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Okay, I think a change of tack is needed here. I left because I figured things would dry up, but with Onions still swearing like a sailor and now this Truthsayer trying to inject some sense and getting nowhere that hasn't worked. So I'm back, but this will be my ONLY post on The Fight Club. I will be active on other boards that I'm a mod on, and as of now KE, Raider, CrocMan and Onions are all banned from those boards. Any posts from them will be burned on sight (except for KE's AFL tips).

Now I'll just address some lies and other matters in here, starting with the assertion that I'm Truthsayer.

1. Truthsayer has been defending the AFL drug policy to an unacceptable level. Being totally reliant on rehab won't resolve the real problem, and that's suppliers. I've always said that they are the issue. Neither AFL policy nor NRL policy address it. It's pie in the sky stuff to suggest that if full rehab had been done from the very beginning (ie Ancient Greece for goodness sakes!) we wouldn't have a drug problem. The dark ages took care of that! I'm totally against ignoring the part suppliers play and they should be thrown in jail and have the key thrown away. (Also, Truthsayer, the word is "aversives" and not "adversives") Drug users should be in rehab full time and not be permitted to play until they are clean

2. It's laughable for KE to suggest that the reason I don't follow an AFL team is because of tanking. I haven't followed an AFL team since well before priority picks were introduced. In fact I dumped the league when it was still the VFL. I follow the grass roots because they need the financial support. The AFL and it's clubs don't care about the grass roots unless it benefits them. For the record after Bailey's confession it looks like the priority picks are going to go, and the mid season draft being proposed may in fact resolve the issue.

3. My position on Raider being banned was proven justified with the following comment;
turnip is just all torn up ... in knots he is

swearing .. cursing .. spittal flying out of his mouth everywhere
his affliction ( Tourette Syndrome ) turning all manor of lights on & off in his head
cats being kicked
chairs being thrown over
medication being consumed ....

thats the " Raider " effect
hmmmm...... affected this one good
This is called intentional troublemaking and attention seeking. Truthsayer called Raider sick, and I agree. None of his arguments show any understanding of the AFL and the game itself, something that I know a lot more about with my umpiring experience. Truthsayer also picked on Raider's vocabulary and sentence structure, which to me was perhaps taking things a bit too far. It's more a case of not really caring what he said rather than any lack of knowledge of putting sentences together as such. That's the nature of the Internet and the way some people use it when they're bored and have nothing to do. I cite the sickos who invade Facebook and slap around dead people in a sick and twisted manner. Raider's conduct is the same and that's the core reason why I demanded he be banned when I left.

4. I'll take this opportunity to address the argument of grand final draws and draws in general. A draw in the AFL is far more exciting than a draw in any other sport. The nature and length of the game means that extra time generally is not desirable on several levels, along with the fact that as already pointed out they don't happen very often. Onions pointed out that the VFL/AFL have only had three in grand finals. I'll add to that by noting the humour surrounding the second, the one year when the VFL and the NSWRL had a grand final draw in the same year - prompting an ABC reporter to quip "What next? A dead heat in the Melbourne Cup?" It was more of a concern to the NRL that they had another grand final draw the very next year. IIRC both games were extremely low scoring, which in that "game" increases the likelihood of a draw. I am against extra time in a grand final. We don't need it and in fact it provides extra revenue for the clubs involved. The challenge should be to win a game in regular time. To win it in extra time is a farce and a joke because it wouldn't prove who the best team is on the day. It would only prove who was better in the extra time period. That's wrong and shouldn't be supported. The only reason the AFL has extra time for regular finals is because we have to make sure the MCG is vacant for the cricket season. If we didn't have that restraint we wouldn't have extra time at all. Local grass roots football is under a similar restraint.

I'll close this comment by echoing the laughter of Onions regarding the claim that the NRL was winning the war. I wasn't aware that a war on The Fight Club would be one that would actually have a real effect on the war that really matters - attendances, memberships and OzTam TV ratings totals. The reality is that it doesn't. NRL supporters on this board are here just to make themselves feel important while they struggle to catch Australia's truly national game and the third highest attended in the world. The AFL's average attendance is still more than double that of the NRL. The membership base in similarly inclined. And the TV ratings are the biggest worry when one considers that AFL is not a sport that translates as well to TV as it does live. NRL does translate well to TV, and yet the AFL is still winning where it counts to advertisers - in the capital cities.

That's all I have to say on this board.
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TLPG wrote:
Okay, I think a change of tack is needed here. I left because I figured things would dry up, but with Onions still swearing like a sailor and now this Truthsayer trying to inject some sense and getting nowhere that hasn't worked. So I'm back, but this will be my ONLY post on The Fight Club. I will be active on other boards that I'm a mod on, and as of now KE, Raider, CrocMan and Onions are all banned from those boards. Any posts from them will be burned on sight (except for KE's AFL tips).

Now I'll just address some lies and other matters in here, starting with the assertion that I'm Truthsayer.

1. Truthsayer has been defending the AFL drug policy to an unacceptable level. Being totally reliant on rehab won't resolve the real problem, and that's suppliers. I've always said that they are the issue. Neither AFL policy nor NRL policy address it. It's pie in the sky stuff to suggest that if full rehab had been done from the very beginning (ie Ancient Greece for goodness sakes!) we wouldn't have a drug problem. The dark ages took care of that! I'm totally against ignoring the part suppliers play and they should be thrown in jail and have the key thrown away. (Also, Truthsayer, the word is "aversives" and not "adversives") Drug users should be in rehab full time and not be permitted to play until they are clean

2. It's laughable for KE to suggest that the reason I don't follow an AFL team is because of tanking. I haven't followed an AFL team since well before priority picks were introduced. In fact I dumped the league when it was still the VFL. I follow the grass roots because they need the financial support. The AFL and it's clubs don't care about the grass roots unless it benefits them. For the record after Bailey's confession it looks like the priority picks are going to go, and the mid season draft being proposed may in fact resolve the issue.

3. My position on Raider being banned was proven justified with the following comment;
turnip is just all torn up ... in knots he is

swearing .. cursing .. spittal flying out of his mouth everywhere
his affliction ( Tourette Syndrome ) turning all manor of lights on & off in his head
cats being kicked
chairs being thrown over
medication being consumed ....

thats the " Raider " effect
hmmmm...... affected this one good
This is called intentional troublemaking and attention seeking. Truthsayer called Raider sick, and I agree. None of his arguments show any understanding of the AFL and the game itself, something that I know a lot more about with my umpiring experience. Truthsayer also picked on Raider's vocabulary and sentence structure, which to me was perhaps taking things a bit too far. It's more a case of not really caring what he said rather than any lack of knowledge of putting sentences together as such. That's the nature of the Internet and the way some people use it when they're bored and have nothing to do. I cite the sickos who invade Facebook and slap around dead people in a sick and twisted manner. Raider's conduct is the same and that's the core reason why I demanded he be banned when I left.

4. I'll take this opportunity to address the argument of grand final draws and draws in general. A draw in the AFL is far more exciting than a draw in any other sport. The nature and length of the game means that extra time generally is not desirable on several levels, along with the fact that as already pointed out they don't happen very often. Onions pointed out that the VFL/AFL have only had three in grand finals. I'll add to that by noting the humour surrounding the second, the one year when the VFL and the NSWRL had a grand final draw in the same year - prompting an ABC reporter to quip "What next? A dead heat in the Melbourne Cup?" It was more of a concern to the NRL that they had another grand final draw the very next year. IIRC both games were extremely low scoring, which in that "game" increases the likelihood of a draw. I am against extra time in a grand final. We don't need it and in fact it provides extra revenue for the clubs involved. The challenge should be to win a game in regular time. To win it in extra time is a farce and a joke because it wouldn't prove who the best team is on the day. It would only prove who was better in the extra time period. That's wrong and shouldn't be supported. The only reason the AFL has extra time for regular finals is because we have to make sure the MCG is vacant for the cricket season. If we didn't have that restraint we wouldn't have extra time at all. Local grass roots football is under a similar restraint.

I'll close this comment by echoing the laughter of Onions regarding the claim that the NRL was winning the war. I wasn't aware that a war on The Fight Club would be one that would actually have a real effect on the war that really matters - attendances, memberships and OzTam TV ratings totals. The reality is that it doesn't. NRL supporters on this board are here just to make themselves feel important while they struggle to catch Australia's truly national game and the third highest attended in the world. The AFL's average attendance is still more than double that of the NRL. The membership base in similarly inclined. And the TV ratings are the biggest worry when one considers that AFL is not a sport that translates as well to TV as it does live. NRL does translate well to TV, and yet the AFL is still winning where it counts to advertisers - in the capital cities.

That's all I have to say on this board.
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TLPG wrote:
Okay, I think a change of tack is needed here. I left because I figured things would dry up, but with Onions still swearing like a sailor and now this Truthsayer trying to inject some sense and getting nowhere that hasn't worked. So I'm back, but this will be my ONLY post on The Fight Club. I will be active on other boards that I'm a mod on, and as of now KE, Raider, CrocMan and Onions are all banned from those boards. Any posts from them will be burned on sight (except for KE's AFL tips).
TLPG. Who do you think you are? How dare you come back to this board and state that you will "burn" any posts by any individual irrespective if that post has any merit. Who do you think you are. I call upon Beau to immediately take your moderator status off you. You are not the type of individual who merits having the status of moderator. Unless you realize that forums exist due to free speech within the guidelines set out you have no place here.
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Post by King-Eliagh »

TLPG Welcome back my man! :\:

I thought it was a bit harsh though to say raider's behaviour is akin to those who post horrible messages on dead peoples facebook pages. Please! Raider is having a joke and making fun of onions but sheesh, onions attacks him all the same. Its just banter and if onions takes offence he has the clear avenue of messaging beaussie who will then advise raider on what is acceptable. IMO onions is enjoying the banter.

This is the "FightClub" remember.

And yes I'm quite concerned now that I am not able to post anything on the umpteen other boards which you moderate. Although I quite like the symbolism attached to "burning" any of our posts :lol: This is funny because I just cant help thinking of Gudhafi. But it's not within the guidelines at all, a real issue and if I have to crusade once again for our basic rights here at TF, I will. And I warn you TLPG, I'll win again. Because the truth and goodness will always prevail over the false and evilness :D

Apart from that I think there were some fair and good comments in there and have no problems with TLPG/aka Gudhafi returning :wink:
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I'm with Sleeper for fucking once! Fuck off, TLPG, and go back to where you fucking were the last fucking fortnight and fucking stay there!!
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I am soooooo terrified TLPG. Now run off and play Adolf Hitler in your bunker while the real fighters fight to the death on The Fight Club :evil:
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And so it has started TLPG has deleted one of my posts in the AFL section where he has moderator status. Just to let everyone know what he said to me here is his PM to me. I feel quite within my right to show all here as I feel it's important to let everyone know what is going on inside this persons mind.

Post Edit: Private Messages are just that... Private.

You need to get your facts straight pal. You clearly stated in this thread that

"I will be active on other boards that I'm a mod on, and as of now KE, Raider, CrocMan and Onions are all banned from those boards. Any posts from them will be burned on sight (except for KE's AFL tips)."


There was no mention of acting within the guidlines, just a straight out "as of now KE, Raider, CrocMan and Onions are all banned from those boards. Any posts from them will be burned on sight (except for KE's AFL tips)."

Again I state that you have no credibility, you are not a man of your word, you clearly threatened that you would leave the site if your conditions of certain members being banned where not met. When this didn't happen you supposedly left, but you didn't leave but instead you where visiting here under an alias (your name {TLPG} never appeared on the who is on list). Then when you couldn't stand it any more and have come back threatening to "burn" peoples post and banning them from all boards you are a mod on. Once again I say who do you think you are. I call once again for Beau to remove you as a moderator. If Beau does not remove you as a moderator I call upon all posters to blacklist any board you are a moderator on to let Beau know that you are not wanted or have a place as a mod on this board.
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Why do I see this posting from Mr Mark as threatening to Mr TLPG? I can certainly understand why he would wish to restrict Mr Raider and Mr Onions, and I suppose to a degree Mr Eliagh although I am not having any major issues with him myself. Mr "CrocMan" I don't know as I have never seen him post.

Mr Mark, am I to take it that you do not believe Mr TLPG has the right to act on the false accusation he mentioned? I have already taken my own action and I presume Mr TLPG was not aware of this so he would be right to want to seek to take action also. Are you suggesting that he (Mr TLPG) has no right to defend himself? If you are then perhaps it is you who's position as a moderator should perhaps be scrutinised.

I will say however that the "burn on sight" scenario is not exactly the best. That perhaps requires a clarification if there is an underlying message there that we are not seeing. Another case of poor communication perhaps? Although I can not see how.
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Let's get one thing clear here, TLPG has been caught saying one thing then tries to say in his pm to me that was not what he said but he can't deny itbecause he has no mod status on this board and can't delete posts that he doesn't like here. That's why I put it here to let others know what is going on.

Truthslayer cut the act your not that good at it. Yeah, Yeah your going to come back with "MR Mark what act are you talking about" but we all know, so give it up.
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So you are going the chorus that I'm TLPG? If so I demand a retraction of that instantly. It is completely false and you can not justify it. If you wish to have an explanation for the difference you are describing (you are correct about this) then perhaps you should send a reply to his PM and ask.
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Truthsayer wrote:
So you are going the chorus that I'm TLPG? If so I demand a retraction of that instantly. It is completely false and you can not justify it. If you wish to have an explanation for the difference you are describing (you are correct about this) then perhaps you should send a reply to his PM and ask.
No need to do it in a PM do it here and put your explanation out there for everyone to see. This will be good.
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I meant PM Mr TLPG just to clarify. I have no clue what the reason is for the difference and I don't even know if there is one. I'd like to know as much as you do.
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Ok, I will play the game, lets have TLPG explain how he knew what was going on in the board when he never appeared on the "who visited the site in the last day list" at the bottom of the board. There was no TLPG there but there was a lot of TruthSlayer.

Lets have him do that here so that all the doubting Thomases can see his explanation also.
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I concur. Just one problem that I can see. He did say that he wouldn't be posting again on The Fight Club did he not? That is why I suggested the PM, but it's up to you if you wish to go in this direction.
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Truthsayer wrote:
I concur. Just one problem that I can see. He did say that he wouldn't be posting again on The Fight Club did he not? That is why I suggested the PM, but it's up to you if you wish to go in this direction.
That's right he did say he wasn't going to post, he said nothing about reading it though. He also said he wouldn't return to this site but he has and I feel confident that he has already read the above. Seeing he is a man of "lack" of his word he can post here. It wouldn't break any rules that he hasn't already broken.
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