National Minnow League Vs the AFL

[Xman]

. There's absolutely nothing wrong with debt, as long as it can be managed.

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if it could be managed as easily as you claim ...do you think banks would have insisted the VFL guarantee these loans ?
again
really
NFI where finances are concerned :_<> :_<> :_<>

Prove your claim about NRL clubs

well known fact dickhead.... wound back to zero on the balance sheet every year for NRL cubs if they finish in the red by their powerful leagues clubs

Can you provide something a bit more substantial than "well known fact"? Otherwise its ruuuubbish

The AFL made around 200m more than the NmL I'm sure theyl be able to cope with a few clubs who need assistance with debt. They certainly don't need to assist the likes of Hawthorn, Collingwood, Essendon, Eagles, Carlton etc

[adamj1300]

the figures from the NRL and AFL anual reports!
further goes to show the NRL is only a minnow league in comparison!
2013 AFL Revenue - 502 million
2013 NRL Revenue - 314 million

2013 AFL Broadcast and AFL Media revenue - 234.8 million
2013 NRL Broadcast and Digital Revenue - 228 million

2013 AFL Non broadcast revenue streams - 268.3 million
2013 NRL non broadcast revenue streams - 90 million

2013 AFL payments to clubs - 209.15 million
2013 NRL payments to clubs - 129.6 million
out of the AFL and NRL annual reports

NRL income
Funding from National Rugby League Partnership (NRLP) - 4,890,034
Game receipts 36,442,250 30,260,954
Sponsorship 25,726,950 19,078,936
Government incentives 9,781,011 8,036,452
Other income 21,018,352 19,090,139


sponsorship revenue raised for the top AFL clubs
Richmond - 19.3 million
Collingwood - 19.65 million (includes merch.) up from 19.1 million
Geelong - 17.04 million, up from 15.69 million
Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2 ... n.1037934/, all AFL clubs individual annual reports links can be found
richmond and collingwood each can raise nearly 20 million while the whole NRL commission can only raise 25 million in sponsorship

the NRL is still that far behind the AFL

Says it all. =D>

it says nothing
which is about as much as Adamliar ever says

VFL
115 Million in combined club debt
having to go guarantor to the tune of 34 Million in bank loans just so some clubs can get on the field in 2014
how embarrassing .... how farcical

NRL
banks 50.6 Million in profits
& not one club with its hand out
now that

says it all

failure Dave strikes again!
only 2 clubs are financially the Broncos & Cowboys.the other 14 run in debt struggling to raise the pissy 12 to 14 million needed to run a NRL club. they do this by raiding their shitty leagues clubs, then after still being short need to beg the commission for money.
to put in to perspective the poorest AFL club stkilda, still managed to raise 29.9 million in revenue but still ran at a loss
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2swhv.html

the NRL clubs do not publish their Anual reports, as most likely they are to embarrassing to publish, if you can please provide some please do, but as i expect it will be like every other time you are asked to prove some evidence, you will fail!

The Raiders football team has generated around $12-$13 million of revenue in recent years, making it one of the poorest-performing in the competition. This effectively means the football club is uneconomic and demands several million dollars from the leagues club and property trust for support each year.


now go ask your mum to up your meds

[Raiderdave]

. There's absolutely nothing wrong with debt, as long as it can be managed.

:_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
if it could be managed as easily as you claim ...do you think banks would have insisted the VFL guarantee these loans ?
again
really
NFI where finances are concerned :_<> :_<> :_<>

Prove your claim about NRL clubs

well known fact dickhead.... wound back to zero on the balance sheet every year for NRL cubs if they finish in the red by their powerful leagues clubs

The AFL made around 200m more than the NmL :

& banked 45 million less :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

[Raiderdave]

the figures from the NRL and AFL anual reports!
further goes to show the NRL is only a minnow league in comparison!
2013 AFL Revenue - 502 million
2013 NRL Revenue - 314 million

2013 AFL Broadcast and AFL Media revenue - 234.8 million
2013 NRL Broadcast and Digital Revenue - 228 million

2013 AFL Non broadcast revenue streams - 268.3 million
2013 NRL non broadcast revenue streams - 90 million

2013 AFL payments to clubs - 209.15 million
2013 NRL payments to clubs - 129.6 million
out of the AFL and NRL annual reports

NRL income
Funding from National Rugby League Partnership (NRLP) - 4,890,034
Game receipts 36,442,250 30,260,954
Sponsorship 25,726,950 19,078,936
Government incentives 9,781,011 8,036,452
Other income 21,018,352 19,090,139


sponsorship revenue raised for the top AFL clubs
Richmond - 19.3 million
Collingwood - 19.65 million (includes merch.) up from 19.1 million
Geelong - 17.04 million, up from 15.69 million
Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2 ... n.1037934/, all AFL clubs individual annual reports links can be found
richmond and collingwood each can raise nearly 20 million while the whole NRL commission can only raise 25 million in sponsorship

the NRL is still that far behind the AFL

Says it all. =D>

it says nothing
which is about as much as Adamliar ever says

VFL
115 Million in combined club debt
having to go guarantor to the tune of 34 Million in bank loans just so some clubs can get on the field in 2014
how embarrassing .... how farcical

NRL
banks 50.6 Million in profits
& not one club with its hand out
now that

says it all

failure Dave strikes again!
only 2 clubs are financially the Broncos & Cowboys.the other 14 run in debt struggling to raise the pissy 12 to 14 million needed to run a NRL club. they do this by raiding their shitty leagues clubs, then after still being short need to beg the commission for money.
to put in to perspective the poorest AFL club stkilda, still managed to raise 29.9 million in revenue but still ran at a loss
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2swhv.html

the NRL clubs do not publish their Anual reports, as most likely they are to embarrassing to publish, if you can please provide some please do, but as i expect it will be like every other time you are asked to prove some evidence, you will fail!

The Raiders football team has generated around $12-$13 million of revenue in recent years, making it one of the poorest-performing in the competition. This effectively means the football club is uneconomic and demands several million dollars from the leagues club and property trust for support each year.


now go ask your mum to up your meds

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spell actually you illiterate gibberer


oh hang on
too many letters


try
pokie then





no ?

:_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

now the real story
not captain fails lies


NRL clubs are almost all debt free
they carry over no debt year to year
meanwhile VFL clubs are drowning in debt .... struggling to survive with bills out stripping their revenue
oh dear

oh &...............

the Canberra Raiders PTY LTD
turned over 70 Million plus in revenue in 2013
profits in the order of 3 million plus

well Done Raiders
well done =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

[Xman]

Care to show us evidence that NmL clubs are debt free from year to year?

[Swans4ever]

. There's absolutely nothing wrong with debt, as long as it can be managed.

:_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
if it could be managed as easily as you claim ...do you think banks would have insisted the VFL guarantee these loans ?
again
really
NFI where finances are concerned :_<> :_<> :_<>

Prove your claim about NRL clubs

well known fact dickhead.... wound back to zero on the balance sheet every year for NRL cubs if they finish in the red by their powerful leagues clubs

The AFL made around 200m more than the NmL :

& banked 45 million less :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Well they already have 89 mil in the bank I suppose they have spent that 45 mil on the 175000 participants in NSW eh Dave - pitty the NRL are more worried about telling everyone their making profits rather than investing in expanding their game! (I still don't know how he comes up with this figure as the AFL made 16.6 mil profit - which means only an extra 33.4 mil in profit - if we accept what he says) hahaha yeah expand in 3 yrs time when the AFL will be well and truly entrenched in NSW and QLD - talk about missing the boat!

[Raiderdave]

Care to show us evidence that NmL clubs are debt free from year to year?

hmmmmm

when TLPG provides .... evidence ... of all 24 Storm games being shown on FTA in Melbourne I will dickhead

[Raiderdave]

. There's absolutely nothing wrong with debt, as long as it can be managed.

:_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>
if it could be managed as easily as you claim ...do you think banks would have insisted the VFL guarantee these loans ?
again
really
NFI where finances are concerned :_<> :_<> :_<>

Prove your claim about NRL clubs

well known fact dickhead.... wound back to zero on the balance sheet every year for NRL cubs if they finish in the red by their powerful leagues clubs

The AFL made around 200m more than the NmL :

& banked 45 million less :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

Well they already have 89 mil in the bank !

so We'll have more in 2 years then dickhead

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thanks for the tip

[Xman]

Care to show us evidence that NmL clubs are debt free from year to year?

hmmmmm

when TLPG provides .... evidence ... of all 24 Storm games being shown on FTA in Melbourne I will dickhead

So youve got no evidence. I look forward to April when the vast majority of your baseless posts are deleted.

[Raiderdave]

Care to show us evidence that NmL clubs are debt free from year to year?

hmmmmm

when TLPG provides .... evidence ... of all 24 Storm games being shown on FTA in Melbourne I will dickhead

So youve got no evidence. I look forward to April when the vast majority of your baseless posts are deleted.

of course I do

when TLPG provides his
funny >

you weren't so insistent on that piss flap providing evidence for that claim of his , or about 30 others he & the other deranged fumblers in here have made
Odd I'd of thought

[Xman]

Care to show us evidence that NmL clubs are debt free from year to year?

hmmmmm

when TLPG provides .... evidence ... of all 24 Storm games being shown on FTA in Melbourne I will dickhead

So youve got no evidence. I look forward to April when the vast majority of your baseless posts are deleted.

of course I do

when TLPG provides his
funny >

you weren't so insistent on that piss flap providing evidence for that claim of his , or about 30 others he & the other deranged fumblers in here have made
Odd I'd of thought

Why are you complaining. Youre worse when it comes to providing evidence. This thread being the latest example

[Raiderdave]

Care to show us evidence that NmL clubs are debt free from year to year?

hmmmmm

when TLPG provides .... evidence ... of all 24 Storm games being shown on FTA in Melbourne I will dickhead

So youve got no evidence. I look forward to April when the vast majority of your baseless posts are deleted.

of course I do

when TLPG provides his
funny >

you weren't so insistent on that piss flap providing evidence for that claim of his , or about 30 others he & the other deranged fumblers in here have made
Odd I'd of thought

Why are you complaining. Youre worse when it comes to providing evidence. This thread being the latest example

complaining
no just pointing out again .... your obvious bias & another example in a long list of why its time you probably moved on & handed over the reigns to a more ..... moderate ..... moderator

[Swans4ever]

the figures from the NRL and AFL anual reports!
further goes to show the NRL is only a minnow league in comparison!
2013 AFL Revenue - 502 million
2013 NRL Revenue - 314 million

2013 AFL Broadcast and AFL Media revenue - 234.8 million
2013 NRL Broadcast and Digital Revenue - 228 million

2013 AFL Non broadcast revenue streams - 268.3 million
2013 NRL non broadcast revenue streams - 90 million

2013 AFL payments to clubs - 209.15 million
2013 NRL payments to clubs - 129.6 million
out of the AFL and NRL annual reports

NRL income
Funding from National Rugby League Partnership (NRLP) - 4,890,034
Game receipts 36,442,250 30,260,954
Sponsorship 25,726,950 19,078,936
Government incentives 9,781,011 8,036,452
Other income 21,018,352 19,090,139


sponsorship revenue raised for the top AFL clubs
Richmond - 19.3 million
Collingwood - 19.65 million (includes merch.) up from 19.1 million
Geelong - 17.04 million, up from 15.69 million
Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2 ... n.1037934/, all AFL clubs individual annual reports links can be found
richmond and collingwood each can raise nearly 20 million while the whole NRL commission can only raise 25 million in sponsorship

the NRL is still that far behind the AFL

Says it all. =D>

it says nothing
which is about as much as Adamliar ever says

VFL
115 Million in combined club debt
having to go guarantor to the tune of 34 Million in bank loans just so some clubs can get on the field in 2014
how embarrassing .... how farcical

NRL
banks 50.6 Million in profits
& not one club with its hand out
now that

says it all

failure Dave strikes again!
only 2 clubs are financially the Broncos & Cowboys.the other 14 run in debt struggling to raise the pissy 12 to 14 million needed to run a NRL club. they do this by raiding their shitty leagues clubs, then after still being short need to beg the commission for money.
to put in to perspective the poorest AFL club stkilda, still managed to raise 29.9 million in revenue but still ran at a loss
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2swhv.html

the NRL clubs do not publish their Anual reports, as most likely they are to embarrassing to publish, if you can please provide some please do, but as i expect it will be like every other time you are asked to prove some evidence, you will fail!

The Raiders football team has generated around $12-$13 million of revenue in recent years, making it one of the poorest-performing in the competition. This effectively means the football club is uneconomic and demands several million dollars from the leagues club and property trust for support each year.


now go ask your mum to up your meds

:_<> :_<> :_<>
spell actually you illiterate gibberer


oh hang on
too many letters


try
pokie then





no ?

:_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

now the real story
not captain fails lies


NRL clubs are almost all debt free
they carry over no debt year to year
meanwhile VFL clubs are drowning in debt .... struggling to survive with bills out stripping their revenue
oh dear

oh &...............

the Canberra Raiders PTY LTD
turned over 70 Million plus in revenue in 2013
profits in the order of 3 million plus

well Done Raiders
well done =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

You are an absolute idiot - do you make up these numbers up yourself?
It puts the total revenue from this group at 26,111,315 (page 11)
Profit of only 366,151 (down from 564,555 in 2012)
Of which out of their total revenue,
758,275 was GIFTED to the RL Club (page 3)
http://www.raidersclub.com.au/site/file ... 199982.pdf

How can you act so superior yet be so stupid?

[Xman]

Care to show us evidence that NmL clubs are debt free from year to year?

hmmmmm

when TLPG provides .... evidence ... of all 24 Storm games being shown on FTA in Melbourne I will dickhead

So youve got no evidence. I look forward to April when the vast majority of your baseless posts are deleted.

of course I do

when TLPG provides his
funny >

you weren't so insistent on that piss flap providing evidence for that claim of his , or about 30 others he & the other deranged fumblers in here have made
Odd I'd of thought

Why are you complaining. Youre worse when it comes to providing evidence. This thread being the latest example

complaining
no just pointing out again .... your obvious bias & another example in a long list of why its time you probably moved on & handed over the reigns to a more ..... moderate ..... moderator

hilarious you getting defensive about providing proof. It wouldn't be an issue if you had some.

I'd already backed you up in the claim about the number of Storm games on FTA. Did you forget that?

[Raiderdave]

the figures from the NRL and AFL anual reports!
further goes to show the NRL is only a minnow league in comparison!
2013 AFL Revenue - 502 million
2013 NRL Revenue - 314 million

2013 AFL Broadcast and AFL Media revenue - 234.8 million
2013 NRL Broadcast and Digital Revenue - 228 million

2013 AFL Non broadcast revenue streams - 268.3 million
2013 NRL non broadcast revenue streams - 90 million

2013 AFL payments to clubs - 209.15 million
2013 NRL payments to clubs - 129.6 million
out of the AFL and NRL annual reports

NRL income
Funding from National Rugby League Partnership (NRLP) - 4,890,034
Game receipts 36,442,250 30,260,954
Sponsorship 25,726,950 19,078,936
Government incentives 9,781,011 8,036,452
Other income 21,018,352 19,090,139


sponsorship revenue raised for the top AFL clubs
Richmond - 19.3 million
Collingwood - 19.65 million (includes merch.) up from 19.1 million
Geelong - 17.04 million, up from 15.69 million
Essendon - 16.84 million, up from 15.92 million
Hawthorn - 15.22 million, up from 15.08 million
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2 ... n.1037934/, all AFL clubs individual annual reports links can be found
richmond and collingwood each can raise nearly 20 million while the whole NRL commission can only raise 25 million in sponsorship

the NRL is still that far behind the AFL

Says it all. =D>

it says nothing
which is about as much as Adamliar ever says

VFL
115 Million in combined club debt
having to go guarantor to the tune of 34 Million in bank loans just so some clubs can get on the field in 2014
how embarrassing .... how farcical

NRL
banks 50.6 Million in profits
& not one club with its hand out
now that

says it all

failure Dave strikes again!
only 2 clubs are financially the Broncos & Cowboys.the other 14 run in debt struggling to raise the pissy 12 to 14 million needed to run a NRL club. they do this by raiding their shitty leagues clubs, then after still being short need to beg the commission for money.
to put in to perspective the poorest AFL club stkilda, still managed to raise 29.9 million in revenue but still ran at a loss
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2swhv.html

the NRL clubs do not publish their Anual reports, as most likely they are to embarrassing to publish, if you can please provide some please do, but as i expect it will be like every other time you are asked to prove some evidence, you will fail!

The Raiders football team has generated around $12-$13 million of revenue in recent years, making it one of the poorest-performing in the competition. This effectively means the football club is uneconomic and demands several million dollars from the leagues club and property trust for support each year.


now go ask your mum to up your meds

:_<> :_<> :_<>
spell actually you illiterate gibberer


oh hang on
too many letters


try
pokie then





no ?

:_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

now the real story
not captain fails lies


NRL clubs are almost all debt free
they carry over no debt year to year
meanwhile VFL clubs are drowning in debt .... struggling to survive with bills out stripping their revenue
oh dear

oh &...............

the Canberra Raiders PTY LTD
turned over 70 Million plus in revenue in 2013
profits in the order of 3 million plus

well Done Raiders
well done =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

You are an absolute idiot - do you make up these numbers up yourself?
It puts the total revenue from this group at 26,111,315 (page 11)
Profit of only 366,151 (down from 564,555 in 2012)
Of which out of their total revenue,
758,275 was GIFTED to the RL Club (page 3)
http://www.raidersclub.com.au/site/file ... 199982.pdf

How can you act so superior yet be so stupid?

that's the Raiders sports club group you blithering twat :_<> :_<> :_<>
Gunners ,West Belco & Weston I believe

that's not even half of the Raiders licensed operations ... the Qybn Leagues would top that by itself
also its not including the Football dept revenues ...
& doesn't include revenues from their 6 property interests

when will you tire of being an ignorant know nothing cockhead ?
go piss on someone you weird tool