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[WookieReturns]

Yes, there seems to be a lot of articles outlining this as the issue - wanting the WA government to pay a fee. The premier has already stated he is happy to chip in rte: stadium upgrades and some money to grassroots - but a fee he has baulked at.

He offered to match dollar for dollar the money put in by NRLWA (the NRL). that seems to have been one of the main sticking points. The NRL want a similar deal to what the AFL got in Tasmania, without putting any of the money in that the AFL are.

[Fred]

Yes, there seems to be a lot of articles outlining this as the issue - wanting the WA government to pay a fee. The premier has already stated he is happy to chip in rte: stadium upgrades and some money to grassroots - but a fee he has baulked at.

He offered to match dollar for dollar the money put in by NRLWA (the NRL). that seems to have been one of the main sticking points. The NRL want a similar deal to what the AFL got in Tasmania, without putting any of the money in that the AFL are.

Big difference is that AFL/Aussie Rules is the dominant code - only code really, that Tassie has. Same could be said for WA who are more parochial about their footy than Victorians I would say - although insecure enough to jump on board a winning team no doubt. Rating in WA for NRL matches are traditionally very low - like extremely low - which the WA premier I think pointed out - so in Tassie - there is no need to "grow" the game so to speak - as it is "the game" whereas Rugby League is extremely minute - and there is a massive need to grow that game there. I

[leeroy*NRL*]

IN fact the AFL get $15mill per season from the Government in to Grassroots

No they dont. The AFL received nothing from the state government.

The WAFC recieved 13.2m last year as part of their deal to leave Subiaco and move to Optus Stadium (this is guaranteed through 2028). Subiaco was on a peppercorn lease with the buildings owned by the WAFC.

I read that the NRL wanted to go close to matching what the Government spends on School / grassroots in WA for AFL
for funding purposes.. (it does not go to the AFL, it goes into programs in schools etc...

this is what the NRL is after. (School curriculum) 24 Schools

I find it super hard not to believe the AFL does not get funded AFL programs through schools invested.

[Fred]

Why would a government spend any money on a sport that no one basically plays - has virtually no footprint etc. Be like asking them to pump money into Archery lol. It just does not value add to what already is there.

As the Premier stated, the NRL needs WA more than WA needs the NRL - which I think is a fair statement. The NRL could argue that it may increase tourism (I am sure it will in the very short-term) - maybe the gather round in WA would be a sweetener? Say a 10 year deal to get it there - otherwise what is in it for the WA government to pump money into a minor sport in that state?

[leeroy*NRL*]

Why would a government spend any money on a sport that no one basically plays - has virtually no footprint etc. Be like asking them to pump money into Archery lol. It just does not value add to what already is there.

As the Premier stated, the NRL needs WA more than WA needs the NRL - which I think is a fair statement. The NRL could argue that it may increase tourism (I am sure it will in the very short-term) - maybe the gather round in WA would be a sweetener? Say a 10 year deal to get it there - otherwise what is in it for the WA government to pump money into a minor sport in that state?

WA has more Grassroots than Melbourne ?? Playing numbers without a team.

VIctoria have invested in programs and even built a Centre of Excellence..

LOL Gather Round >> MAGIC ROUND FREDDY>>>
PVL i assume has already offered ORIGIN which generated good amounts for Perth.

(why did GWS get a new training base and stadium upgrade when being completely new ???
and still has no fans.

[Fred]

I’m not against support re playing ground etc but why would WA gov want to invest in growing grassroots of a virtually non existent sport in that state? The nrl want/need a team there - not sure why gov should pay license fee for the club.

[leeroy*NRL*]

I’m not against support re playing ground etc but why would WA gov want to invest in growing grassroots of a virtually non existent sport in that state? The nrl want/need a team there - not sure why gov should pay license fee for the club.

WA will not be paying for a license Fee.

WA will invest in School curriculum like i stated. (why cause its sport) its What schools do..
and currently in Perth They have a very low school program
NRL want to change this.

NSW AND QLD invest in AFL.. and they invest in alot of other sports too.
WA is behind the ball in investment in other sports..

the WORLD does not revolve around (we only invest in Cricket and AFL)

Upgrading stadium benefits every other sport.

[Fred]

Yes - the ntl wants them to but the wa gov have said they will not. That appears to be the sticking point.
Okay with the rest / you have to remember in WA it does revolve around cricket and AFL. But okay with all the rest you said.

[azif]

I’m not against support re playing ground etc but why would WA gov want to invest in growing grassroots of a virtually non existent sport in that state? The nrl want/need a team there - not sure why gov should pay license fee for the club.

so you've been told 10 times now the NRL has not asked for a license fee , & it still hasn't sunk in

the only thing they have asked for is 12 mill PA for 10 years to set up the sports grass roots system & thats more then reasonable , it gets young West Australians off their arses playing sport , can't be a bad thing.

The 320 million to re do HBF park helps 3 sports & is worth the investment too
this NRL side will bring 40K minimum visitors over to Perth from the east to watch 11 Bears home games each year & most will make a holiday out of it as well.
Everyone wins.

[Fred]

The premier was fairly clear on his commenrs9 thought that he would not be paying the licensing fee and ongoing fees to the NRL. I think stadium upgrades and such are reasonable from the government too Leroy.

[azif]

The premier was fairly clear on his commenrs9 thought that he would not be paying the licensing fee and ongoing fees to the NRL. I think stadium upgrades and such are reasonable from the government too Leroy.

clear like the QLD premier was about no new stadiums for the Olympics prior to getting elected .. that clear ?

only fools believe politicians
& i present to you , fumblers ...

[azif]

In June , when the re elected Cook sits down with PVL at the 2nd state of Origin at Optus oval with 60,000 other West Australians , to be lavishly wined & dined , they'll thrash out a very good deal ... a... very good deal.

[Beaussie]

Dylan Caporn: If the NRL wants WA for more than our money, they must work on their pitch
https://thewest.com.au/opinion/dylan-ca ... c-18380512

On Saturday, Roger Cook and Peter V’Landys were 3300km apart.

As the WA Premier was enjoying the hospitality at the NRL’s double header at Optus Stadium, V’Landys was at Randwick racecourse in Sydney — a result of his dual roles as Australian Rugby League Commission chairman and Racing NSW chief executive.

It makes V’Landys a busy man, between managing the expectations of racing lovers in Australia’s biggest city, while also turning his focus to upcoming broadcast negotiations for the next round of league TV rights.

The nation has long been divided on sporting grounds, with Australian Rules dominant in the southern States, while rugby league had the home ground advantage in NSW and Queensland.

Both have sought to conquer territory in recent years, with the league moving into Melbourne in the late 90s, and the AFL’s Gold Coast and western Sydney expansion in the 2000s.

And as Aussie Rules seeks to formally set up operations in Tasmania, it should come as no surprise the NRL wants coverage in the third of the country it has no team or little interest from fans and viewers.

Ratings for regular season NRL games rarely breaks into the top 20 in WA, and local participation **** children and adults sat at just 6000 last financial year — about the same number of West Aussies who play “flying disc”.

Sliding attendance rates at NRL double headers — which drew 31,000 to the 60,000 seat Optus Stadium on Saturday — show the appetite for league is not consistent or reliable.

When WA seems so detached from NRL, it is little wonder Cook is eager to play down talks with V’Landys.

Cook admitted there was a “delta” between the State Government and the league over the deal, but then refused to go into further detail over how far apart the parties were.

The Premier’s office revealed details of the offer — to which there has still been no formal, written response — including $35 million for growing the sport, and a place for a centre of excellence in Malaga.

But finding out the progress and developments of the negotiations has relied upon what gets leaked to Sydney media outlets. Nothing has been directed to outlets which have a presence in WA.

Peter V’Landys needs to get on a plane to WA and actually make his pitch to West Australians, or risk setting the Bears up for failure.
Week after week, cryptic messages from “NRL insiders” and demands for big sums of cash — as high as $320 million, including an insulting $120 million 10-year licence fee — are revealed to journalists in Sydney.

They tell the story of an overzealous league, attempting to strong-arm the cash-flush WA State Government.

Leaks during the election caused one of the few headaches for Cook during his campaign, forcing him to rule out sending any taxpayer funds to the league.

Attempts to contact the NRL, and to speak with V’Landys have gone unanswered, with only a commitment from staff in Sydney to run it past the higher-ups.

Also on the table is a rumoured request to redevelop HBF Park in Perth — at a cost of $200 million — despite recent upgrades for the FIFA Women’s World Cup and the regular hosting of the Western Force and Perth Glory home games.

It’s a typical Sydney power move adopted by V’Landys — barge in with the expectations of a fan base “starved” of sporting entertainment without trying to bring the community with them.

In all this time, the NRL and V’Landys have failed to travel to WA to make its pitch in the past nine months.

Where has the local engagement with fans and potential supporters been? Where are the attempts to demonstrate an understanding of what matters to West Aussies?

After the Federal Government tipped in a $600 million package to fund a Papua New Guinean side into the league, V’Landys has a taste for expensive taxpayer-funded deals.

Rumours of a deal, including one where Anthony Albanese swoops in to save the day in the final weeks of the campaign, have run hot in recent days, despite the on-again, off-again nature of the talks.

The scrapping of the Western Bears group, lead by Cash Converters’ Peter Cumins, looked to be the move of a league and a boss fixated on stable, political funding.

Why risk partnering with a consortium which is liable to falter to both market pressures and personality? A State-backed deal is neater and could prove longer lasting.

Internally, State Government figures were baffled by the decision to pursue taxpayers for a deal, given how niche the sport is in WA. Earlier this month, Cook said V’Landys did not get WA, and the league needed to treat the State with more respect, accusing the competition of only seeing the surplus State Government as a “cash cow”.

V’Landys’ power is not coast-to-coast — he needs to get on a plane to WA and actually make his pitch to West Australians, or risk setting the Bears up for failure.

[Fred]

I liked the niche comment - participation equivalent to flying disc lol - funny but poignant.

[azif]

Dylan Caporn: If the NRL wants WA for more than our money, they must work on their pitch
https://thewest.com.au/opinion/dylan-ca ... c-18380512

On Saturday, Roger Cook and Peter V’Landys were 3300km apart.

As the WA Premier was enjoying the hospitality at the NRL’s double header at Optus Stadium, V’Landys was at Randwick racecourse in Sydney — a result of his dual roles as Australian Rugby League Commission chairman and Racing NSW chief executive.

It makes V’Landys a busy man, between managing the expectations of racing lovers in Australia’s biggest city, while also turning his focus to upcoming broadcast negotiations for the next round of league TV rights.

The nation has long been divided on sporting grounds, with Australian Rules dominant in the southern States, while rugby league had the home ground advantage in NSW and Queensland.

Both have sought to conquer territory in recent years, with the league moving into Melbourne in the late 90s, and the AFL’s Gold Coast and western Sydney expansion in the 2000s.

And as Aussie Rules seeks to formally set up operations in Tasmania, it should come as no surprise the NRL wants coverage in the third of the country it has no team or little interest from fans and viewers.

Ratings for regular season NRL games rarely breaks into the top 20 in WA, and local participation **** children and adults sat at just 6000 last financial year — about the same number of West Aussies who play “flying disc”.

Sliding attendance rates at NRL double headers — which drew 31,000 to the 60,000 seat Optus Stadium on Saturday — show the appetite for league is not consistent or reliable.

When WA seems so detached from NRL, it is little wonder Cook is eager to play down talks with V’Landys.

Cook admitted there was a “delta” between the State Government and the league over the deal, but then refused to go into further detail over how far apart the parties were.

The Premier’s office revealed details of the offer — to which there has still been no formal, written response — including $35 million for growing the sport, and a place for a centre of excellence in Malaga.

But finding out the progress and developments of the negotiations has relied upon what gets leaked to Sydney media outlets. Nothing has been directed to outlets which have a presence in WA.

Peter V’Landys needs to get on a plane to WA and actually make his pitch to West Australians, or risk setting the Bears up for failure.
Week after week, cryptic messages from “NRL insiders” and demands for big sums of cash — as high as $320 million, including an insulting $120 million 10-year licence fee — are revealed to journalists in Sydney.

They tell the story of an overzealous league, attempting to strong-arm the cash-flush WA State Government.

Leaks during the election caused one of the few headaches for Cook during his campaign, forcing him to rule out sending any taxpayer funds to the league.

Attempts to contact the NRL, and to speak with V’Landys have gone unanswered, with only a commitment from staff in Sydney to run it past the higher-ups.

Also on the table is a rumoured request to redevelop HBF Park in Perth — at a cost of $200 million — despite recent upgrades for the FIFA Women’s World Cup and the regular hosting of the Western Force and Perth Glory home games.

It’s a typical Sydney power move adopted by V’Landys — barge in with the expectations of a fan base “starved” of sporting entertainment without trying to bring the community with them.

In all this time, the NRL and V’Landys have failed to travel to WA to make its pitch in the past nine months.

Where has the local engagement with fans and potential supporters been? Where are the attempts to demonstrate an understanding of what matters to West Aussies?

After the Federal Government tipped in a $600 million package to fund a Papua New Guinean side into the league, V’Landys has a taste for expensive taxpayer-funded deals.

Rumours of a deal, including one where Anthony Albanese swoops in to save the day in the final weeks of the campaign, have run hot in recent days, despite the on-again, off-again nature of the talks.

The scrapping of the Western Bears group, lead by Cash Converters’ Peter Cumins, looked to be the move of a league and a boss fixated on stable, political funding.

Why risk partnering with a consortium which is liable to falter to both market pressures and personality? A State-backed deal is neater and could prove longer lasting.

Internally, State Government figures were baffled by the decision to pursue taxpayers for a deal, given how niche the sport is in WA. Earlier this month, Cook said V’Landys did not get WA, and the league needed to treat the State with more respect, accusing the competition of only seeing the surplus State Government as a “cash cow”.

V’Landys’ power is not coast-to-coast — he needs to get on a plane to WA and actually make his pitch to West Australians, or risk setting the Bears up for failure.

another
fumble ***** article from a derpball jurno

they're shitting their pants
we're coming you skinny white singlet wearing noodle armed wankers , & you're paying