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Don't take as gospel the ranting of paranoid rugby league journos, one bitter anti-AFL councillor and our silly throwball friends here, look at the facts and why Leichhardt Council's own report recommends AFL be played at Birchgrove Oval (note: AFL NSW/ACT actually requested Glover St Oval not Birchgrove Oval).

I did my own research and low and behold, of all the sporting codes in Leichhardt LGA, ONLY Rugby League puts forward the case that the Australian Football/AFL (despite being established in Balmain in 1903... well before Rugby League) has no right to be in the Leichhardt LGA and should look elsewhere. They don't however object to sharing grounds with soccer, rugby union, cricket or even baseball but AFL. FFS, how paranoid are these people (check their response to the Council's recommendations out in Table 2 in the link below). :roll:

Again take note of why Leichhardt Council are recommending AFL and Rugby League share Birchgrove Oval as a comprimise for all sporting codes. Seems reasonable enough to me.
LEICHHARDT MUNICIPAL COUNCIL REPORT and RECOMMENDATIONS

http://www.leichhardt.nsw.gov.au/Igniti ... 12-ord.pdf

AFL - the need to establish an AFL facility within the LGA (currently none)

As a sporting activity AFL has had a presence in the Leichhardt area since 1903. The Balmain Australian Football Club was one of the founding member clubs of the Sydney Football League which was established in 1903.

The present day Balmain Dockers has a player base of 270 local players. The club has no training or competition venues within the Leichhardt LGA with the majority of its training and competition format taking place in the Canada Bay LGA. Through the support of Sydney AFL the club has identified a need to develop junior AFL participation at the local level and currently runs a successful after school programme (Auskick) at Orange Grove Public School. They have also held two gala days at Birchgrove Oval which included a number of local school students. As part of the expressions of interest process AFL has sought access to Glover Street sporting ground for junior AFL. Strategically, Council officers would advocate that in the longer term, AFL needs a larger sporting ground than can be provided at the Glover Street site and one which can also cater for both junior and senior AFL competition games.

While a junior AFL ground is possible at the Glover Street sporting ground it could not coexist with baseball as the sporting ground is not large enough to cater for both sports. An additional problem would also exist whereby the baseball mound would encroach on to the playing area. This is currently a problem which exists with rugby league/union and baseball at Blackmore Park requiring the costly removal of the baseball mound at the end of each sporting season.

Having strategically reviewed current recreational provision the most suitable ground for AFL in the Leichhardt LGA is at Birchgrove Oval. Birchgrove Oval is large enough and the correct shape (oval rather than square) to cater for junior games as well as provide access to a full sized AFL ground. Historically AFL has strong links to Birchgrove Oval having been played at the park from 1903 through to 1926. It is therefore recommended therefore that Balmain and District Soccer are relocated from Brichgrove Park to the Glover Street playing fields to allow for the development of an AFL training and competition format at Birchgrove Park.
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It all makes sense. The AR team needs an Oval, while the Soccer teams could survive on a smaller retangular surface. If AFL could be played on Brichgrove park (which I assume is to small) then they would, but the only suitable space in the area is Birchgrove Oval. I assume the AR team has said we might as well play on an out of district oval because of the witch hunt this issue has caused.
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It all makes sense. The AR team needs an Oval, while the Soccer teams could survive on a smaller retangular surface. If AFL could be played on Brichgrove park (which I assume is to small) then they would, but the only suitable space in the area is Birchgrove Oval. I assume the AR team has said we might as well play on an out of district oval because of the witch hunt this issue has caused.
The AFL has been given Glover St which is what they always wanted if you read the report linked in the OP.

Meanwhile AFL lobbying has paid off. We now have a new ground with new facilities just for us to be built in the Leichhardt LGA. Take that Leaguies and learn we always get our way. :(/ :(/ :(/
AFL NSW/ACT Statement


Please see the following statement from AFL NSW/ACT regarding the ground allocation by Leichhardt Municipal Council.

AFL NSW/ACT would like to thank Leichhardt Council for its decision to grant access to the Glover Street sporting grounds in Lilyfield for AFL activity on Tuesday and Thursday evenings, and Sunday mornings.

We would also like to re-iterate that at no point in the application process did we request access to Birchgrove Oval, and we are in full support of the council’s proposed plan to allocate the space to a number of local sporting clubs and organisations.


AFL NSW/ACT General Manager Tom Harley said he was pleased with the council’s decision to allow AFL to be played in the Leichhardt LGA alongside the existing sports in the community.

“The Leichhardt Council has done a commendable job in their efforts to provide equitable access to their limited green space,” he said.

“We greatly respect the history of other sporting codes in the area, but we think it is vital to promote diversity in the sporting options made available to the community.

“AFL is a growing sport in Sydney, and we’re pleased to be able to provide a local offering for the thousands of players, fans and members in the Leichhardt LGA.

“We greatly appreciate the council’s support during the application process, and we are delighted with the outcome tonight.”

AFL NSW/ACT would like to thank the Leichhardt Council for their commitment to providing new, and upgrading existing, sporting and recreation facilities to their constituents, and for their consideration of our application to access green space in their LGA.

AFL NSW/ACT was one of 12 sporting clubs and bodies who responded to a call for expressions of interest from Leichhardt Council concerning the use of green space that had recently become available at the Glover Street and Balmain Road sites in Lilyfield.

Our proposal outlined plans to create a greater opportunity for AFL participation in the area, which had previously not had access to a local facility. Despite this, some 238 club participants are residents who are forced to play outside the Leichhardt LGA.

Additionally, there are over 536 school participants across five schools within the LGA that do not have a local AFL ground to play on; and thousands of residents of the area are members and attendees at AFL matches.

AFL NSW/ACT is committed to providing a variety of programs across all levels of the community, as part of a larger suite of sporting options available to the local population.

The opportunity to access new green space in the Leichhardt Council area will benefit a variety of community members, from the Balmain Dockers Women’s AFL Club right through to the youngest participants involved in Auskick.

http://www.aflnswact.com.au/index.php?i ... 3e7e0cf2e1
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It looks like AFL NSW/ACT only responded to the council, who were looking for interested parties to play in the local area. One possibility was that the AFL NSW/ACT submitted some paper work with potential people who may want to play in the area. When they were asked how many of them were locals of the area they gave them the new figures. The rest looks like a witch hunt by a pro code war Sydney media, which I found rather funny. The AFL NSW/ACT simply wanted no part in any of it and withdrew their application. It is rather amusing the way the local RL supporters are angry over a nothing issue. I believe that Occam's razor would suggest that what I have stated is the most likely situation and the lie/coverup story that some are suggesting sounds like the work of tin hat wearers.
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Beaussie wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
It all makes sense. The AR team needs an Oval, while the Soccer teams could survive on a smaller retangular surface. If AFL could be played on Brichgrove park (which I assume is to small) then they would, but the only suitable space in the area is Birchgrove Oval. I assume the AR team has said we might as well play on an out of district oval because of the witch hunt this issue has caused.
The AFL has been given Glover St which is what they always wanted if you read the report linked in the OP.

Meanwhile AFL lobbying has paid off. We now have a new ground with new facilities just for us to be built in the Leichhardt LGA. Take that Leaguies and learn we always get our way. :(/ :(/ :(/
Oh I guess they got access for their participents which is all they were looking for in the first place. I guess the code war media failed to mention that, which is very propaganda like. They were all about ......we chased the infidel to the borders after decimating their forces. What a surprise.
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So the AFL back down after being prooven as liars again. Fact beaussie, ha ha, fact the AFL are willing to tell porkies to try and get what they want.

Fact :^o , no just another fib by the AFL that is so graciously supported by the one and only Beaussie. Gone quite again on your thread beaussie, and you stated fact 8-[ .

Great research, are you sure your not a closet league fan. This just shows your code is a pack of liars. You posted the official document that was submitted to the council by the AFL and it was all made up, OH I am surprise :lol: :lol: . It is just like your TV rating ratings

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''After the revelations about their actual number of local players, the NSW AFL specifically requested not to be allocated to Birchgrove Oval,'' Byrne said.
In the local AFL body's original submission to council, it was claimed they had 1644 registered players before later reducing the total to 238.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z22UUxb9fH
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Dogs wrote:
So the AFL back down after being prooven as liars again. Fact beaussie, ha ha, fact the AFL are willing to tell porkies to try and get what they want.

Fact :^o , no just another fib by the AFL that is so graciously supported by the one and only Beaussie. Gone quite again on your thread beaussie, and you stated fact 8-[ .

Great research, are you sure your not a closet league fan. This just shows your code is a pack of liars. You posted the official document that was submitted to the council by the AFL and it was all made up, OH I am surprise :lol: :lol: . It is just like your TV rating ratings

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''After the revelations about their actual number of local players, the NSW AFL specifically requested not to be allocated to Birchgrove Oval,'' Byrne said.
In the local AFL body's original submission to council, it was claimed they had 1644 registered players before later reducing the total to 238.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z22UUxb9fH
Wrong. :roll:

The AFL only ever applied to play in the municipality, not birchgrove specifically. That was just a Sydney media beat up. :roll:

The initial AFL numbers were part of an expression of interest, as were submitted by all codes, and were never even disputed. The final submission included revised numbers after a more accurate analysis. Having said that it's a bit silly to go off participation numbers in a municipality that has limited access to facilities because participants were required to travel to adjacent regions to play ARs. Therefore the original numbers were probably more relevant.

So you got sucked in by the Sydney medias code wars agenda like most NRL fools. :roll:
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Xman wrote:
Dogs wrote:
So the AFL back down after being prooven as liars again. Fact beaussie, ha ha, fact the AFL are willing to tell porkies to try and get what they want.

Fact :^o , no just another fib by the AFL that is so graciously supported by the one and only Beaussie. Gone quite again on your thread beaussie, and you stated fact 8-[ .

Great research, are you sure your not a closet league fan. This just shows your code is a pack of liars. You posted the official document that was submitted to the council by the AFL and it was all made up, OH I am surprise :lol: :lol: . It is just like your TV rating ratings

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''After the revelations about their actual number of local players, the NSW AFL specifically requested not to be allocated to Birchgrove Oval,'' Byrne said.
In the local AFL body's original submission to council, it was claimed they had 1644 registered players before later reducing the total to 238.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z22UUxb9fH
Wrong. :roll:

The AFL only ever applied to play in the municipality, not birchgrove specifically. That was just a Sydney media beat up. :roll:

The initial AFL numbers were part of an expression of interest, as were submitted by all codes, and were never even disputed. The final submission included revised numbers after a more accurate analysis. Having said that it's a bit silly to go off participation numbers in a municipality that has limited access to facilities because participants were required to travel to adjacent regions to play ARs. Therefore the original numbers were probably more relevant.

So you got sucked in by the Sydney medias code wars agenda like most NRL fools. :roll:
A new analysis that found not even 15% of the original submission numbers. How did the AFL in NSW get it that wrong. It is called stretching the truth and this one was ridiculous. :sick:
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Dogs wrote:
Xman wrote:
Dogs wrote:
So the AFL back down after being prooven as liars again. Fact beaussie, ha ha, fact the AFL are willing to tell porkies to try and get what they want.

Fact :^o , no just another fib by the AFL that is so graciously supported by the one and only Beaussie. Gone quite again on your thread beaussie, and you stated fact 8-[ .

Great research, are you sure your not a closet league fan. This just shows your code is a pack of liars. You posted the official document that was submitted to the council by the AFL and it was all made up, OH I am surprise :lol: :lol: . It is just like your TV rating ratings

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''After the revelations about their actual number of local players, the NSW AFL specifically requested not to be allocated to Birchgrove Oval,'' Byrne said.
In the local AFL body's original submission to council, it was claimed they had 1644 registered players before later reducing the total to 238.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z22UUxb9fH
Wrong. :roll:

The AFL only ever applied to play in the municipality, not birchgrove specifically. That was just a Sydney media beat up. :roll:

The initial AFL numbers were part of an expression of interest, as were submitted by all codes, and were never even disputed. The final submission included revised numbers after a more accurate analysis. Having said that it's a bit silly to go off participation numbers in a municipality that has limited access to facilities because participants were required to travel to adjacent regions to play ARs. Therefore the original numbers were probably more relevant.

So you got sucked in by the Sydney medias code wars agenda like most NRL fools. :roll:
A new analysis that found not even 15% of the original submission numbers. How did the AFL in NSW get it that wrong. It is called stretching the truth and this one was ridiculous. :sick:
They didn't get the numbers wrong. The initial expression of interest included a broad player search by post code. When they went to submit their final submission they did a more focused analysis.

The bs about fudging numbers, being caught out and forced to resubmit, and applying but failing to gain access to birchgrove was all just a fantasy by the Sydney media to sell papers to morons like you. :roll:
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ffs Mumble, do you ever not make excuses?

Fuck you are pathetic :lol:
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ffs Mumble, do you ever not make excuses?

**** you are pathetic :lol:
So facts are excuses are they? :-k :roll:
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The facts are my blind ****** is that the AFL got busted lying and you still back them on this, you are fucking pathetic.
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The facts are my blind ****** is that the AFL got busted lying and you still back them on this, you are ******* pathetic.
They never got busted. Their actual submission had the correct numbers!

Since when we're they asked to resubmit new numbers? They weren't. They revised them after a more detailed analysis. These are the facts but you don't like them because as usual they don't suite your bias!

You are pathetic! :lol:
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They got busted fair and square Mumble, how embarrassing :lol: :lol: :lol:
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They got busted fair and square Mumble, how embarrassing :lol: :lol: :lol:
no, whats embarrassing is that you believe everything the Sydney media say about code wars! :lol: :lol:
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