Eels to bend salary cap rules to sign Folau

[Beaussie]

Wow, just wow. Fair dinkum ARLC and Parramatta. Why even have a salary cap? Circus show and leaguies here have the hide to judge the AFL. Hypocrites

Parramatta Eels ask permission to bend salary cap rules to sign Israel Folau
Dean Ritchie
The Daily Telegraph
November 26, 201212:00AM

PARRAMATTA will break next season's salary cap to get Israel Folau back to rugby league, but only if the ARL Commission grants them permission.

The Daily Telegraph understands Parramatta have approached the commission to spend more than the game's $5 million salary cap for next year and then operate under a reduced cap for 2014.

The ARLC is looking to register Folau at $400,000 for next season, knocking back the Eels' original plan to declare a far lower salary for the AFL defector. That would mean Parramatta's cap is increased to $5.4 million for next year but reduced by $400,000 - to $4.6 million - for 2014.

Over two years, Parramatta would spend the same amount - $10 million - as every other club.

However, Parramatta's 2014 cap would easily be the lowest of any club in the NRL.

Eels chief executive Ken Edwards met with ARLC chairman John Grant last Friday morning at NRL headquarters.

A second option facing Parramatta is to shed up to $400,000 worth of talent, culling up to three players.

Parramatta claim to have been open with the NRL, but it's understood they have not submitted a Folau contract to salary cap auditor Ian Schubert.

It's believed the Eels were pushing to register Folau's contract for roughly $150,000 for the first year of his deal - very cheap considering he left the game as an Origin and Test star.

One source inside the NRL confirmed Parramatta had asked to break the cap next year but then be reined back in 2014.

"Maybe there should be some adjustments to the rules," he said.

"Over the next two years Parramatta will spend exactly the same amount as all rival clubs. It will even out.

"I think the ARLC must think outside the square on this one. The game has to decide whether it wants Israel Folau back."

There is danger in allowing Parramatta to bend the salary cap rules because other clubs are sure to make use of such wriggle room.

It is understood overseas rugby union clubs have already heard about the NRL's resistance to register Folau and are preparing offers.

Folau could easily end up in French or Japanese rugby union for 12 months. He is managed by Isaac Moses, who sent fellow AFL convert Karmichael Hunt for a stint in French rugby before the former Bronco started with Gold Coast Suns in the AFL.

But if Folau thought AFL was boring and not suited to his skills, wait until he sees the ball only a couple of times a rugby match.

The former AFL player wants to play for one club, Parramatta, but is understood to be frustrated with the delay.

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[Raiderdave]

yes , the VFL just pop the word " legal .. allowable ... wink wink " in front of several of their teams salary caps
so why not the NRL
Hell parra aren't even technically breaking the cap ... intentionally over in 2013.. & under in 2014

unlike the swines who've been over everyone elses for 30 years in the rort known as the " keeping them competitive cos we've failed to win over the locals " allowance

we'll just call Parramattas' .. the " screwing the VFL in Western Sydney " allowance .. so they can sign Izzy

[Beaussie]

How dumb are NRL fans? Exhibit 1 - Raiderdave above.

[eelofwest]

Wow, just wow. Fair dinkum ARLC and Parramatta. Why even have a salary cap? Circus show and leaguies here have the hide to judge the AFL. Hypocrites

Parramatta Eels ask permission to bend salary cap rules to sign Israel Folau
Dean Ritchie
The Daily Telegraph
November 26, 201212:00AM

PARRAMATTA will break next season's salary cap to get Israel Folau back to rugby league, but only if the ARL Commission grants them permission.

The Daily Telegraph understands Parramatta have approached the commission to spend more than the game's $5 million salary cap for next year and then operate under a reduced cap for 2014.

The ARLC is looking to register Folau at $400,000 for next season, knocking back the Eels' original plan to declare a far lower salary for the AFL defector. That would mean Parramatta's cap is increased to $5.4 million for next year but reduced by $400,000 - to $4.6 million - for 2014.

Over two years, Parramatta would spend the same amount - $10 million - as every other club.

However, Parramatta's 2014 cap would easily be the lowest of any club in the NRL.

Eels chief executive Ken Edwards met with ARLC chairman John Grant last Friday morning at NRL headquarters.

A second option facing Parramatta is to shed up to $400,000 worth of talent, culling up to three players.

Parramatta claim to have been open with the NRL, but it's understood they have not submitted a Folau contract to salary cap auditor Ian Schubert.

It's believed the Eels were pushing to register Folau's contract for roughly $150,000 for the first year of his deal - very cheap considering he left the game as an Origin and Test star.

One source inside the NRL confirmed Parramatta had asked to break the cap next year but then be reined back in 2014.

"Maybe there should be some adjustments to the rules," he said.

"Over the next two years Parramatta will spend exactly the same amount as all rival clubs. It will even out.

"I think the ARLC must think outside the square on this one. The game has to decide whether it wants Israel Folau back."

There is danger in allowing Parramatta to bend the salary cap rules because other clubs are sure to make use of such wriggle room.

It is understood overseas rugby union clubs have already heard about the NRL's resistance to register Folau and are preparing offers.

Folau could easily end up in French or Japanese rugby union for 12 months. He is managed by Isaac Moses, who sent fellow AFL convert Karmichael Hunt for a stint in French rugby before the former Bronco started with Gold Coast Suns in the AFL.

But if Folau thought AFL was boring and not suited to his skills, wait until he sees the ball only a couple of times a rugby match.

The former AFL player wants to play for one club, Parramatta, but is understood to be frustrated with the delay.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6523830051

It's believed the Eels were pushing to register Folau's contract for roughly $150,000 for the first year of his deal - very cheap considering he left the game as an Origin and Test star.

If Falou wants to play for the eels on peanuts for the first year then the ARLC should not be able to vito it.

The NRL rates Falou a 400k player at least, but he is willin to take a huge pay cut to be at Parra, the ARLC should not be able to stop a player taking a pay cut..

BTW this is all speculation from another grub DT journo, not even close to what a farce the AFL has on its hands with the Crows and Tanking...

[eelofwest]

yes , the VFL just pop the word " legal .. allowable ... wink wink " in front of several of their teams salary caps
so why not the NRL
Hell parra aren't even technically breaking the cap ... intentionally over in 2013.. & under in 2014

unlike the swines who've been over everyone elses for 30 years in the rort known as the " keeping them competitive cos we've failed to win over the locals " allowance

we'll just call Parramattas' .. the " screwing the VFL in Western Sydney " allowance .. so they can sign Izzy

Raider is correct, the expansion teams in the AFL have had a higher cap then the rest since there inception.......Integrity of the AFL Gonnneeee.....

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COLLINGWOOD president Eddie McGuire has warned the AFL that it should consider repealing long-term concessions for Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney.
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Fearful both teams could become competition superpowers, McGuire has declared his next "crusade" in his push for equality and an unencumbered draft and salary cap that sits with the start-up AFL clubs.

"The AFL has got to be quick to work out whether they have given GWS and Gold Coast too much," McGuire said.

"We have given the AFL the imprimatur to give them the best possible start, but if it ever gets to the stage - and I think we are getting close to it - they need to look at it.

"I trust the AFL to do the right thing ... but if they (the two clubs) have taken a position that is counter to what was intended - to build a super team that will dominate - we have to start looking at it and read the play about what is going on."

Fresh from having a win on the Chris Judd-Visy deal, which the AFL has declared must now be a part of Carlton's salary cap, McGuire said he wanted to keep fighting AFL inequalities.

"This is not about Collingwood, it is about giving a level playing field for all clubs," he said. "To be honest, the clubs that are being smashed are Melbourne and the Bulldogs.

"The AFL has done a lot of things to compete against rugby league, rugby union and soccer, and I applaud them for doing it. But at some stage we have to be careful that we are not running a marketing competition - we are running a football competition.

"The best times we have had in football was when we had an unencumbered draft, when there was no salary cap inequalities, except for the Judd one, and when the system was working as it was intended to.

"We had record ratings, attendances and memberships. We have to get back to that system as quickly as possible."

McGuire is concerned that Gold Coast and GWS have been able to "stockpile" young talent in a way that was not intended when the rules were made.

And he fears for the future of some clubs as a chasm between the haves and have-nots grows wider by the year.

Both new clubs have extra players on their lists and salary cap allowances in their infancy - with the Gold Coast's concessions set to expire in 2014 and GWS's in 2018.

McGuire said the inflationary market could account for why Adelaide was tempted to do everything in its power to try and keep Kurt Tippett.





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MICK Malthouse has slammed the AFL's clamp on Chris Judd's Visy deal but Eddie McGuire says the Blues are "fighting for a rort".

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Speaking from the Blues' high-altitude training camp in Arizona, Malthouse last night said he was "astounded" by the ruling that Judd's $200,000 deal with Visy must now be included in Carlton's salary cap.

"When you start changing the rules halfway through, I'm just astounded," he told Channel 7.

"I don't think it's fair on either (Carlton or Judd) ... and any other player in the competition.

"The league may have been painting themselves into a very, very dark corner."

But Malthouse won't be getting any support from former boss McGuire on the issue.

The Collingwood president has been an outspoken critic of the third-party deal and this morning he renewed his attack as the AFL looks closely at other deals involving stars such as Geelong captain Joel Selwood.

McGuire also took a swipe at his fellow presidents for sitting on the fence on the issue.

"It would be handy every now and again if a few other presidents stuck their head up and had a bit of a dip as well," he said.

"Let's talk about what is really going on OK," Eddie McGuire said on Triple M today.

"I'll tell you why, I'm not fighting for a rort I'm fighting for the truth here.

"I'm fighting for equality for clubs and I'm sick to death of an unplaying (sic) field bobbing up every other minute and this stuff on the run.

"Let's sort it out so players can make the money and clubs can compete equally.

"I'm sick to death of looking down the road and seeing Carlton have a $200,000 head start every year for the last five years."




Eddie and Mick telling it how it is....well done.... =D> =D> What a Farce the AFL has become......

[King-Eliagh]

Great post Beaussie! :D

Yes Parra are being quite cheeky here arent they. It's pretty funny but it clearly shows the NRLs tough decisions on salary cap rorting are now coming to fruition. Here we have a club openly discussing their situation and, like a little Oliver Twist before the authoritarian establishment, squeaking "please sir, may i have some more?" Whatever the result the NRL is in control of the salary cap.

Fantastic work NRL. =D>

On the other hand we have the crows of adelaide. A team who tried to get away with rorting but were found out. They never asked whether they could have a bit more first. No they cheated and stole, fair and square. And why did they cheat? Because the AFL dont hand out tough punishments to cheaters like the NRL do.

Again I'll say it. It's worth the risk cheating in the AFL.

[cos789]

nrl are in a bind here .
Eels are on the bottom. The Giants are in the GWS ans now there's a soccer team out West.
They cannot be seen barring Izzy from an area that AFL laid down the red carpet for him.
Do they make the tough decision here and stick with the salary cap or do they capitulate at the first hurdle.
Nrl need Izzy in the Eels because without him they'd look pathetic compared to the AFL's effort.
It's a lose lose situation for rl.

.

[King-Eliagh]

Cos lettuce what on earth are you dreaming? RL would look pathetic compared the the AFLs effort? Ahhh last i saw GWS were kinda the laughing stock of not only the AFL but professional sporting teams country wide...and probably internationally also, if they'd heard of this team. You call that a "good effort"?

[Raiderdave]

nrl are in a bind here .
Eels are on the bottom. The Giants are in the GWS ans now there's a soccer team out West.
They cannot be seen barring Izzy from an area that AFL laid down the red carpet for him.
Do they make the tough decision here and stick with the salary cap or do they capitulate at the first hurdle.
Nrl need Izzy in the Eels because without him they'd look pathetic compared to the AFL's effort.
It's a lose lose situation for rl.

.

we'll see if its a lose lose .. when Izzy fronts the NRL's TV campaign in a Parramatta Jersey
& 15 foot posters of him saying something like " Love my NRL " .... adorn the side of the M4 from ANZ Stadium to Blackheath

who are the ants going to use as their pin up boy out Blacktown way now cuzzy ?
it seems they won't get ken frigget from the budgies , not that anyone out there would have known who the hell he was anyway
so who ?....
which singlet wearing no name will push the cause of the victorian game now in the vastness of Sydney's League loving west ?
nah
its all eyes in western sydney on Izzy & the NRL ... the few that strayed for a year , straight back where they belong

the VFL needed Izzy in the midgets ,without him they look ........... as impossible as it seems ...even more pathetic then they did

[ParraEelsNRL]

lol how dumb are these Vfl fans, I mean really

[ParraEelsNRL]

Parramatta haven't done anything wrong, infact they have done the exact opposite of the likes of the Canterbury Bullfrogs, the Melbourne Storm, the Adelaide side that isn't stewies (the one that wins and has supporters) in Vfl, they have asked the commission to find a way so they can sign him even if they can only spend $4.6 mill instead of $5 mill for the following season of their SC.

I find that fair, if it happens it happens if not, I'll not care too much, Parra need a hooker and some Big forwards more than another big name outside back.

[piesman2011]

Wasnt there one poster in particular who kept going on about some AFL teams having a bigger salary cap was wrong and made the competition unfair. Wouldnt giving the Eels one year with a bigger cap, pretty much be the same thing? Or is said poster a hypocrite? (for the record I believe that it is cool if you change your mind).

[Stewie]

nRL.... zero integrity. What a disgraceful game.

[ParraEelsNRL]

There is no need to break anything, if the Dragons can get Mark Gasnier back from french rah rah and give him $55,000 for the first year and then back end it, other teams should be able to do the same thing for players coming from other sports.

If Parra can't get him because of the cap, I know a few players they can let go of for a start to help fit him in.

As for the comment about being a hypocrite, well yeah, you may have a point if it was happening all the time for certain clubs year after year, but it isn't and if something does happen, Parramattas cap for the following year would be lower, how is that the same as the Vfl giving out millions to these non lol footy states'year after year after year after year?

[eelofwest]

There is no need to break anything, if the Dragons can get Mark Gasnier back from french rah rah and give him $55,000 for the first year and then back end it, other teams should be able to do the same thing for players coming from other sports.

If Parra can't get him because of the cap, I know a few players they can let go of for a start to help fit him in.

As for the comment about being a hypocrite, well yeah, you may have a point if it was happening all the time for certain clubs year after year, but it isn't and if something does happen, Parramattas cap for the following year would be lower, how is that the same as the Vfl giving out millions to these non lol footy states'year after year after year after year?

Your spot on about Gasnier Parra, they signed him for 55k and was allowed to back end it why not Parra?

Schubert thinks Falou is worth 400k minimum, when he was worth that money when he left the game flying high. It should not matter what he is worth, if he wants to play for the Eels and take a salary cut for the first year so be it. The ARLC should not be allowed to stop a player from signing for less money and having the Deal back ended. The Dragons did it why not Parra, if the ARLC block this then Parra need to ask the question why its okay for other clubs and not us.

This Thread is another desperate attempt by some AFL fans on this site to try and take focus of how pathetic the AFL commission has become.....

Sorry guys Parra have not done anything wrong and are just asking questions of the ARLC in full view of the public, unlike the Crows who are trying every dirty tactic in the book to get a lighter sentence...after they have been busted....