Don't you guys have anything better to do...

[cos789]

AFL is the number 1 code here but rl has a bigger international scene . And there's nothing wrong with that... Doesn't diminish AFL at all and AFL being the number code here on aus doesn't diminish rl at all.

You seem to be a reasonable guy willing to talk logically and that's good.
All the KPI's show AFL is number and mostly by a large margin except for ratings.
The international scene is more open to debate.
Yes, rl has a larger international scene mainly because it's semi-pro in England and in some places players have flipped from RU to rl. noticebly the Pacific, giving rl some profile. This is fact but the forgotton facts are that the situation is stagnating and arguably worse. NZ increasingly looks to rl, but the big England Vs Australia tests are long gone and English rl at professional level has lots of problems More worrying would be the demise of Frannce hardly compensated by the rise of Fiji.
Some people love to put the international profile of Australian Football down. Not so long ago it was virtually zero but now we have seen good growth and some exceptional growth. To say AR is played in more countries than rl is true but hardly gives the right impression. AR still has a long long way to go but I am extremely happy with the advancement of AR overseas not only in the participation rates, number of countries, professional level but also the iniformity of improvement.
if your compare the relative positions of the two codes then of course you would be happy that rl is still out there but you wouldn't be happy that it's stagnating.

[NRLCrap1]

Hey, Fyiar - this is The Fight Club! It's all about fighting! The code wars! So if you can't take being disparaged, then too fricking bad!

Phelpsy we have more international reach than rugby league. 69 v 50. We are winning the international war, and all the RL fans can do is nit pick.

I know it's the fight club you dropkick. I'm saying that why is it predominantly AFL people continually trying to undermine the RLWC? highlights your insecurities as we clearly dont give a shit, we're sitting back enjoying the games while you twiddle your thumbs for 2014. And before that we will also have the NRL 9s which looks awesome. 40k/50k tix sold several months in advance in ANOTHER country. something you could only dream about.

The RLWC is wide open for undermining, you goose! And I'm not twiddling my thumbs! I'm looking at the form guide for the draft on Thursday! And AFL has 9's as well BTW!! Selling out in another country doesn't happen with club games does it? You need rep footy to do it. We DON'T! Something that YOU could only dream about it!

Phelpsy, I judge O/S presence on numbers. AFL ticks more boxes even if we miss a few that RL ticks.

[adamj1300]

AFL is the number 1 code here but rl has a bigger international scene . And there's nothing wrong with that... Doesn't diminish AFL at all and AFL being the number code here on aus doesn't diminish rl at all.

You seem to be a reasonable guy willing to talk logically and that's good.
All the KPI's show AFL is number and mostly by a large margin except for ratings.
The international scene is more open to debate.
Yes, rl has a larger international scene mainly because it's semi-pro in England and in some places players have flipped from RU to rl. noticebly the Pacific, giving rl some profile. This is fact but the forgotton facts are that the situation is stagnating and arguably worse. NZ increasingly looks to rl, but the big England Vs Australia tests are long gone and English rl at professional level has lots of problems More worrying would be the demise of Frannce hardly compensated by the rise of Fiji.
Some people love to put the international profile of Australian Football down. Not so long ago it was virtually zero but now we have seen good growth and some exceptional growth. To say AR is played in more countries than rl is true but hardly gives the right impression. AR still has a long long way to go but I am extremely happy with the advancement of AR overseas not only in the participation rates, number of countries, professional level but also the iniformity of improvement.
if your compare the relative positions of the two codes then of course you would be happy that rl is still out there but you wouldn't be happy that it's stagnating.

one of the other problems that IAL often faces that is often over locked, is the size of the oval, most countries, if not every country has a rectangular field,because soccer is played on it. union, RL & Gridiron can be played on it

[pHyR3]

Hey, Fyiar - this is The Fight Club! It's all about fighting! The code wars! So if you can't take being disparaged, then too fricking bad!

Phelpsy we have more international reach than rugby league. 69 v 50. We are winning the international war, and all the RL fans can do is nit pick.

I know it's the fight club you dropkick. I'm saying that why is it predominantly AFL people continually trying to undermine the RLWC? highlights your insecurities as we clearly dont give a shit, we're sitting back enjoying the games while you twiddle your thumbs for 2014. And before that we will also have the NRL 9s which looks awesome. 40k/50k tix sold several months in advance in ANOTHER country. something you could only dream about.

The RLWC is wide open for undermining, you goose! And I'm not twiddling my thumbs! I'm looking at the form guide for the draft on Thursday! And AFL has 9's as well BTW!! Selling out in another country doesn't happen with club games does it? You need rep footy to do it. We DON'T! Something that YOU could only dream about it!

Phelpsy, I judge O/S presence on numbers. AFL ticks more boxes even if we miss a few that RL ticks.

if RLWC is open for undermining, wonder where that leaves international AFL lol. FIFA......RUWC.....RLWC .........50 miles of crap.....international AFL.

lol never heard of AFL 9s. but i'll google it up now. btw how many on a normal team out of interest?

hmm can't seem to find much on AFL 9s beside local tournaments... is this a professional event or not? > >

"selling out in another country doesn't happen with club games does it? You need rep footy to do it. We DON'T!"

where on earth have you sold out something with club AFL IN ANOTHER COUNTRY???

and by the way RL club has drawn massive crowds in other countries before. See 'Challenge Cup' in Europe. Average crowd for the final since 2007 surpasses EIGHTY THOUSAND.

Let me turn your stupid 69 (very dodgy) countries vs 50 to absolute shit.

Would you rather 10 countries play AFL (excl aus) with average crowds of 20k in every nation, and participation at 100k. OR 20 countries with averages of 2k and almost nonexistent. One or two countries might have participation at 5k.

If you pick the 2nd you are a legitimate ****** and i will not be debating this with you anymore as you clearly have an extra 21st chromosome and I prefer not to demean ******** children too much. (see i saved you a quick google of what an 'extra 21st chromosome' is! how nice am i)

[214Four]

Can't say I've disparaged it really. But youve got to say, it hasn't had great ratings or interest for a so called world event. Obviously better than the AFL could do though, I'll give you that.

I would have to disagree with you there...
Here is section of an article written in the UK,

Over Two million viewers watch England in RLWC2013 on BBC
"The official viewing figures from Saturday’s live coverage of Rugby League World Cup 2013 on the BBC show a peak audience of 2.2m watched England’s final group game against Fiji. The match, which England won 34-12, had a 15% share of the total viewing audience across all channels.
These latest figures compare very strongly with other sport available to audiences on Saturday and shows how Rugby League World Cup 2013 is capturing the interest of the British sporting public. For example the ATP Tennis World Tour Finals on BBC2 at the same time had a 1.2million peak audience, the rugby union England v Argentina international had a peak of 571,000, while the live Premier League football on SKY had a peak of 810,000."

After some research i found out that both the Rugby Union and Football(soccer) match were televised on pay tv whereas the RLWC game was on FTA. Now to make these tv figures more compareable im using the FTA:PTV ratios we roughly see in australia on a w/e (which is about 2.5/3:1). Using that it shows that the RLWC games tv audience is comparable to the RU (just a little less). the soccer tv figures are first by a long shot. Although not smashing the other codes in the UK, from these figures its clear that there is healthy interest in ther rugby league WC.
http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... wers-watch

Hey, Fyiar - this is The Fight Club! It's all about fighting! The code wars! So if you can't take being disparaged, then too fricking bad!
Phelpsy we have more international reach than rugby league. 69 v 50. We are winning the international war, and all the RL fans can do is nit pick.

Look i dont want to get into a slanging match, you have ur opinion on this and alot of other people have a different one. i do suggest you check out Phelpsy's comment above though...

You seem to be a reasonable guy willing to talk logically and that's good.
All the KPI's show AFL is number and mostly by a large margin except for ratings.
The international scene is more open to debate.
Yes, rl has a larger international scene mainly because it's semi-pro in England and in some places players have flipped from RU to rl. noticebly the Pacific, giving rl some profile. This is fact but the forgotton facts are that the situation is stagnating and arguably worse. NZ increasingly looks to rl, but the big England Vs Australia tests are long gone and English rl at professional level has lots of problems More worrying would be the demise of Frannce hardly compensated by the rise of Fiji.

The english super league competition is not semi-pro, they do not leave training to go work somewhere else. its a professional competition. Also i disagree with you about the demise of RL in France, it couldnt be further from the truth. currently one team in the super league with another team about to enter. I have heard in this forum many times from AR supporters how they believe that their code had been treated unfairly and basically in a constant battle with the media, rl fans etc in NSW... that may or may not be true (i dont really believe so myself but thats not the point) but what is 100% factual is how the French government (not media or spiteful non supporters) basically blacklisted the sport in the 70s, cutting funding whilst increasing funding to RU. many rumors of why they did what they did (im not gonna get into them), but basically it has only been in recent years that RL has been given the chance to grow again in France, and it is growing there not in demise.

Some people love to put the international profile of Australian Football down. Not so long ago it was virtually zero but now we have seen good growth and some exceptional growth. To say AR is played in more countries than rl is true but hardly gives the right impression. AR still has a long long way to go but I am extremely happy with the advancement of AR overseas not only in the participation rates, number of countries, professional level but also the iniformity of improvement.

"To say AR is played in more countries than rl is true", i do not actually believe that is the case. what i do believe though is the AFL does a better job getting in some way involved/in correspondence with these fledgling amateur leagues/groups around the world than what the NRL do. I dont think the NRL really cares what RL competitions are developing in certain places around the world whereas the AFL does (and im not saying either is right or wrong). Because of this the AFL would have a much better understanding of where and how many there are (AR comps). The NRL has little involvment with the english super league let alone the distant amateur comps that would majority be played by ex-pats. thats my thoughts.

if your compare the relative positions of the two codes then of course you would be happy that rl is still out there but you wouldn't be happy that it's stagnating.

we have different opinions there too.

[AFLcrap1]

The international scene is more open to debate..


How the fuck can anyone argue that .
Jesus h Christ there is no debate...

Cos,just because you WISH AFL had some legitimate INTERNATIONAL profile doesn't make it so.
I wish to win lotto ..doesn't make it so..

& tards like you wonder why AFL fans are ridiculed & laughed at.

[NRLCrap1]

Hey, Fyiar - this is The Fight Club! It's all about fighting! The code wars! So if you can't take being disparaged, then too fricking bad!

Phelpsy we have more international reach than rugby league. 69 v 50. We are winning the international war, and all the RL fans can do is nit pick.

I know it's the fight club you dropkick. I'm saying that why is it predominantly AFL people continually trying to undermine the RLWC? highlights your insecurities as we clearly dont give a shit, we're sitting back enjoying the games while you twiddle your thumbs for 2014. And before that we will also have the NRL 9s which looks awesome. 40k/50k tix sold several months in advance in ANOTHER country. something you could only dream about.

The RLWC is wide open for undermining, you goose! And I'm not twiddling my thumbs! I'm looking at the form guide for the draft on Thursday! And AFL has 9's as well BTW!! Selling out in another country doesn't happen with club games does it? You need rep footy to do it. We DON'T! Something that YOU could only dream about it!

Phelpsy, I judge O/S presence on numbers. AFL ticks more boxes even if we miss a few that RL ticks.

if RLWC is open for undermining, wonder where that leaves international AFL lol. FIFA......RUWC.....RLWC .........50 miles of crap.....international AFL.

It puts us ahead of you, because unlike the RLWC, the IC regulates it's rep teams!! That's the undermining, goose!

Hey 214, I said this before. Two million viewers in England is a JOKE!! Should have been at least four!

[ParraEelsNRL]

Can't say I've disparaged it really. But youve got to say, it hasn't had great ratings or interest for a so called world event. Obviously better than the AFL could do though, I'll give you that.

I would have to disagree with you there...
Here is section of an article written in the UK,

Over Two million viewers watch England in RLWC2013 on BBC
"The official viewing figures from Saturday’s live coverage of Rugby League World Cup 2013 on the BBC show a peak audience of 2.2m watched England’s final group game against Fiji. The match, which England won 34-12, had a 15% share of the total viewing audience across all channels.
These latest figures compare very strongly with other sport available to audiences on Saturday and shows how Rugby League World Cup 2013 is capturing the interest of the British sporting public. For example the ATP Tennis World Tour Finals on BBC2 at the same time had a 1.2million peak audience, the rugby union England v Argentina international had a peak of 571,000, while the live Premier League football on SKY had a peak of 810,000."

After some research i found out that both the Rugby Union and Football(soccer) match were televised on pay tv whereas the RLWC game was on FTA. Now to make these tv figures more compareable im using the FTA:PTV ratios we roughly see in australia on a w/e (which is about 2.5/3:1). Using that it shows that the RLWC games tv audience is comparable to the RU (just a little less). the soccer tv figures are first by a long shot. Although not smashing the other codes in the UK, from these figures its clear that there is healthy interest in ther rugby league WC.
http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... wers-watch

Hey, Fyiar - this is The Fight Club! It's all about fighting! The code wars! So if you can't take being disparaged, then too fricking bad!
Phelpsy we have more international reach than rugby league. 69 v 50. We are winning the international war, and all the RL fans can do is nit pick.

Look i dont want to get into a slanging match, you have ur opinion on this and alot of other people have a different one. i do suggest you check out Phelpsy's comment above though...

You seem to be a reasonable guy willing to talk logically and that's good.
All the KPI's show AFL is number and mostly by a large margin except for ratings.
The international scene is more open to debate.
Yes, rl has a larger international scene mainly because it's semi-pro in England and in some places players have flipped from RU to rl. noticebly the Pacific, giving rl some profile. This is fact but the forgotton facts are that the situation is stagnating and arguably worse. NZ increasingly looks to rl, but the big England Vs Australia tests are long gone and English rl at professional level has lots of problems More worrying would be the demise of Frannce hardly compensated by the rise of Fiji.

The english super league competition is not semi-pro, they do not leave training to go work somewhere else. its a professional competition. Also i disagree with you about the demise of RL in France, it couldnt be further from the truth. currently one team in the super league with another team about to enter. I have heard in this forum many times from AR supporters how they believe that their code had been treated unfairly and basically in a constant battle with the media, rl fans etc in NSW... that may or may not be true (i dont really believe so myself but thats not the point) but what is 100% factual is how the French government (not media or spiteful non supporters) basically blacklisted the sport in the 70s, cutting funding whilst increasing funding to RU. many rumors of why they did what they did (im not gonna get into them), but basically it has only been in recent years that RL has been given the chance to grow again in France, and it is growing there not in demise.

Some people love to put the international profile of Australian Football down. Not so long ago it was virtually zero but now we have seen good growth and some exceptional growth. To say AR is played in more countries than rl is true but hardly gives the right impression. AR still has a long long way to go but I am extremely happy with the advancement of AR overseas not only in the participation rates, number of countries, professional level but also the iniformity of improvement.

"To say AR is played in more countries than rl is true", i do not actually believe that is the case. what i do believe though is the AFL does a better job getting in some way involved/in correspondence with these fledgling amateur leagues/groups around the world than what the NRL do. I dont think the NRL really cares what RL competitions are developing in certain places around the world whereas the AFL does (and im not saying either is right or wrong). Because of this the AFL would have a much better understanding of where and how many there are (AR comps). The NRL has little involvment with the english super league let alone the distant amateur comps that would majority be played by ex-pats. thats my thoughts.

if your compare the relative positions of the two codes then of course you would be happy that rl is still out there but you wouldn't be happy that it's stagnating.

we have different opinions there too.

Bahaha, why would you need to research it if it was in the fucking article?

[ParraEelsNRL]

Research something that was already printed then come back and make out you found out about some conspiracy

[214Four]

Research something that was already printed then come back and make out you found out about some conspiracy

mate where in that article does it mention that the soccer and the union is on paytv and where does it say league on fta?

[214Four]

Research something that was already printed then come back and make out you found out about some conspiracy

The official viewing figures from Saturday’s live coverage of Rugby League World Cup 2013 on the BBC show a peak audience of 2.2m watched England’s final group game against Fiji. The match, which England won 34-12, had a 15% share of the total viewing audience across all channels.

These latest figures compare very strongly with other sport available to audiences on Saturday and shows how Rugby League World Cup 2013 is capturing the interest of the British sporting public. For example the ATP Tennis World Tour Finals on BBC2 at the same time had a 1.2million peak audience, the rugby union England v Argentina international had a peak of 571,000, while the live Premier League football on SKY had a peak of 810,000.

Tonight sees the final group match of RLWC2013 taking place between France and Samoa in Perpignan, kick off 8pm local time (7pm GMT). This game will determine who England and Fiji will play in their respective quarter-finals this weekend and full coverage of the match is available on 5 Live Sports Extra, with highlights on BBC2 at 11.20pm.

RLWC2013 Tournament Director Nigel Wood said: “These figures demonstrate how the excitement and high-quality matches we have seen in Rugby League World Cup 2013 are capturing the wider sporting public.

“It has been fantastic to have seen so many record attendances at the group matches themselves, as well as such excellent viewing figures and the next few weeks, as we enter the drama and tension of the knock-out phases of the tournament, are a wonderful opportunity for the sport to build on this initial success.”

For tickets to the knock-out stages of Rugby League World Cup 2013, including ‘The Big Hit’ semi-final double header at Wembley on November 23 and The Rugby League World Cup final at Old Trafford on November 30, visit http://www.rlwc2013.com or call the 24 hour ticket line 08448472013

Again where in that article does it say that union and soccer was actually on pay and league on fta?? please help me i obviously am missing some sabliminal messages someewhere

[214Four]

PARRAEELSNRL-

i dont know about urself, but i have morals when it comes to flaunting random figures, see i feel a need to actually check them alittle bit and see if they are 100% accurate. thats why i checked online to see what code played on what channel(as i dont know the uk paytv/fta channel arrangements as i live in sydney not london). after noticing an inaccurate comparrison due to some on fta others not, i then tried to make a more accurate judgement.

if u think thats odd then so be it, i dont just believe figures put infront of me as gospel just cos some really really smart person used his calculator and the multiplication table and came up with these figures, who then gave it to another smart I.T guy who then ued al his interlect to put it on a webpage and they must be right... bias, prejudice, alternate motives dont mean much to you?? i guess you still believe in santa aswell?

[NRLCrap1]

Wow! An RL fan calls out his own! Nice one!

[pHyR3]

Hey, Fyiar - this is The Fight Club! It's all about fighting! The code wars! So if you can't take being disparaged, then too fricking bad!

Phelpsy we have more international reach than rugby league. 69 v 50. We are winning the international war, and all the RL fans can do is nit pick.

I know it's the fight club you dropkick. I'm saying that why is it predominantly AFL people continually trying to undermine the RLWC? highlights your insecurities as we clearly dont give a shit, we're sitting back enjoying the games while you twiddle your thumbs for 2014. And before that we will also have the NRL 9s which looks awesome. 40k/50k tix sold several months in advance in ANOTHER country. something you could only dream about.

The RLWC is wide open for undermining, you goose! And I'm not twiddling my thumbs! I'm looking at the form guide for the draft on Thursday! And AFL has 9's as well BTW!! Selling out in another country doesn't happen with club games does it? You need rep footy to do it. We DON'T! Something that YOU could only dream about it!

Phelpsy, I judge O/S presence on numbers. AFL ticks more boxes even if we miss a few that RL ticks.

if RLWC is open for undermining, wonder where that leaves international AFL lol. FIFA......RUWC.....RLWC .........50 miles of crap.....international AFL.

It puts us ahead of you, because unlike the RLWC, the IC regulates it's rep teams!! That's the undermining, goose!

Hey 214, I said this before. Two million viewers in England is a JOKE!! Should have been at least four!

Address the rest of my point, or maybe you can't

Why should it have been 4? have rl ratings for group stages surpassed 4 in the past? Don't think so. We need to show there is a healthy interest in the game and improve on previous results. We have and will do that. Prove me wrong.

In any case the semi will hit 4 million I reckon

[NRLCrap1]

Oh honestly Fyiar!! 2 millions is PISS WEAK in England! 4 million would be about average for a good program! Your semi should get 6 million! IF IT WAS ANY GOOD!!!

SOO gets 4 million here from 22 million right? Make the comparison with 53 million and you'll see my fricking point!!