silent but deadly....

Scorger Man · Post by **Scorger Man** » Sat May 15, 2010 7:36 pm

We can all carry on about the AFL v NRL war but the silent killer will be soccer, mark my words.

It is the most played code in the junior ranks and with the Socceroos making it's second consecutive World Cup and having the likes of Kewell and Cahill making the game more then appealling - the focus is shifting from 'Austcentric' codes.

Also, with the debarcle of salary cap issues, what do you think the is the more financially appealling code???

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:29 pm

To the last paragraph first - AFL. There's more money there and if the NRL don't raise theirs, there will be more players to follow Folau and Hunt.

Yes - Soccer is a bigger threat because it is seen by parents as the safest. I personally call that an over reaction by parents and we'll end up creating a nation of wimps in the next generation. Sorry - but that's how much I hate soccer and find it so bloody boring! However I disagree that at junior level it has the highest numbers. AFL still has the lead there up to the end of primary school because of Auskick.

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:13 pm

TLPG wrote:
However I disagree that at junior level it [soccer] has the highest numbers. AFL still has the lead there up to the end of primary school because of Auskick.

Deary deary me,

The phony strikes again

Firstly to scorgerman. My apologies mate for not spotting and reprimanding TLPG for this nonsense earlier. I'll try not let this happen again.

Now to TLPG

Firstly, I cant believe the hide of you saying soccer is contributing to the development of a generation of wimps. Soccer has never been a high contact sport. I would be much more worried about people like yourself who thinks a player should provide "duty of care" or be suspended in Aussie Rules for tackling.

Secondly, after a quick check of the Bureau of statistics I believe Scorger to be right. Soccer has the higher participation of Juniors in Australia.

I couldnt find stats on players under 15 national wide but from the age of 15 participation in soccer is double that of AFL. (n= 452,000 Soccer --- n= 228,000 AFL) Now either a whole lot of juniors (a few hundred thousand) are dumping the game of AFL at the age of 15 and taking up soccer, or TLPG, you are wrong.

In WA, supposedly AFL heartland, Juniors (aged 5-14) participating in soccer account for 22% of all juniors playing organised sport. AFL accounts for 13.6% This stat from the Department of Sport and Rec WA.

TLPG seeing it's been a year since you silenced him on this topic with your false information I sincerely hope scorger hasnt gone away believing the rubbish you posted above. This would be just the worst.

TLPG, I dont think you should bother trying to save face anymore. An apology would be the best you can do. Written meaningfully to both scorger and myself in separate threads on the issues page of this forum.

In Truth Always,

King

Post by **Beaussie** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:17 pm

Many kids do indeed dump soccer and take up other codes in particular Australian Football when they turn about 15. Have seen reports on that in the past.

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:24 pm

Beaussie I think you've misread. I said it would have to take a few hundred thousand kids to be dumping AFL and taking up soccer at the age of 15 to prove TLPG correct.

But thanks for adding more validity to my post

Show us these reports!!!

TLPG Apologise and beg forgiveness for your sins!

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon May 23, 2011 5:10 pm

Beaussie is right. There is a massive drop off leading up to 15 from AFL over several years (from about 12 or 13). The reason this happens is because the money disappears once a child drops off the AFL production line. The AFL don't care about the grass roots of the game.

I have no sins to confess to, KE. You do. Pure and simple. You lack the experience of the game that I have. I wouldn't be surprised if I started umpiring before you were even born.

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Mon May 23, 2011 5:26 pm

Beaussie wrote:
Many kids do indeed dump soccer and take up other codes in particular Australian Football when they turn about 15.

TLPG wrote:
Beaussie is right. There is a massive drop off leading up to 15 from AFL over several years (from about 12 or 13). The reason this happens is because the money disappears once a child drops off the AFL production line.

Is it just me or are you both stating completely different things???

Very confusing TLPG and consistent with the ramblings of a phony. You also go on about your experience of the game...We're not talking about experience of the game here.

Let's stick to the point. My stats present a very very strong argument that Scorger man is right and soccer is participated in by more juniors in Australia than AFL.

My stats also prove you TLPG have once again stated the untrue as fact.

If you have no credibility you can throw your umpiring pants and your experience of the game in the sewer.

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon May 23, 2011 5:41 pm

You said it yourself. You have no stats from those under the age of 15. I umpire those under 15 and there are more junior footballers than there are soccer players. Simply because there are more clubs.

So shut up and stop talking about something you clearly know nothing about.

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Mon May 23, 2011 5:58 pm

So you take the local area you live in to be representative of the entire nation??

I've additionally presented stats for juniors in WA and they clearly indicate soccer is the number one sport, well ahead of AFL for Juniors to participate in.

I think in my very brief research I've proven myself and scorgerman know a lot more than you about Junior participation rates.

Me and Scorger = Correct

TLPG = Wrong again

Keepin it real folks and signing off for the night.

Your source of truth and justice at talking footy,
KE

:D

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:07 pm

I have umpired matches in Victoria, New South Wales, ACT and Western Australia. I have watched matches in all those states plus SA and Tasmania.

Under 15, AFL is number 1.

Your true source of truth and justice at Talking Footy,
TLPG

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:31 pm

Looks like I've travelled more than you.

I've also proved to anyone who can read that you make things up because you think that you know everything about AFL.

You dont, noone does matey. I'm giving you a good spanking of humility here and I hope it makes you a better person

Best wishes,

The King XX

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon May 23, 2011 6:42 pm

I doubt you've seen or played as much AFL as I'm seen or umpired. Humility? You need a monster sized dose.

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:16 pm

TLPG wrote:
You lack the experience of the game that I have. I wouldn't be surprised if I started umpiring before you were even born.

TLPG wrote:
I umpire those under 15 and there are more junior footballers than there are soccer players. Simply because there are more clubs.

TLPG wrote:
I have umpired matches in Victoria, New South Wales, ACT and Western Australia. I have watched matches in all those states plus SA and Tasmania.
Under 15, AFL is number 1.

TLPG wrote:
I doubt you've seen or played as much AFL as I'm seen or umpired. Humility? You need a monster sized dose.

TLPG you're a disgrace, snap out of it! If I were next to you I'd be slapping you across the face right now and throwing a bucket of water over you!

Take a long look at what you've written above in four separate posts in this thread. It's not all about you. The topic of the thread which Scorger raised is about whether or not there are more juniors playing Soccer or AFL in Australia. I will take stats from the Bureau of Statistics and the Department of Sport and Rec any day over some self obsessed umpires opinion. And so would any other human being and primate on this planet.

Its ok to be wrong, I think even I was wrong once but I faced up and admitted it. Just admit it TLPG and say sorry to me and scorger.

Yoouu lil maggot with a big head yoouu

TLPG · Post by **TLPG** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:23 pm

Only a petulant spoilt brat would post such a personal attack in response. You have no stats for those under 15 by your own admission. So my experience advantage thrashes you.

Enough said.

King-Eliagh · Post by **King-Eliagh** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:38 pm

TLPG wrote:
You have no stats for those under 15 by your own admission.

King-Eliagh wrote:
In WA, supposedly AFL heartland, Juniors (aged 5-14) participating in soccer account for 22% of all juniors playing organised sport. AFL accounts for 13.6% This stat from the Department of Sport and Rec WA.

This is getting out of hand. TLPG I honestly think we need to stop. I feel bad, like your my toddler child and I'm giving you a public belting.

Please feel free to pm me with your apology, then everything will be fine ok, as long as you take the time to say sorry to scorger man next time you see him too.