Talking Footy

Hey cos789.

214Four wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Did anyone notice that 214 ignored my question? Gee whiz I wonder what I said wrong......

I didnt reply because i thought i had already tried to explain the very thing you were asking in my post, you one you replied with your question.

Basically what i tried to say in that post was that the AFL has a different culture when it comes to supporting its sporting teams. an AFL fan will get alot more upset if their team looses than a NRL fan would, some people would call that more passionate. but RL fans are just as or more passionate than an AFL supporter when it comes to the SOO, and i dont see anything wrong with that as NSW or QLD are just another one of our 'teams'.

Now you asked why is this?? I dunno, maybe like in my comment the fact that as a RL fan growing up its programed into you to hate the other state, from your family, friends, media. whereas the club competition there is none of that bar brisbane (well it was the QLD team) and manly.

Maybe the whole 'RL fans have less passion' is not at all correct and it just seems that way because Rugby league has higher levels of the game/more avenues in the game than just the national club competition, and these REP games are also supported strongly by RL fans so their passion is actually not more or less than AFL fans but the same just more spread out.

And maybe it needs to be looked at from a different perspective. for 30 years SOO has always been close, and both states are bitter rivals who hate to loose, and the SOO games have always been entertaining... sounds very much like two top of the table clubs heading into the grandfinal. so maybe thats why theres so much passion for SOO, you AFL guys have to imagine what it would feel if your club was playing in the GF then times it by 3!

I hope now i somewhat answered your question.

Somewhat. But you didn't address the fact that it's a serious problem for the NRL. In fact you defend it as though it's a good thing when in fact like I said it was sucking the game dry. Any passion against the Broncos or Manly pales into insignificance compared to the passion against Collingwood or Port Adelaide for example. The passion against Collingwood in particular would in fact be comparable to the passion between the sides at SOO, just to put that into the correct perspective.

Australia is a sports mad country. When it's third most popular sport has trouble in it's heartland drawing crowds you can't ignore it. You should be addressing it. (AFL and cricket are the top two)

Top 2, yet the NRL crowds shit on Cricket, TV ratings smash it and the TV rights deal is under half what the NRL got, yet it's bigger than RL but not the AFL?

NRLCrap1 wrote:

214Four wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Did anyone notice that 214 ignored my question? Gee whiz I wonder what I said wrong......

I didnt reply because i thought i had already tried to explain the very thing you were asking in my post, you one you replied with your question.

Basically what i tried to say in that post was that the AFL has a different culture when it comes to supporting its sporting teams. an AFL fan will get alot more upset if their team looses than a NRL fan would, some people would call that more passionate. but RL fans are just as or more passionate than an AFL supporter when it comes to the SOO, and i dont see anything wrong with that as NSW or QLD are just another one of our 'teams'.

Now you asked why is this?? I dunno, maybe like in my comment the fact that as a RL fan growing up its programed into you to hate the other state, from your family, friends, media. whereas the club competition there is none of that bar brisbane (well it was the QLD team) and manly.

Maybe the whole 'RL fans have less passion' is not at all correct and it just seems that way because Rugby league has higher levels of the game/more avenues in the game than just the national club competition, and these REP games are also supported strongly by RL fans so their passion is actually not more or less than AFL fans but the same just more spread out.

And maybe it needs to be looked at from a different perspective. for 30 years SOO has always been close, and both states are bitter rivals who hate to loose, and the SOO games have always been entertaining... sounds very much like two top of the table clubs heading into the grandfinal. so maybe thats why theres so much passion for SOO, you AFL guys have to imagine what it would feel if your club was playing in the GF then times it by 3!

I hope now i somewhat answered your question.

Somewhat. But you didn't address the fact that it's a serious problem for the NRL. In fact you defend it as though it's a good thing when in fact like I said it was sucking the game dry. Any passion against the Broncos or Manly pales into insignificance compared to the passion against Collingwood or Port Adelaide for example. The passion against Collingwood in particular would in fact be comparable to the passion between the sides at SOO, just to put that into the correct perspective.

Australia is a sports mad country. When it's third most popular sport has trouble in it's heartland drawing crowds you can't ignore it. You should be addressing it. (AFL and cricket are the top two)

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oh where the fuck do you start with this utter dribble

Collingwood in particular would in fact be comparable to the passion between the sides at SOO

Collington
what club game of theirs has attracted 4.412 Million TV veiwers in Australasia
infact
what GF of theirs has ever attracted interest like that

whats that
none ... nada .. never

uppercuts
unleash them on yr chin at will you fuckwit :_<> :_<> :_<>

What nrl game has?

Raiderdave wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

214Four wrote:

NRLCrap1 wrote:

Did anyone notice that 214 ignored my question? Gee whiz I wonder what I said wrong......

I didnt reply because i thought i had already tried to explain the very thing you were asking in my post, you one you replied with your question.

Basically what i tried to say in that post was that the AFL has a different culture when it comes to supporting its sporting teams. an AFL fan will get alot more upset if their team looses than a NRL fan would, some people would call that more passionate. but RL fans are just as or more passionate than an AFL supporter when it comes to the SOO, and i dont see anything wrong with that as NSW or QLD are just another one of our 'teams'.

Now you asked why is this?? I dunno, maybe like in my comment the fact that as a RL fan growing up its programed into you to hate the other state, from your family, friends, media. whereas the club competition there is none of that bar brisbane (well it was the QLD team) and manly.

Maybe the whole 'RL fans have less passion' is not at all correct and it just seems that way because Rugby league has higher levels of the game/more avenues in the game than just the national club competition, and these REP games are also supported strongly by RL fans so their passion is actually not more or less than AFL fans but the same just more spread out.

And maybe it needs to be looked at from a different perspective. for 30 years SOO has always been close, and both states are bitter rivals who hate to loose, and the SOO games have always been entertaining... sounds very much like two top of the table clubs heading into the grandfinal. so maybe thats why theres so much passion for SOO, you AFL guys have to imagine what it would feel if your club was playing in the GF then times it by 3!

I hope now i somewhat answered your question.

Somewhat. But you didn't address the fact that it's a serious problem for the NRL. In fact you defend it as though it's a good thing when in fact like I said it was sucking the game dry. Any passion against the Broncos or Manly pales into insignificance compared to the passion against Collingwood or Port Adelaide for example. The passion against Collingwood in particular would in fact be comparable to the passion between the sides at SOO, just to put that into the correct perspective.

Australia is a sports mad country. When it's third most popular sport has trouble in it's heartland drawing crowds you can't ignore it. You should be addressing it. (AFL and cricket are the top two)

:_<> :_<>

oh where the fuck do you start with this utter dribble

Collingwood in particular would in fact be comparable to the passion between the sides at SOO

Collington
what club game of theirs has attracted 4.412 Million TV veiwers in Australasia
infact
what GF of theirs has ever attracted interest like that

whats that
none ... nada .. never

uppercuts
unleash them on yr chin at will you fuckwit :_<> :_<> :_<>

SOO is not club footy - it's an exhibition match - yes popular but NOT club footy - upper cuts to that pea brain of yours! Wanker! Care to finally man up and admit you were wrong about Harry Kewell - c'mon stop being a pussy and man up - stop running and face the truth RD!

Still Rugby League, just as test cricket and 20/twenty cricket are still Cricket.

Just as the debate continues to as to whether the short form of the game is killing test cricket. Good analogy actually.

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Still Rugby League, just as test cricket and 20/twenty cricket are still Cricket.

The fact is RL people like to point to 3 games of SOO and say look there you are proof that RL is the most popular sport in Australia! But neglect the fact that the NRL competition is losing ground not just to AFL but Soccer and RU in their MAIN club competition - SOO IS NOT club footy but state rep footy there is nothing to compare it to in AFL, A-League and now RU. They are not apples for apples! So the question is very relevant is it improving RL as a whole or in the long term holding it back? Does RL wants to be a national sport and not just a sport where two states have an involvement? Kids in Vic, SA or WA won't take the sport as a serious alternative if they can't compete at the highest level - thats the point!

ParraEelsNRL wrote:

Top 2, yet the NRL crowds shit on Cricket, TV ratings smash it and the TV rights deal is under half what the NRL got, yet it's bigger than RL but not the AFL?

The size of a game is not judged solely on TV viewers, lame arse! Include the number of players in open age and the crowds and cricket gets ahead of RL. Include the juniors and soccer leap frogs everyone.

Duuuuuuuuuur.

Fmd.

I think it is quite hard to simply say my sport is bigger then yours in OZ. you can talk about certain stats such as TV viewers, sport club participation and club members and say one sport is doing better, but you can't say that one sport has more passion or is bigger (different people judge this differently) then another.

I play baseball and have a passion for that but can clearly see it is not as big as AFL in Australia. Nrl is big in qld and a large portion of Nsw and is growing. Nrl is not matching this growth outside its traditional areas. Previously the nrl administration were quite Sydney centric and believed the game was doing well in popularity because they were in Sydney and could not see beyond this and thinking the popularity in Sydney extendind across Australia or that it only need be popular there as others areas did not matter. Putting the grand final on a Sunday night and stating people had a public holiday the next day was a classic example as only nsw had a public holiday. Putting a team in Melbourne and not doing any grassroots work initially was another. We still do not see rl played at any decent level in Victoria, none more so than other minor sports, probably less, such as hockey, nfl, baseball etc. I would say that hockey and baseball would have a bigger presence actually when you look at the amount of australian baseballers playing in the u.s. when we look at AFL, we see a major effort in expansion, not only at AFL level but at grass roots. 5 leagues in Sydney alone, players across NSw and Sydney playing senior AFL football, the 10 year per planning by the AFL on western Sydney, working with developers on getting them to put AFL size grounds in the urban development, having school built to accommodate AFL grounds , proving AFL goal posts to existing schools, funding junior AFL clubs ... The list goes on. Today, ormeo football club on the Gold Coast opens its new sports precinct of two full size AFL grounds. The club has grown for 32 registered players 3 years ago to around 160 today . These are just examples of the growth of AFL in nsw and qld . Western Sydney is the last major market. Sydney swans already has developed itself in Sydney and has a major presence and following. Western Sydney will be hard, but it would be negligent to do nothing. Crack that and you have AFL dominating .

SOO has fuck all to do with the other states you ninny, and vfl don't play SOO games, so wtf does vfl have to do with this, they can't get the ratings the NRL-ARL does yet you are still here comparing RL to a non existent pretend game in vfl. What a dumbarse.

I'm not sure who you are responding to there eels ?