Talking Footy

Pippen1994 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:58 pm

Quolls2019 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:34 pm

Pippen1994 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:47 am

Don't know but odd that you'd boast about placement you pay for

Not odd at all, I agree that the 2 newer AFL clubs are dependant on the AFL, more than the Storm are dependant on the NRL...how much is debatable.
But they recoup it on broadcast rights and sponsorship, and when the AFL stops televising against itself, both those things will go up considerably.
It’s all about money, and both teams will be there for the long haul, because long term they are profitable for the league, not necessarily for themselves. GWS need to consolidate/promote their identity much better which will mean dumping Canberra as a part home.

Can Canberra sustain an AFL team? Yes but will need AFL support for some time and perhaps a wider geographical identity.
In the 70’s/80’s I think they would have been a shoo in.

And if the game wasn’t so popular in Melbourne there might well be more clubs interstate.
Been said for many years that Melbourne/Victoria can’t support so many teams, but they keep surviving...and will do so for the foreseeable future.
AFL has only lost 1 club during their national period and the VFl only 1 during their period.
Success and management, yep teams have had some bad times, and at times the league has tried very hard to get rid off, merge or transfer some....but it only happened once, (and in my humble opinion should not have).
How many teams have the NRL, NSW and Qld top level clubs have gone in that time?
Success breeds success, I will agree that rugby league and the NRL are more popular than Australian Rules and AFL in the northern states, but to say soccer beats AFL is stretching credibility...they are in dire straits....and even they know it.

Soccer is number 1 participation sport in NSW & it's not even close. You can talk shit about auskick numbers but ppl are paying to play soccer. The only advantage you guys have is that the sport is broadcast on the most popular commercial network. Soccer doesn't have a marketing campaign atm. Don't mistake money each respective sport is pouring in to popularity

Fred wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:19 pm

I have no idea as don’t line there. But given the number of players, leagues etc it would have to be 1000 to 1 compared to rl in Victoria on most measures.

Fred wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 11:11 pm

Oh my crapper. I am cognisant of your challenges and unlike my man Terry I get you honestly are asking this rather than having a lark like Terry and I. So here goes again ... I am unsure whether you read the earlier stuff or not but hey... I will do what I can to put it in chunks for ease of digesting.

1. There are many measures that we can look at.

2. As said, if we go on junior playing numbers soccer would possibly be one of the most popular right across the country. But, it is but one measure. No one thinks soccer is the most popular code in the country. A lot of people play soccer. Agreed.

3. As I and others have pointed out.. on many other measures Australian Rules does very well in Sydney in comparison to soccer. These being: Crowds, TV ratings, Members, Revenue. I’m unsure on media coverage, as like you do not live in Sydney, but I am guessing Aussie rules goes okay when compared to soccer but happy to be corrected. So when we take all the metrics noted it would seem Aussie rules football would be doing better than soccer. And tv ratings, which you and other nrl cult members quote constantly as evidence of popularity of the NRL, clearly has the AFL out rating the soccer. Don’t see too many dedicated soccer shows on fta either.

Fred wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 8:50 am

Okay. Let’s try this one more time. AFL TV ratings compared to soccers. Which is doing better in Sydney?

Crowds... again you may like to say the Suns and giants are serial fudgers but again, no proof. But hey, let’s take them out (not sure why Suns are mentioned anyway) and let’s use your metric of what you think you see on TV re: crowds. Do you think the swans get more than a league games in Sydney?

Media coverage. Can you provide what portion is paid ? I know the AFL have done this which is fine and usually states it is paid content. Are you saying there isn’t I paid coverage of gsmes? Plus with a lot of media content being national these days we see much more AFL. Mayo even shows the local Sydney league I see on their freebies. But I’m not in Sydney so would be interested to know how much is Aussie rules and how much soccer. To simply dismiss figures by saying “oh it’s paid for” or “oh the figures are fudged” is easy to do without proof but happy if there is any.

baselinepanther wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:11 am

with ol fwedy preaching and bashing tamborines about all these new skinny lil white boys n girls north of the murray having their hand and eye coordination skills seriously diminished in tight shorts n singlets

youd think this would translate to bigger crowds and tv audiences

but this isnt the case at all
hmmmmmm

seems im right about participation numbers

NlolRL wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:04 am

Seems you're either colour blind or a racist

baselinepanther wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:55 pm

NlolRL wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:04 am

Seems you're either colour blind or a racist

racist ?
well I'd be right at home amongst your lot , the whitest sport on the planet

ya know
amongst the banana chuckers
the .. at least one white parent insisters

baselinepanther wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 5:55 pm

NlolRL wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:04 am

Seems you're either colour blind or a racist

racist ?
well I'd be right at home amongst your lot , the whitest sport on the planet

ya know
amongst the banana chuckers
the .. at least one white parent insisters