I talked about possible crowds and you made assumptions. Nothing's really changed you still keep making ill informed assumptions, I never said the preliminary final would get 80k my guess was 50k. Wrong again Dave.Raiderdave wrote:piesman2011 wrote:Wrong as usual Dave I predicted 50k after the forecast of rain ended up with 57kRaiderdave wrote:
yes
& your last effort ?
the prelim final last year
80K you said
& it was 57K
but please by all means continue to make a cock of yourself![]()
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your own CEO ... Andy D yesterday I think , said he didn't think they'd get 30K based on ticket sales
I have info that he will be right
but lets wait & see
35K would be a pass mark
anything less then 30K deserves derision & ridicule & thats just what it will get
This is just after the game.
piesman2011 wrote:I was close to the right figure I predicted 50K and the crowd was 57K not to bad a guess.
you said 80K
then I schooled ya ............ & your nutz shrank
thats how it unfolded knob
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Hi, I'm new here kind of ... And pop on to read more than post. I'm not getting the line of these arguments re crowds . Firstly, RD I am confused as to whether you think a crowd of 20 000 is a good crowd or poor crowd . I know , I know, you are saying that AFL is on the decline in Sydney ... Whether that us true or not is a debate i am happy for you to have with the others here. I don't particularly care... So please don't answer this post with something about that .. Please .
What I want to know is whether you think 20 000 is a good crowd ? Regardless of code. Simple as that .. Could you answer that with a yes or no please. That is all I want to know and hence my post. Please don't confuse the answer by adding ifs and buts etc. yes or no .. Is 20000 a good crowd to a game if footy?
What I want to know is whether you think 20 000 is a good crowd ? Regardless of code. Simple as that .. Could you answer that with a yes or no please. That is all I want to know and hence my post. Please don't confuse the answer by adding ifs and buts etc. yes or no .. Is 20000 a good crowd to a game if footy?
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How'd this pan out for ya?Raiderdave wrote:lets have a ganda at NRL total attendances after 4 rounds since 2004 & examine if in fact they are a cause for major concern , or in fact
Bearsy is a complete fucking wanker![]()
2004 ( 28 games ) 448,814
2005 (28 games ) 492,265
2006 (28 games ) 512,912
2007 (32 games ) 581,801
2008 (32 games) 601,020
2009 (32 games) 596,379
2010 (32 games) 573,179
2011 (32 games) 572,739
2012 (32 games) 539,480
** 2013 (27 games so far ) 510,399
anyone care to bet 2013 won't be the most attended season since 2004 after this round is complete ?
anyone ?

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Dave's wrong? Nah sure not! 

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Drac wrote:How'd this pan out for ya?Raiderdave wrote:lets have a ganda at NRL total attendances after 4 rounds since 2004 & examine if in fact they are a cause for major concern , or in fact
Bearsy is a complete fucking wanker![]()
2004 ( 28 games ) 448,814
2005 (28 games ) 492,265
2006 (28 games ) 512,912
2007 (32 games ) 581,801
2008 (32 games) 601,020
2009 (32 games) 596,379
2010 (32 games) 573,179
2011 (32 games) 572,739
2012 (32 games) 539,480
** 2013 (27 games so far ) 510,399
anyone care to bet 2013 won't be the most attended season since 2004 after this round is complete ?
anyone ?
did you have the balls to take up the bet ?
no ?
was it fear of my track record for being right that scared you off ?
why of course it was





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Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
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Xman wrote:Dave's wrong? Nah sure not!
and another vicky kicky cheerleader with nutz the size of smarties
ol Raiders got em running around like headless chooks
not even a nibble for his bet
they just scatter like cockroaches when ever I make a prediction these days .......



its hilarious ..... simply hilarious



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too many variables to be just a yes or no answer champPhelpsy wrote:Hi, I'm new here kind of ... And pop on to read more than post. I'm not getting the line of these arguments re crowds . Firstly, RD I am confused as to whether you think a crowd of 20 000 is a good crowd or poor crowd . I know , I know, you are saying that AFL is on the decline in Sydney ... Whether that us true or not is a debate i am happy for you to have with the others here. I don't particularly care... So please don't answer this post with something about that .. Please .
What I want to know is whether you think 20 000 is a good crowd ? Regardless of code. Simple as that .. Could you answer that with a yes or no please. That is all I want to know and hence my post. Please don't confuse the answer by adding ifs and buts etc. yes or no .. Is 20000 a good crowd to a game if footy?
20K in Canberra is a great crowd
20K in Brisbane is not
see ?
define your parameters more clearly & I can educate you , as I have done for some time on these pages for so many others
the thing will be if you are prepared to learn
then you will
others in here are more educated for having read my posts but don't ever admit it
the truth being too painful for them

RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
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What Dave means is that for NRL it is a good crowd and for AFL it isnt.
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piesman2011 wrote:What Dave means is that for NRL it is a good crowd and for AFL it isnt.
yes
the broncos do backflips with joy when they draw 20K people..........




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NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
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Re: Dwindling NRL Crowds - a major concern
Raiderdave wrote:Drac wrote:How'd this pan out for ya?Raiderdave wrote:lets have a ganda at NRL total attendances after 4 rounds since 2004 & examine if in fact they are a cause for major concern , or in fact
Bearsy is a complete fucking wanker![]()
2004 ( 28 games ) 448,814
2005 (28 games ) 492,265
2006 (28 games ) 512,912
2007 (32 games ) 581,801
2008 (32 games) 601,020
2009 (32 games) 596,379
2010 (32 games) 573,179
2011 (32 games) 572,739
2012 (32 games) 539,480
** 2013 (27 games so far ) 510,399
anyone care to bet 2013 won't be the most attended season since 2004 after this round is complete ?
anyone ?
did you have the balls to take up the bet ?
no ?
was it fear of my track record for being right that scared you off ?
why of course it was![]()
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Raiderdave wrote:perception is reality
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So you were wrong..... Got itRaiderdave wrote:Xman wrote:Dave's wrong? Nah sure not!
and another vicky kicky cheerleader with nutz the size of smarties
ol Raiders got em running around like headless chooks
not even a nibble for his bet
they just scatter like cockroaches when ever I make a prediction these days .......
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its hilarious ..... simply hilarious![]()
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Re: Dwindling NRL Crowds - a major concern
too many variables to be just a yes or no answer champRaiderdave wrote:Phelpsy wrote:Hi, I'm new here kind of ... And pop on to read more than post. I'm not getting the line of these arguments re crowds . Firstly, RD I am confused as to whether you think a crowd of 20 000 is a good crowd or poor crowd . I know , I know, you are saying that AFL is on the decline in Sydney ... Whether that us true or not is a debate i am happy for you to have with the others here. I don't particularly care... So please don't answer this post with something about that .. Please .
What I want to know is whether you think 20 000 is a good crowd ? Regardless of code. Simple as that .. Could you answer that with a yes or no please. That is all I want to know and hence my post. Please don't confuse the answer by adding ifs and buts etc. yes or no .. Is 20000 a good crowd to a game if footy?
20K in Canberra is a great crowd
20K in Brisbane is not
see ?
define your parameters more clearly & I can educate you , as I have done for some time on these pages for so many others
the thing will be if you are prepared to learn
then you will
others in here are more educated for having read my posts but don't ever admit it
the truth being too painful for them

My bad .. I meant in Sydney . Is 20 000 a good crowd in Sydney for any football code?
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againPhelpsy wrote:
My bad .. I meant in Sydney . Is 20 000 a good crowd in Sydney for any football code
because the NRL in sydney is still a game connected to its suburban roots plays games at a number of venues in the burbs ..
its not a blanket yes or no
many grounds are very small & lack adequte facilities , some barely hold 20K
then theres out of town sides that bring few to no fans with them
the time & day games are played
weather conditions
how teams are travelling ...
lots to consider
so one can really only go on recent history & the broader picture
the fact the NRL has not lost more then 20 fans a game on average in the last 8 seasons in difficult economic times ... with strong competition from live PTV & FTA coverage
while other codes in this same period have had their crowds plummet .... just fall off the charts in the case of a certain victorian game


indicates the NRL is doing fine
just fine

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Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
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Yep, it's still a small suburban comp and nothing more. After all these years it's still not a national competition because the interest just isn't there for the boring pommie game.Raiderdave wrote:againPhelpsy wrote:
My bad .. I meant in Sydney . Is 20 000 a good crowd in Sydney for any football code
because the NRL in sydney is still a game connected to its suburban roots
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7K is a tremendous turnout

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Stewie wrote:Yep, it's still a small suburban comp and nothing more. After all these years it's still not a national competition because the interest just isn't there for the boring pommie game.Raiderdave wrote:againPhelpsy wrote:
because the NRL in sydney is still a game connected to its suburban roots
its a game thats connected to its heritage
it has defined territories in Sydney still spread from the mountains to the sea.... you follow Manly & live in Sydney .. you most probably Live in the Manly Waringah region
you follow the Sharks
you most probably live in the shire
wow
what tribalism ... you & your past is connected to the area your club STILL comes from
this is your history
this is your territory =D> =D> =D>
unlike the souless victorian game in Melb , whos fans do not associate with the historical territory their club comes from
you live in Collingdon
you probably follow any one of ten teams .... same if you live in Richenwood
you follow Carlenscray
no fucking idea why as you have never lived anywhere near there
but you are a confused singlet wearing F wit who must scream baawwwwwwlllllllll at a pack of bumbling fumbling clowns for 3 hrs a week for some reason
at a generic ground that every club in melb plays at

wow
what a karmichael of a snorefest comp

RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Sookerwhos V Japan 238K
