Talking Footy

Bump. My point on the afls leniency with Benny cousins still stands six years on after the poor bastard's did time in jail.

I never brought it up in this thread but no doubt the AFL fans knew he had shaved his head and waxed his body before a hair sample drug test which the AFL 'passed'

Do you seriously believe the AFL is the only sport which has an issue with illicit drugs??

Oh dear .
Just to explain it once again .
Drugs ...racism ...bad crowd behaviour
Bad player behaviour ....are in all sports ..no one is claiming any different .
It's how the Governing bodies DEAL with the problems is the issue .

& when the Governing body of one sport here in AUST continually get on their soapbox & preach how they are the leaders in fighting these problems ...they set themselves up for a fall . Especially when they seem to be more interested in lip service ..& protecting the Brand than actually addressing the problem .

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:56 am

Oh dear .
Just to explain it once again .
Drugs ...racism ...bad crowd behaviour
Bad player behaviour ....are in all sports ..no one is claiming any different .
It's how the Governing bodies DEAL with the problems is the issue .

& when the Governing body of one sport here in AUST continually get on their soapbox & preach how they are the leaders in fighting these problems ...they set themselves up for a fall . Especially when they seem to be more interested in lip service ..& protecting the Brand than actually addressing the problem .

that isnt the argument though. This thread is about which other sport would have helped or hindered a Ben Cousins type problem. Illicit drug culture is strong in every sport, and every walk of life. At least the AFL dont turn a blind eye like most WADA sports. Nor do they leave testing up to the clubs like the NRL, which is a pretend policy at best.

So the answer to the OP is pretty much every sport

I answered your question .
You asked it
You didn't like the answer .now you say it's not the argument .
Well don't ask the question .

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:37 am

I answered your question .
You asked it
You didn't like the answer .now you say it's not the argument .
Well don't ask the question .

you, did. By saying every sport has issues with illicit drugs. The rest of your answer had nothing to do with the thread

NlolRL wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:44 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:37 am

I answered your question .
You asked it
You didn't like the answer .now you say it's not the argument .
Well don't ask the question .

you, did. By saying every sport has issues with illicit drugs. The rest of your answer had nothing to do with the thread

It has everything to do with your question .

NlolRL wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:42 am

Do you seriously believe the AFL is the only sport which has an issue with illicit drugs??

Ah, can you read? If so please, be a lad and show me where I wrote that?

Seriously, the level of comprehension fail amongst AFL fans seems way too high.

Grow some nuts and address the thread topic or kindly pisssooorrrrff nlol.

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:01 pm

NlolRL wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:44 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:37 am

I answered your question .
You asked it
You didn't like the answer .now you say it's not the argument .
Well don't ask the question .

you, did. By saying every sport has issues with illicit drugs. The rest of your answer had nothing to do with the thread

It has everything to do with your question .

Wrong

King-Eliagh wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:46 am

NlolRL wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:42 am

Do you seriously believe the AFL is the only sport which has an issue with illicit drugs??

Ah, can you read? If so please, be a lad and show me where I wrote that?

Seriously, the level of comprehension fail amongst AFL fans seems way too high.

Grow some nuts and address the thread topic or kindly pisssooorrrrff nlol.

Ive adressed it in other posts

Nup, you've just come in like a blabbering blubbering two year old saying rubbish like "yeah but the NRL is no good ya know"

You can't even explain yerself or refer to the thread at hand. Common now nlol! Do...pickup yer game

NlolRL wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:25 am

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:56 am

Oh dear .
Just to explain it once again .
Drugs ...racism ...bad crowd behaviour
Bad player behaviour ....are in all sports ..no one is claiming any different .
It's how the Governing bodies DEAL with the problems is the issue .

& when the Governing body of one sport here in AUST continually get on their soapbox & preach how they are the leaders in fighting these problems ...they set themselves up for a fall . Especially when they seem to be more interested in lip service ..& protecting the Brand than actually addressing the problem .

that isnt the argument though. This thread is about which other sport would have helped or hindered a Ben Cousins type problem. Illicit drug culture is strong in every sport, and every walk of life. At least the AFL dont turn a blind eye like most WADA sports. Nor do they leave testing up to the clubs like the NRL, which is a pretend policy at best.

So the answer to the OP is pretty much every sport

Any other sport would never have put up with a ben Cousins type for this long - for anywhere near this long. The AFL with there sweep, sweep - look the other way, 3 strikes policy have already made themselves a laughing stock in this area. There no telling what else he's gotten away with over the years

pussycat wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:35 pm

NlolRL wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:25 am

AFLcrap1 wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:56 am

Oh dear .
Just to explain it once again .
Drugs ...racism ...bad crowd behaviour
Bad player behaviour ....are in all sports ..no one is claiming any different .
It's how the Governing bodies DEAL with the problems is the issue .

& when the Governing body of one sport here in AUST continually get on their soapbox & preach how they are the leaders in fighting these problems ...they set themselves up for a fall . Especially when they seem to be more interested in lip service ..& protecting the Brand than actually addressing the problem .

that isnt the argument though. This thread is about which other sport would have helped or hindered a Ben Cousins type problem. Illicit drug culture is strong in every sport, and every walk of life. At least the AFL dont turn a blind eye like most WADA sports. Nor do they leave testing up to the clubs like the NRL, which is a pretend policy at best.

So the answer to the OP is pretty much every sport

Any other sport would never have put up with a ben Cousins type for this long - for anywhere near this long. The AFL with there sweep, sweep - look the other way, 3 strikes policy have already made themselves a laughing stock in this area. There no telling what else he's gotten away with over the years

you literally have no idea what you are talking about. Most world sports follow the WADA code where illicit drug use is only banned if you test positive on game day. Other than that you can use til your heart's content. The AFL was one of the first sports to introduce an illicit drugs policy in addition to the WADA code. They made it a 3 strike policy based on expert advice and the fact the testing was in players off season, another first. The NRL followed with a 'look at me' 2 strike policy yet allowed clubs to do their own testing In fact one club was shown to be neglecting this responsibility. Furthermore, the NRL dont even release their results for scrutiny. There could be many many drug users in the NRL, but how the hell would anyone know?

The AFL failed in their duty of care for Ben cousins. Consequences should have been far tougher early on. But, like jimmy golden boy hird, Benny was once oh so marketable so the AFL dragged the chain, SqUeezed Bennys life out of him by applyiNg the afls famous wet lettuce leaf punishment until Benny was just a skeleton of his former self.

Consequences for young men are very important. The AFL didn't properly acknowledge this. And they should've. I can't think of any other sport which could have applied the wet lettuce leaf for so so long... But please, enligHten me if you think there is one and provide an example

Otherwise kindly take it on the chin and/or pissorrrf out of my appropriate, insightful, and highly credible thread

Good day sirs.

Lol

He will ignore your request for an example,from another sport .
Because there isn't one .

But he will ramble on & on to try to take the focus off another AFL failure