesman2011 wrote:
Who owns the raiders? Or are they members based?
well this is where it gets complicated
its a strange set up that goes back to 1981

when the then NSWRL invited applications for entry into the 1982 premiership
a cartel .... & thats the best way to describe it ... a cartel
of ten business men from the local region all put up 100K each to finance the Raiders bid & if succesful become the owners of the franchise

in 1997 they all sold a 51% share to News Ltd ( for considerably more then half of what they paid 15 years earlier )
in 2002 News sold their interest in the club back to the cartel for .. well they gave it away essentially as the joint was near worthless

to this day
these same men , or their families own the license & you cannot wipe the smiles off their faces

when I say board
I mean cartel

there are no elections , a Raiders member ( like myself ) has no voting rights
its even a bit different to a privately owned side as its a group of owners ... not a single one like Russell crowe .. or a bussiness owning them like News own the Storm.

if a cartel member wants to sell his share ... the remaining members have first rights on it & a majority can veto any outsider from joining them.
to this day
the same 10 families remain the owners.
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Thanks for the info raider.
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I wonder how much of this will flow back into the actual football club. Increasing their budget from $10m would be a start, even thought the actual football club will make big losses from any increase in department expenditure. The Raiders are a soulless business and not a football club.
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I wonder whether theyll stop relying on grants from the ARLC and ACT gov for 50% of their piddly little budget?
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Well done raiders ...
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
So their income from these investments is 3mil a year.....

I suppose this makes up for their 10k attendances :lol: :lol:

these 3 investments mentioned only

as we know
the rest of their empire delivers them another 46 Million
its estimated their new development in the city will earn them 10 mill a year by itself

they'll have non football incomes of over 70 Million a year by 2017 & combined with their football income be closing in on 90 Million
& be banking 8 figure profits

for a small team from a small town that has next to no corporate infrastructure
thats amazing
some VFL clubs.. & NRL for that matter , should be making appointments to see our people on how its done :cool:
You have been saying this for a long time, yet these gimps refused to believe you.............. :lol: :lol:

Time to believe guys, the raiders are not going anywhere, same goes for the panthers they have plans going through right now that will see them as leaders in the NRL.
Gus's vision for Panthers project a step closer
April 5, 2013, 10:18 a.m.

Phil Gould's blueprint for Penrith is a step closer to fruition after council approved the draft plans for an $850 million sporting and leisure complex in the league heartland.

The Panthers are trying to create a world-class facility, which will include playmaker and positional academies for the biggest junior nursery in the world. It is just part of a redevelopment of a site that will house state-of-the-art training and playing facilities, as well as entertainment and shopping opportunities for the community.

The plans will go on public display after they are approved by Penrith council.

"We need to be the biggest and most progressive sporting franchise in the country'': Phil Gould. Photo: Brendan Esposito

''The concept has been guided by the Panthers Club and its members, Penrith council, other key local stakeholders and our own experiences,'' Panthers Group corporate real estate general manager Stacey Fishwick said. ''This is a substantial investment for Penrith, creating local jobs and a boost for the local economy.

''We are also focusing on improving the links between our site, Penrith Stadium, the city centre and the river, and to make Penrith Panthers a destination of choice for locals and visitors alike.'' Other aspects of the project include parks, cycling tracks and an indoor centre. The 8500 juniors would have infrastructure the envy of rivals.
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''This is an opportunity for Penrith to be at the forefront of developing a world-class mixed-use entertainment precinct outside of a capital city,'' Fishwick said.

In a draft document, Gould outlined the need for better infrastructure. ''If we are to truly represent the biggest and fastest-growing junior league in the country, then we need to be the biggest and most progressive sporting franchise in the country - certainly western Sydney,'' Gould wrote.

All this talk about these clubs going down is in your dreams........ :lol: :lol: :lol:

I would be more worried about Souths, who have great revenue through its football department but have no backstop when times get tough.
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Who cares! Its hilarious watching 5000 people claimed as 10,001 every second week :lol:

50% of their yearly budget is from ARLC and act grants :lol:
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Xman wrote:
Who cares! Its hilarious watching 5000 people claimed as 10,001 every second week :lol:

50% of their yearly budget is from ARLC and act grants :lol:

Which clubs in the AFL will own a asset worth 850m dollars mate?


That is nearly a 1b investment in Junior league in Penrith/blacktown area.

GL GWS your going to need it............ :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh and the Sharkies have just got approved thier 300+million development which will see them safe in the future.
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eelofwest wrote:
Xman wrote:
Who cares! Its hilarious watching 5000 people claimed as 10,001 every second week :lol:

50% of their yearly budget is from ARLC and act grants :lol:

Which clubs in the AFL will own a asset worth 850m dollars mate?


That is nearly a 1b investment in Junior league in Penrith/blacktown area.

GL GWS your going to need it............ :lol: :lol: :lol:
As someone said on here, theyre a business with a pet sports club, not a sports club with a business. They only get a few million out of their business arm a year, meaning they still rely on the ACT gov for grants to stay within a tiny budget.

How you think this somehow means they invest into local sport is beyond me
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Xman wrote:
eelofwest wrote:
Xman wrote:
Who cares! Its hilarious watching 5000 people claimed as 10,001 every second week :lol:

50% of their yearly budget is from ARLC and act grants :lol:

Which clubs in the AFL will own a asset worth 850m dollars mate?


That is nearly a 1b investment in Junior league in Penrith/blacktown area.

GL GWS your going to need it............ :lol: :lol: :lol:
As someone said on here, theyre a business with a pet sports club, not a sports club with a business. They only get a few million out of their business arm a year, meaning they still rely on the ACT gov for grants to stay within a tiny budget.

How you think this somehow means they invest into local sport is beyond me

We are also focusing on improving the links between our site, Penrith Stadium, the city centre and the river, and to make Penrith Panthers a destination of choice for locals and visitors alike.'' Other aspects of the project include parks, cycling tracks and an indoor centre. The 8500 juniors would have infrastructure the envy of rivals.

''This is an opportunity for Penrith to be at the forefront of developing a world-class mixed-use entertainment precinct outside of a capital city,'' Fishwick said.

In a draft document, Gould outlined the need for better infrastructure. ''If we are to truly represent the biggest and fastest-growing junior league in the country, then we need to be the biggest and most progressive sporting franchise in the country - certainly western Sydney,'' Gould wrote.

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Ah yeah, didnt notice you'd changed from the raiders to the panthers! :lol: :lol:

Who cares! The NRL actually spending some money on their own heartland! How astounding! :lol: :lol:
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