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[quote="King Eliagh]Well...first of all I'd like to caution the majority of our members of the AFL persuasion that viewing the following CCTV Footage may raise your already high oestrogen levels and create those disturbing unsettling emotions within you to boil and spurt out on these pages in teary whelps and yelps of rubbish like "but whaaaaaat about the children" and "violence doesnt solve anything" [/quote]
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You want to see that in Under 12's, Eliagh? That's what you'll get if you fricking allow that!
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The law and therefore society has condoned billy's actions folks, so why oh why has the AFL gone so far in the opposite direction?? If it was the AFL handing out Billy's punishment for that nightclub incident Billy would have gotten 10 weeks and the guy who slapped him would've gotten nothing, nothing! I mean whaaaaaat tha fukkk!!?? Why do they not condone self defense, as a result they encourage dog like acts by players such as milne, ballantyne, crowley and the umpteen others who are noticing that cheap shots are worth it these days. It's a flamin disgrace.

Swines you stoopid clown, dont you go siding with your mod bitch Xman. Lemme make this straight. This thread is about defending yourself and the right to do so on the sporting field. That includes not letting pricks smack you over the ear for no reason. If Billy had been a soft wanker like xman or crap1 he would've rubbed his ear, had a lil cry, and then tried to ask security and the police to do something about it, which they no doubt would have done very little. Police and any judge would laugh off a slap like that, not taking into account the serious disrespectfulness of the attack. A massive majority of all RL fights occur when someone has wrongfully provoked another and the refs have either not seen or not punished the player appropriately. This is when we all as citizens have the right to respond to respect our dignity and to, to a degree, uphold the rights of citizens to defend against wrongdoing.

'Twas a beautiful right cross indeed from our Billy.

*KE knowing he can do it scot free looks to resident mod bitch and bitch slaps Xman, before calling on others to do the same :\: :lol:
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What about that clown who king hit and killed a bloke in kings cross and only got 4 years for it? He had been on a mini rampage randomly hitting others on the street who did not respond. Could/did the police stop him before it was too late? No. But had the ***** come across an upstanding man like Billy slater earlier in his night of random attacks, then I think we would've had one less death from a king hit and a very sore and sorry clown who would think twice before going round clocking people.

There is a place for violence in this world. It's been something we and the animals have been using since day dot. Dont let Xman's and crap1's fantasy view of the world/belief our law and legal institution is the be all and end all fool you folks ;)
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Question - Why don't the police get involved when there are punches on a sporting field? Because it's not in their jurisdiction unless a formal complaint is made. So the sporting bodies can make their own rules and if they want to be tough about it with suspensions then let them! It's sport's way of getting it out of there! And the cops accept that!

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Ten weeks was right. And it's the retaliator that always gets caught, you goose!

Anyway, in the AFL the video would have nailed the originator and they both would have been suspended for 10 weeks!

So suck on that!

There's a place in this world for violence, huh? How about I kick you in the head and see how you like it? We are not animals, Eliagh. We are human beings.
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Ten weeks was right. And it's the retaliator that always gets caught, you goose!

Anyway, in the AFL the video would have nailed the originator and they both would have been suspended for 10 weeks!

So suck on that!

There's a place in this world for violence, huh? How about I kick you in the head and see how you like it? We are not animals, Eliagh. We are human beings.
:lol: Yeah suuuuure the AFL wouldve given the, as you call it 'originator' :lol: 10 weeks. :roll:

NRLcrap1? He's just another chump who you could bitch slap silly and he wouldnt stick up for himself. Instead he'd tell police and try and take you to court. Where coppas and the judge would laugh themselves silly. :lol:

Stand up for yourself crap1! There's a time and a place for it and Billy may well have saved some other bloke a broken nose or jaw or worse by snotting that silly pom good and proper :thumbleft: :cheers: :thumbleft:
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King-Eliagh wrote:
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[quote="King Eliagh]Well...first of all I'd like to caution the majority of our members of the AFL persuasion that viewing the following CCTV Footage may raise your already high oestrogen levels and create those disturbing unsettling emotions within you to boil and spurt out on these pages in teary whelps and yelps of rubbish like "but whaaaaaat about the children" and "violence doesnt solve anything"
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You want to see that in Under 12's, Eliagh? That's what you'll get if you fricking allow that!
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:(/ Oh how right i was again.

The law and therefore society has condoned billy's actions folks, so why oh why has the AFL gone so far in the opposite direction?? If it was the AFL handing out Billy's punishment for that nightclub incident Billy would have gotten 10 weeks and the guy who slapped him would've gotten nothing, nothing! I mean whaaaaaat tha fukkk!!?? Why do they not condone self defense, as a result they encourage dog like acts by players such as milne, ballantyne, crowley and the umpteen others who are noticing that cheap shots are worth it these days. It's a flamin disgrace.

Swines you stoopid clown, dont you go siding with your mod bitch Xman. Lemme make this straight. This thread is about defending yourself and the right to do so on the sporting field. That includes not letting pricks smack you over the ear for no reason. If Billy had been a soft wanker like xman or crap1 he would've rubbed his ear, had a lil cry, and then tried to ask security and the police to do something about it, which they no doubt would have done very little. Police and any judge would laugh off a slap like that, not taking into account the serious disrespectfulness of the attack. A massive majority of all RL fights occur when someone has wrongfully provoked another and the refs have either not seen or not punished the player appropriately. This is when we all as citizens have the right to respond to respect our dignity and to, to a degree, uphold the rights of citizens to defend against wrongdoing.

'Twas a beautiful right cross indeed from our Billy.

*KE knowing he can do it scot free looks to resident mod bitch and bitch slaps Xman, before calling on others to do the same :\: :lol:[/quote]

Again you are trying to say all violence is necessary and warranted, the fact is Gallen punched someone on a playing field when there was NO immediate provocation or need for him to defend himself - Billy punched after being assaulted - now in ANY self defence case (and you can enquire with any lawyer on this ) 1st the defence must be in response to an IMMEDIATE threat to oneself, 2nd the defence MUST be reasonable in the circumstances and lastly MUST be proportionate to the threat your facing. There was a delay in Billy's response and COULD not necessarily WOULD be argued that the threat to Billy had passed and it was an act of reciprocity out of provocation rather than true self defence. What your saying is ANYONE who feels slighted has the right to attack - that is not what the law says - for the brain dead Neanderthals who follow RL on this site it should be made abundantly clear self defence is ONLY applicable as I have stated above - but by all means don't take my word look it up for yourself Zecevic v DPP (Vic) (1987) HCA 26.

So before you get high and mighty about your ill conceived notions on the benefits of dishing out summary justice on those that offend I would think twice before you do so!
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Swans4ever wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
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[quote="King Eliagh]Well...first of all I'd like to caution the majority of our members of the AFL persuasion that viewing the following CCTV Footage may raise your already high oestrogen levels and create those disturbing unsettling emotions within you to boil and spurt out on these pages in teary whelps and yelps of rubbish like "but whaaaaaat about the children" and "violence doesnt solve anything"
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You want to see that in Under 12's, Eliagh? That's what you'll get if you fricking allow that!
Xma'am wrote:
two wrongs dont make a right
:(/ Oh how right i was again.

The law and therefore society has condoned billy's actions folks, so why oh why has the AFL gone so far in the opposite direction?? If it was the AFL handing out Billy's punishment for that nightclub incident Billy would have gotten 10 weeks and the guy who slapped him would've gotten nothing, nothing! I mean whaaaaaat tha fukkk!!?? Why do they not condone self defense, as a result they encourage dog like acts by players such as milne, ballantyne, crowley and the umpteen others who are noticing that cheap shots are worth it these days. It's a flamin disgrace.

Swines you stoopid clown, dont you go siding with your mod bitch Xman. Lemme make this straight. This thread is about defending yourself and the right to do so on the sporting field. That includes not letting pricks smack you over the ear for no reason. If Billy had been a soft wanker like xman or crap1 he would've rubbed his ear, had a lil cry, and then tried to ask security and the police to do something about it, which they no doubt would have done very little. Police and any judge would laugh off a slap like that, not taking into account the serious disrespectfulness of the attack. A massive majority of all RL fights occur when someone has wrongfully provoked another and the refs have either not seen or not punished the player appropriately. This is when we all as citizens have the right to respond to respect our dignity and to, to a degree, uphold the rights of citizens to defend against wrongdoing.

'Twas a beautiful right cross indeed from our Billy.

*KE knowing he can do it scot free looks to resident mod bitch and bitch slaps Xman, before calling on others to do the same :\: :lol:
- but by all means don't take my word look it up for yourself Zecevic v DPP (Vic) (1987) HCA 26.

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King-Eliagh wrote:
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Ten weeks was right. And it's the retaliator that always gets caught, you goose!

Anyway, in the AFL the video would have nailed the originator and they both would have been suspended for 10 weeks!

So suck on that!

There's a place in this world for violence, huh? How about I kick you in the head and see how you like it? We are not animals, Eliagh. We are human beings.
:lol: Yeah suuuuure the AFL wouldve given the, as you call it 'originator' :lol: 10 weeks. :roll:

NRLcrap1? He's just another chump who you could bitch slap silly and he wouldnt stick up for himself. Instead he'd tell police and try and take you to court. Where coppas and the judge would laugh themselves silly. :lol:

Stand up for yourself crap1! There's a time and a place for it and Billy may well have saved some other bloke a broken nose or jaw or worse by snotting that silly pom good and proper :thumbleft: :cheers: :thumbleft:
On the street and on the sporting field are two different things, you fricking goose! Self defence is fine as long as it doesn't cross the line! You bet the originator would have got 10 weeks in the AFL! If you think he'd get off you really are a mentally deficient fool! But it shouldn't have started in the first place! That's why there is NO place for it on the street OR on the sporting field!
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What about that clown who king hit and killed a bloke in kings cross and only got 4 years for it? He had been on a mini rampage randomly hitting others on the street who did not respond. Could/did the police stop him before it was too late? No. But had the ***** come across an upstanding man like Billy slater earlier in his night of random attacks, then I think we would've had one less death from a king hit and a very sore and sorry clown who would think twice before going round clocking people.

There is a place for violence in this world. It's been something we and the animals have been using since day dot. Dont let Xman's and crap1's fantasy view of the world/belief our law and legal institution is the be all and end all fool you folks ;)
We live in a civilised society where violence is illegal and has no place. What if slater had knocked the guy unconscious, he hit his head on the concrete, suffered brain injury and died? What if the guy was surrounded by his mates who then joined in and beat the crap out of Slater? The best course of action would have been to refer the matter to security, who happened to be standing right next to him, and let the law take care of the matter without further violence.

Slater didnt instigated the violence so he wasn't charged. But if his actions killed the guy I bet he would have faced charges for what amounted to a retaliation.
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Raiderdave wrote:
Swans4ever wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
:lol:

[quote="King Eliagh]Well...first of all I'd like to caution the majority of our members of the AFL persuasion that viewing the following CCTV Footage may raise your already high oestrogen levels and create those disturbing unsettling emotions within you to boil and spurt out on these pages in teary whelps and yelps of rubbish like "but whaaaaaat about the children" and "violence doesnt solve anything"
crap1 wrote:
You want to see that in Under 12's, Eliagh? That's what you'll get if you fricking allow that!
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two wrongs dont make a right
:(/ Oh how right i was again.

The law and therefore society has condoned billy's actions folks, so why oh why has the AFL gone so far in the opposite direction?? If it was the AFL handing out Billy's punishment for that nightclub incident Billy would have gotten 10 weeks and the guy who slapped him would've gotten nothing, nothing! I mean whaaaaaat tha fukkk!!?? Why do they not condone self defense, as a result they encourage dog like acts by players such as milne, ballantyne, crowley and the umpteen others who are noticing that cheap shots are worth it these days. It's a flamin disgrace.

Swines you stoopid clown, dont you go siding with your mod bitch Xman. Lemme make this straight. This thread is about defending yourself and the right to do so on the sporting field. That includes not letting pricks smack you over the ear for no reason. If Billy had been a soft wanker like xman or crap1 he would've rubbed his ear, had a lil cry, and then tried to ask security and the police to do something about it, which they no doubt would have done very little. Police and any judge would laugh off a slap like that, not taking into account the serious disrespectfulness of the attack. A massive majority of all RL fights occur when someone has wrongfully provoked another and the refs have either not seen or not punished the player appropriately. This is when we all as citizens have the right to respond to respect our dignity and to, to a degree, uphold the rights of citizens to defend against wrongdoing.

'Twas a beautiful right cross indeed from our Billy.

*KE knowing he can do it scot free looks to resident mod bitch and bitch slaps Xman, before calling on others to do the same :\: :lol:
- but by all means don't take my word look it up for yourself Zecevic v DPP (Vic) (1987) HCA 26.

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Ex-NRL star Craig Field unleashed 'lightning' king-hit to inflict fatal injuries on man, court told
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Friends and family of the victim outside Lismore court. Pic: Jason O'Brien

IT CAME "like lightning" - one killer punch, thrown by ex-NRL star Craig Field during a pub fight.

"I saw one quick left hook - it was like lightning - and I saw a man go down and he never got up again," Marie Hamilton told a Lismore court on the opening day of Field's murder committal hearing yesterday.

Field, a former South Sydney Rabbitohs skipper who also played for Manly and Wests Tigers, is charged with murdering Tweed cattle farmer Kelvin Kane outside Kingscliff Hotel in July last year.

The 40-year-old is jointly charged with Shaun Fathers, 42, who with Field was coaching the Cudgen Hornets on the Tweed Coast when Mr Kane was killed.

Police allege Field threw the fatal punch but that Fathers was a party to the crime.


Mr Kane, 50, suffered massive head injuries when he fell to the ground after he was king-hit in the pub carpark. He died in Tweed Heads Hospital a day later after his family made the decision to turn off his life support.

A large number of Mr Kane's relatives and friends, some of them in tears, were at Lismore Local Court for the start of the six-day committal hearing. Field and Fathers showed no emotion as they sat in the dock.

Ms Hamilton and daughter Rhianne Oram, who live in units behind the Kingscliff Hotel, said they heard yelling coming from the pub carpark on the night of the incident.

They walked out on to their balcony and saw a melee involving 10 to 15 people before two men peeled off.

"There was pushing, shoving and arguing," Ms Hamilton said.

"Two men went to the right and were arguing. They were having their own little barney.

"That's when I saw one quick left hook ... and I saw a man go down."

Star prosecution witness Lyn Burgher, a friend of Mr Kane's who was at the pub on the night of the incident, is expected to give evidence when the committal hearing continues today.

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Nope! Or rather he shouldn't be!
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13 minute mark, the off siders were pretty disgusted by Slaters over reaction which was ridiculously labelled self defence.

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/offsiders/c ... 892678.htm
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Swans4ever wrote:
King-Eliagh wrote:
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[quote="King Eliagh]Well...first of all I'd like to caution the majority of our members of the AFL persuasion that viewing the following CCTV Footage may raise your already high oestrogen levels and create those disturbing unsettling emotions within you to boil and spurt out on these pages in teary whelps and yelps of rubbish like "but whaaaaaat about the children" and "violence doesnt solve anything"
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:(/ Oh how right i was again.

The law and therefore society has condoned billy's actions folks, so why oh why has the AFL gone so far in the opposite direction?? If it was the AFL handing out Billy's punishment for that nightclub incident Billy would have gotten 10 weeks and the guy who slapped him would've gotten nothing, nothing! I mean whaaaaaat tha fukkk!!?? Why do they not condone self defense, as a result they encourage dog like acts by players such as milne, ballantyne, crowley and the umpteen others who are noticing that cheap shots are worth it these days. It's a flamin disgrace.

Swines you stoopid clown, dont you go siding with your mod bitch Xman. Lemme make this straight. This thread is about defending yourself and the right to do so on the sporting field. That includes not letting pricks smack you over the ear for no reason. If Billy had been a soft wanker like xman or crap1 he would've rubbed his ear, had a lil cry, and then tried to ask security and the police to do something about it, which they no doubt would have done very little. Police and any judge would laugh off a slap like that, not taking into account the serious disrespectfulness of the attack. A massive majority of all RL fights occur when someone has wrongfully provoked another and the refs have either not seen or not punished the player appropriately. This is when we all as citizens have the right to respond to respect our dignity and to, to a degree, uphold the rights of citizens to defend against wrongdoing.

'Twas a beautiful right cross indeed from our Billy.

*KE knowing he can do it scot free looks to resident mod bitch and bitch slaps Xman, before calling on others to do the same :\: :lol:
Again you are trying to say all violence is necessary and warranted[/quote]

Hey knobhead? Justify and validate your bolded first line above, with reference and quotations to my comments, and then perhaps the rest of your ramble might be worth reading and quoting.

Seriously, the level of intelligence amongst these snotfobrains is beyond astounding!

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In fact, its warding off new and current members in their droves. A stain on the site is swines. [-X
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Xman wrote:
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What about that clown who king hit and killed a bloke in kings cross and only got 4 years for it? He had been on a mini rampage randomly hitting others on the street who did not respond. Could/did the police stop him before it was too late? No. But had the ***** come across an upstanding man like Billy slater earlier in his night of random attacks, then I think we would've had one less death from a king hit and a very sore and sorry clown who would think twice before going round clocking people.

There is a place for violence in this world. It's been something we and the animals have been using since day dot. Dont let Xman's and crap1's fantasy view of the world/belief our law and legal institution is the be all and end all fool you folks ;)
We live in a civilised society where violence is illegal and has no place.
School time for you again Xman. The Federal Government of the country you or your ancestors have recently immigrated to both condones, validates and has institutionalised the use of violence through both the armed forces and police. Fortunately our government doesnt live in fairy floss land wearing the same rosie coloured shades as you Xman. The government recognises that our society isnt always "civilised" and that violence often does have 'a place in the society we live in'. Until you can validate what you said ie "that we live in a wholly civilised society where violence has no place" then the rest of your dribble, like swines' is not worth reading nor addressing. [-X

Seriously again, the level of intelligence amongst some of the AFL loony buffoons on this website is really concerning...and quite the deterrant to new and current members. And to think beaussies stamped this Xman git with a mod badge is quite hilarious, in fact, its hilarious to the point of sobriety as poor beaussie doesnt recognise it's actually defeating the purpose of his own ambitions for the site.

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