Swines Chairmen " VFL Falling apart"

[Drac]

Yes i tend to agree pete. I personally think western bulldogs, gold coast, north melbourne and stkilda should be given the flick and a darwin and tasmanian team put in. Then those who flaunt the game as Australia's national game might actually be onto something. 'till then its the southern football league.

Because the Saints, North, Bulldogs and Suns have no supporter base

[Raiderdave]

I think that there are 2 too many teams in the comp. Western Bulldogs & NM should not be in the comp as they do not have enough supporters & not enough money.

in favour of your paddle pop wions that

make less money ( they've lost 10 million in the last 3 years ....& probably will lose even more this year )
have less members & less supporters ?

yeah ... that makes sense .............

[Stewie]

I think that there are 2 too many teams in the comp. Western Bulldogs & NM should not be in the comp as they do not have enough supporters & not enough money.

in favour of your paddle pop wions that

make less money ( they've lost 10 million in the last 3 years ....& probably will lose even more this year )
have less members & less supporters ?

yeah ... that makes sense .............

Brisbane is a bandwagoner sporting city Raiderdave. You only need to go back a few years to when they last played finals football to see the sort of crowds that they were getting. The nRL won't allow the Broncos not to make the top 8 because they know that their supporters will fall off in droves.

[Drac]

in favour of your paddle pop wions that

make less money ( they've lost 10 million in the last 3 years ....& probably will lose even more this year )
have less members & less supporters ?

yeah ... that makes sense .............

[Raiderdave]

in favour of your paddle pop wions that

make less money ( they've lost 10 million in the last 3 years ....& probably will lose even more this year )
have less members & less supporters ?

yeah ... that makes sense .............

ah .... you & the point
in different post codes as per usual

the wions can't afford to play in the VFL without assistance
they're going further into the red by about 3 Million a year .. their attendances are down .. memberships are down ... TV audiences are down
& yr best bud Pete wants clubs in Melb doing no worse .. probably better.. to be cut in favour of this pack of singlet wearing *********

& you posts a list of NRL attendances
yeah ... way to
well I dunno what that means in context of the above

[Stewie]

in favour of your paddle pop wions that

make less money ( they've lost 10 million in the last 3 years ....& probably will lose even more this year )
have less members & less supporters ?

yeah ... that makes sense .............

Wow, that's actually pretty embarrassing for the nRL. Weren't South Sydney in the prelim this year? The Lions missed out on the finals again and still average a higher crowd than them! nRL must just be that boring to watch

[King-Eliagh]

Yes i tend to agree pete. I personally think western bulldogs, gold coast, north melbourne and stkilda should be given the flick and a darwin and tasmanian team put in. Then those who flaunt the game as Australia's national game might actually be onto something. 'till then its the southern football league.

Because the Saints, North, Bulldogs and Suns have no supporter base

Ahhh that's not the point there drac. Think a lil deeper please.

[Raiderdave]

I think that there are 2 too many teams in the comp. Western Bulldogs & NM should not be in the comp as they do not have enough supporters & not enough money.

in favour of your paddle pop wions that

make less money ( they've lost 10 million in the last 3 years ....& probably will lose even more this year )
have less members & less supporters ?

yeah ... that makes sense .............

Brisbane is a bandwagoner sporting city Raiderdave. You only need to go back a few years to when they last played finals football to see the sort of crowds that they were getting. The nRL won't allow the Broncos not to make the top 8 because they know that their supporters will fall off in droves.

bandwagoner city
the Broncos failed to make the finals in 2010 for the first time in 20 years ... yet they increased their crowds

wow .. do you know anything .. about anything

they like the swines & vicky kicky in general ..in the nthn states is all but finished for support other then ex pat sthn ****
they could win a contrived title like the swines did this year .. & still not stop their support from falling .. like the swines did this year
of course they won't win anything .. anytime soon
its bye bye wions

[Pete_09]

The Lions are never going to be taken out of the comp. For AFL in Brisbane to survive the Lions need to be in the AFL.

I just feel that there are too many teams in Melbourne & WB & NM are the least supported so maybe they should be relocated or taken out of the comp.

When the Lions start winning again they will get heaps more to there games just like they did in 02, 03, 04 & to a lessor extent 05.

[Raiderdave]

in favour of your paddle pop wions that

make less money ( they've lost 10 million in the last 3 years ....& probably will lose even more this year )
have less members & less supporters ?

yeah ... that makes sense .............

Wow, that's actually pretty embarrassing for the nRL. Weren't South Sydney in the prelim this year? The Lions missed out on the finals again and still average a higher crowd than them! nRL must just be that boring to watch

yet I read where Souths are on track for a 1 Million dollar profit in 2012
while the wions will be lucky to avoid another 3 million dollar plus loss ..... yep thats embarrasing alright

[Raiderdave]

The Lions are never going to be taken out of the comp. For AFL in Brisbane to survive the Lions need to be in the AFL.

I just feel that there are too many teams in Melbourne & WB & NM are the least supported so maybe they should be relocated or taken out of the comp.

When the Lions start winning again they will get heaps more to there games just like they did in 02, 03, 04 & to a lessor extent 05.

yep .. contrived .. rigged.. manipulated
after 30 years its still .. the only way the VFL can keep sides in NSW & QLD going ....

a national sport

sure it is

[Drac]

ah .... you & the point
in different post codes as per usual

the wions can't afford to play in the VFL without assistance
they're going further into the red by about 3 Million a year .. their attendances are down .. memberships are down ... TV audiences are down
& yr best bud Pete wants clubs in Melb doing no worse .. probably better.. to be cut in favour of this pack of singlet wearing *********

& you posts a list of NRL attendances
yeah ... way to
well I dunno what that means in context of the above

My point was valid. You derided the Lions' membership and supporter numbers. I pointed out that while their numbers are certainly down, they still have more active support than most of the NSWRL.

[Drac]

Yes i tend to agree pete. I personally think western bulldogs, gold coast, north melbourne and stkilda should be given the flick and a darwin and tasmanian team put in. Then those who flaunt the game as Australia's national game might actually be onto something. 'till then its the southern football league.

Because the Saints, North, Bulldogs and Suns have no supporter base

Ahhh that's not the point there drac. Think a lil deeper please.

It's exactly the point. Why would the AFL kill off/relocate teams that have more active support than much of the nRL? Saints and North both have more active supporters than the biggest team in Sydney, Canterbury. Would you advocate moving Canterbury to Darwin?

[Pete_09]

Collingwoods crowd average is the bottom 6 NRL clubs average combined.

I hate Collingwood but that is impressive. Or is it just embarrassing for the NRL

[Drac]

bandwagoner city
the Broncos failed to make the finals in 2010 for the first time in 20 years ... yet they increased their crowds

wow .. do you know anything .. about anything

Brisbane sport followers bandwagon jump when teams are flying well. Look at the crowds at Reds and Roar games recently.

When the Lions had their success on field, they had a higher average attendance than the Broncos 6 years in a row (2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005). You either have to admit that bandwagon support jumped on the Lions during their successful period, or that for 6 years, Australian Football was more popular than Rugby League in Brisbane.

Personally, I choose to believe that the Brisbane sporting public jumps on a winner, and jumps off when the winning stops.