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Yeah Pal !!


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Fred wrote:
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Yeah Pal !!


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You seem to be trolling me pal. It's kind of impressive I mean that much to you!!!! I well remember the days when you refused to converse with me after the multiple thrashings I gave you lololololol!!!!!!! After which you retired to the jungle to save further humiliation lololoo!!!!!

Here's hoping you stay in the fight this time pal. Stay well!!!!!



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Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:06 am

That's a given my friend. Can I ask where you got your figure of $4.418M for GWS membership/season ticket/gate/merch from their 2018 annual report? Ta pal!!!!!!!!!!
you can ask. But i really dont feel like helping you out today, Pal.


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The_Wookie wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:42 pm
Terry wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:06 am

That's a given my friend. Can I ask where you got your figure of $4.418M for GWS membership/season ticket/gate/merch from their 2018 annual report? Ta pal!!!!!!!!!!
you can ask. But i really dont feel like helping you out today, Pal.
Thanks pal. Sorry to worry you. It's just that I can't find any figures that add up to that amount in the AR. No doubt it is my ignorance. I will take another look and let you know what I come up with.

Cheers pal!!!!!!



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The_Wookie wrote:
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Head office money is not revenue idiot.

How could they be making anything when all their so called supporters would fit in a phone booth. Thickshit.
Head office revenue and membership revenue are reported separately.

And just for comparison

Match Returns (Membership/Season Tickets & Gate)

GWS – $4,418,738 (includes merch)
Swans - Sydney – $16,375,126 (+ $766k in merch)

Parramatta - $2,762,078 (+693k in merch)
Penrith - $2,250,000 (+1.398m in merch)
Roosters - $1,798,624 (+518k in merch/royalties) + possible 1.7m in members subs.
Bulldogs - $2,273,274 (+$995k in merch)
Sharks -$973,042 + possible $2,092,248 in members subs. (+1.6m in merch)
How can a club which only half fills its stadium twice a season, gives countless free tickets away & has so few supporters based on TV audience, generate such income?
Maybe includes fee paid by ACT government?



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AngloFootballLeague wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:09 pm


How can a club which only half fills its stadium twice a season, gives countless free tickets away & has so few supporters based on TV audience, generate such income?
Maybe includes fee paid by ACT government?
ACT Government is a sponsorship. Its separately accounted for under....um..sponsorship.

lol keep reaching.


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Terry wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:49 pm
The_Wookie wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:42 pm
Terry wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:06 am

That's a given my friend. Can I ask where you got your figure of $4.418M for GWS membership/season ticket/gate/merch from their 2018 annual report? Ta pal!!!!!!!!!!
you can ask. But i really dont feel like helping you out today, Pal.
Thanks pal. Sorry to worry you. It's just that I can't find any figures that add up to that amount in the AR. No doubt it is my ignorance. I will take another look and let you know what I come up with.

Cheers pal!!!!!!
Ok my first figure is wrong, because i didnt caculuate in 1.984m in other AFL distributions.

Its because the match receipts and the AFL distribution are combined in the GWS report, To get the match reciepts you need to subtract the AFL Distribution which isnt listed in the GWS report, but is listed in the AFL repor.

GWS Report -
AFL Distributions and Match Reciepts - 25,692,602
Membership and Merchandise - 1,870,350

AFL Report
22,876,000 + 1,984,000 = 24,860,000

therefore - Match Receipts = 25,692,602 - 24,860,000 = 832,602
GWS MAtch Receipts/Memberships and Merchandise = 832,602 + 1870350 = $2,702,952

Amended first post.

Match Returns (Membership/Season Tickets & Gate)

GWS – $2,702,952 (includes merch)
Swans - Sydney – $16,375,126 (+ $766k in merch)

Parramatta - $2,762,078 (+693k in merch)
Penrith - $2,250,000 (+1.398m in merch)
Roosters - $1,798,624 (+518k in merch/royalties) + possible 1.7m in members subs.
Bulldogs - $2,273,274 (+$995k in merch)
Sharks -$973,042 + possible $2,092,248 in members subs. (+1.6m in merch)


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The_Wookie wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:21 pm
Terry wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:49 pm
The_Wookie wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:42 pm


you can ask. But i really dont feel like helping you out today, Pal.
Thanks pal. Sorry to worry you. It's just that I can't find any figures that add up to that amount in the AR. No doubt it is my ignorance. I will take another look and let you know what I come up with.

Cheers pal!!!!!!
Ok my first figure is wrong, because i didnt caculuate in 1.984m in other AFL distributions.

Its because the match receipts and the AFL distribution are combined in the GWS report, To get the match reciepts you need to subtract the AFL Distribution which isnt listed in the GWS report, but is listed in the AFL repor.

GWS Report -
AFL Distributions and Match Reciepts - 25,692,602
Membership and Merchandise - 1,870,350

AFL Report
22,876,000 + 1,984,000 = 24,860,000

therefore - Match Receipts = 25,692,602 - 24,860,000 = 832,602
GWS MAtch Receipts/Memberships and Merchandise = 832,602 + 1870350 = $2,702,952

Amended first post.

Match Returns (Membership/Season Tickets & Gate)

GWS – $2,702,952 (includes merch)
Swans - Sydney – $16,375,126 (+ $766k in merch)

Parramatta - $2,762,078 (+693k in merch)
Penrith - $2,250,000 (+1.398m in merch)
Roosters - $1,798,624 (+518k in merch/royalties) + possible 1.7m in members subs.
Bulldogs - $2,273,274 (+$995k in merch)
Sharks -$973,042 + possible $2,092,248 in members subs. (+1.6m in merch)
Thanks pal. That's the figure I came up with. Having perused AR's from different sports its seems it is rather hard to have direct comparisons due to the differing methods of reporting. It does however seem rather strange GWS add match receipts with AFL distribution. No other AFL club reports it that way that I have perused.

And when comparing GWS with GC Suns there is a massive difference. GC had average crowds of 13.5k & membership of 12k and showed $7.5M for membership/ticketing/merch for 2018. GWS had 12k avg crowds and 25k membership for $2.7M. By the numbers GWS should have taken more money. Instead they barely got 1/3 of the Suns amount. Weird!!!



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Actually my figure was slightly different to Wookies. It was reported that GWS got additional support of $2.5M from the AFL during 2018. Meaning GWS' total would have been $2.2M all up for members/ticketing/merch. However the money was in 2 separate loans so there is a possibility the half mill loan may have fallen into another financial year.

Having said that Wookie says his numbers are from the AFL AR so that is probably correct.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gia ... 51845.html



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Terry wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:59 pm


And when comparing GWS with GC Suns there is a massive difference. GC had average crowds of 13.5k & membership of 12k and showed $7.5M for membership/ticketing/merch for 2018. GWS had 12k avg crowds and 25k membership for $2.7M. By the numbers GWS should have taken more money. Instead they barely got 1/3 of the Suns amount. Weird!!!
Depends in the form of income. 10-11 game memberships will be worth more than the 3 game memberships which i suspect makes up a lot of GWS members. (3 games in Canberra, 8 games in Sydney...but people only buying to see the teams they want). I think GWS have more juniors as well, and no one is really sure how Auskick fees interact with club memberships any more.

Theyd do better than GWS would for traveling supporters from Brisbane, and have better weather.


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Terry wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:22 pm
Actually my figure was slightly different to Wookies. It was reported that GWS got additional support of $2.5M from the AFL during 2018. Meaning GWS' total would have been $2.2M all up for members/ticketing/merch. However the money was in 2 separate loans so there is a possibility the half mill loan may have fallen into another financial year.

Having said that Wookie says his numbers are from the AFL AR so that is probably correct.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gia ... 51845.html
Update: I've taken a look at the AFL AR 2018. The 'other' distributions Wookie spoke about do not relate to the loans given by the AFL.



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Terry wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:21 pm
Update: I've taken a look at the AFL AR 2018. The 'other' distributions Wookie spoke about do not relate to the loans given by the AFL.
The loans typically arent considered part of the distibution either. Page 24 of the GWS report states the club received 23.234m in distributions, and a 750k loan in 2018.

Page 25 confirms total funds provided by the AFL in 2019 were 23.785m which might account for that half a million.


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