Racism off the field NRL vs AFL

[King-Eliagh]

I'm trying to teach you what racism is. You clearly need the lesson. Now listen up swines me boy.

[Stewie]

A quick search on Andrew Johns will teach you what racism is.

[King-Eliagh]

I already know what racism is. Swines needs some learning. Johns is a racist git.

[Judge J]

From a legal standing, it is quite appropriate for Goodes to seek to help the girl who clearly made her comment out of ignorance and not racism intentionally. She was thoroughly apologetic and it showed that she learned. She won't repeat it. Excellently handled by Goodes.

I wish I could say the same for Eddie Maguire though. Sheer carelessness that should have earned him a fine and some time off the air.

[Stewie]

Manly Racism Complaint
NRL investigate racism complaint made by Manly director

The NRL is investigating a racism complaint made by Manly director Darrell Williams under the league's anti-vilification policy after a Sea Eagles board meeting.

Williams claims fellow board member Rick Penn made derogatory comments at him, calling him "boy". He made an official complaint to the NRL on Saturday night via email.

"As I had driven this conversation, Rick took particular aim at me and uttered the words, 'Listen here BOY!' or 'you have no idea what you're talking about BOY!'," Williams wrote in the email.

"I immediately interjected and pointed out to the Chairman Scott Penn, that I took offense to the word (boy) in the context that it was used by Rick and I would not tolerate it being said again.

"Unfortunately, Scoot [sic] Penn chose to defend Rick, his father, instead of cautioning Rick about his remark.

"I took further exception to Rick, in trying to justify his language, when he also uttered, 'what are you talking about, I deal with your kind/people all the time'."

NRL boss David Smith said in an official statement released today that “that any suggestion of racism has to be treated seriously."

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/ ... -williams/

[piesman2011]

Manly Racism Complaint
NRL investigate racism complaint made by Manly director

The NRL is investigating a racism complaint made by Manly director Darrell Williams under the league's anti-vilification policy after a Sea Eagles board meeting.

Williams claims fellow board member Rick Penn made derogatory comments at him, calling him "boy". He made an official complaint to the NRL on Saturday night via email.

"As I had driven this conversation, Rick took particular aim at me and uttered the words, 'Listen here BOY!' or 'you have no idea what you're talking about BOY!'," Williams wrote in the email.

"I immediately interjected and pointed out to the Chairman Scott Penn, that I took offense to the word (boy) in the context that it was used by Rick and I would not tolerate it being said again.

"Unfortunately, Scoot [sic] Penn chose to defend Rick, his father, instead of cautioning Rick about his remark.

"I took further exception to Rick, in trying to justify his language, when he also uttered, 'what are you talking about, I deal with your kind/people all the time'."

NRL boss David Smith said in an official statement released today that “that any suggestion of racism has to be treated seriously."

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/ ... -williams/

Just another example that the people involved in the NRL are no different to the AFL, despite the whining coming from the RL posters.

[King-Eliagh]

On the surface pies, your statement appears true and valid. But, scratch the surface a little, apply some critical thinking and its pretty clear why the AFL has higher incidences of racism.

RL is an international sport, played professionally in numerous countries, engaging and linking players and officials of all different cultural backgrounds. Over the last 50 yrs of RL in Australia, sure there's been far too much racism, as is often the case when cultures first come into close contact...But as time goes on and through inclusion, tolerance, understanding and acceptance grow and those of different cultural backgrounds integrate together. This has an is happening quite nicely on a scale which it is simply not in Marngrook. Marngrook is unfortunately called 'Australian Rules' by the masses and is by comparison engaging players and officials of a largely white anglo celtic southern australian background, on a scale more representative of Australia in the 1950s. This code has a long ways to go, its sortof trying to get there.... but a loooong ways to go.

The spike in racism during Indigenous round last week in the AFL was absolutely appalling and indicative of a narrow minded racially vindictive culture, more representative of Australia in the 1950s. Eddie has been supported by his board, and at present looks like he will receive no punishment. A loooooong ways to go.

Please pies, in future try not to downplay the seriousness of this issue in your favoured code, and in fact your favoured club. Its quite immoral of you and I expect better of our mods.

[piesman2011]

On the surface pies, your statement appears true and valid. But, scratch the surface a little, apply some critical thinking and its pretty clear why the AFL has higher incidences of racism.

RL is an international sport, played professionally in numerous countries, engaging and linking players and officials of all different cultural backgrounds. Over the last 50 yrs of RL in Australia, sure there's been far too much racism, as is often the case when cultures first come into close contact...But as time goes on and through inclusion, tolerance, understanding and acceptance grow and those of different cultural backgrounds integrate together. This has an is happening quite nicely on a scale which it is simply not in Marngrook. Marngrook is unfortunately called 'Australian Rules' by the masses and is by comparison engaging players and officials of a largely white anglo celtic southern australian background, on a scale more representative of Australia in the 1950s. This code has a long ways to go, its sortof trying to get there.... but a loooong ways to go.

The spike in racism during Indigenous round last week in the AFL was absolutely appalling and indicative of a narrow minded racially vindictive culture, more representative of Australia in the 1950s. Eddie has been supported by his board, and at present looks like he will receive no punishment. A loooooong ways to go.

Please pies, in future try not to downplay the seriousness of this issue in your favoured code, and in fact your favoured club. Its quite immoral of you and I expect better of our mods.

Speaking of international sports, soccer has had more issues with a racism then any other sport in the world. That statement sort of counteracts most of your spiel. I'm certainly not down playing this I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of some of the posters on here who feel this is purely an AFL issue where the NRL issues appear to be worse if not as frequently reported.

[King-Eliagh]

Sheezus pies, you got any links for those fanciful statements? RL worse? Sorry but on whats been cited on this site and historically it looks as though the AFL has had far more incidents. And soccer having the most? Well even if you can find the link for this fanciful statement I wouldnt be at all surprised as its the biggest sport in the world right? Like umpteen times bigger than the AFL and NRL put together

Sorry but this doesnt, as you unconfidently say, "sortof counteract most of my spiel" ... at all!

Try again pies, that was one of your most piss poor efforts. Or, if you'd like to be correct and a winner, join me and agree with my points

Warm regards,
KING

[Stewie]

If the AFL do in fact have more incidents than the nRL, I guess it would be because the AFL is twice as big as the nRL.

[piesman2011]

Sheezus pies, you got any links for those fanciful statements? RL worse? Sorry but on whats been cited on this site and historically it looks as though the AFL has had far more incidents. And soccer having the most? Well even if you can find the link for this fanciful statement I wouldnt be at all surprised as its the biggest sport in the world right? Like umpteen times bigger than the AFL and NRL put together

Sorry but this doesnt, as you unconfidently say, "sortof counteract most of my spiel" ... at all!

Try again pies, that was one of your most piss poor efforts. Or, if you'd like to be correct and a winner, join me and agree with my points

Warm regards,
KING

I would have thought the bigots that have made obviously racist statements such as this manly guy and that commentator were overal worse, then the AFL comments. However i guess that this is debatable so Im happy to recant and say on a similar scale to the AFL incidents. I might leave it at that for the NRL/AFL comparison. Clearly the EPL is a league with a similar amount of teams to the AFL (20) also with a similar amount of fans at the games on average although they have a few more rounds. Here let me educate you a little, check this out

http://www.ndtv.com/topic/english-premier-league-racism

This took me five seconds to find.

[King-Eliagh]

Educate me? You seem to have missed my point. I'm comparing RL and marngrook in Australia. The English context is utterly different and not worth analysing. This is the AFL vs NRL fight club. Please, pies, stick on topic...as a mod I'd hope you would leave by example in following this fundamental posting rule.

[piesman2011]

Educate me? You seem to have missed my point. I'm comparing RL and marngrook in Australia. The English context is utterly different and not worth analysing. This is the AFL vs NRL fight club. Please, pies, stick on topic...as a mod I'd hope you would leave by example in following this fundamental posting rule.

Wow your all over the place again mate. First your like RL has less issues due to its international nature. Then your like prove soccer is worse and finally your like oh get back on topic this is AFL v NRL (translation KE was ignorant and even he realised that he looked like a goose).

Wait for it here's another slap. Ummm no it's not NRL v AFL forum look in the title of the forum mate. I was just educating you mate and I think my post had context due to your questioning of my soccer knowledge.
Maybe you will leave by example and exit this thread.

[King-Eliagh]

Oh dear. You understand little. Now forgive me if I'm wrong but where did I say "RL has less issues because of its international nature". This is quite a simple minded statement, something which you or stewie would put out there and think it's the shizz. I never said this, I wouldnt be so naive and narrow minded... this is just one element of the equation you silly derp. A culture of mutual understanding must be developed and that's the hard part, RL is still doing this and, considering what I see as relatively quite massive numbers of racist occurrences in the AFL, and the AFL's narrow 'national' scope, I suggested the AFL has a looooooong ways to go. And I'm right. :D

As for your, it's not just AFL vs NRL dribble? Meh what a feeble attempt to score points, where are the soccer and union supporters? I'm right again

[piesman2011]

Oh dear. You understand little. Now forgive me if I'm wrong but where did I say "RL has less issues because of its international nature". This is quite a simple minded statement, something which you or stewie would put out there and think it's the shizz. I never said this, I wouldnt be so naive and narrow minded...

RL is an international sport, played professionally in numerous countries, engaging and linking players and officials of all different cultural backgrounds. Over the last 50 yrs of RL in Australia, sure there's been far too much racism, as is often the case when cultures first come into close contact...But as time goes on and through inclusion, tolerance, understanding and acceptance grow and those of different cultural backgrounds integrate together.

Yeah sorry about the cheap point scoring at the end of my last post, I couldn't help myself and I'm bad, you are right and I think I might have seen one hardcore soccer fan in here.

Now to the international part. I'm not sure about the way you think and perhaps it is poorly written or my understanding of what you have written is poor, but to me this says RL international sport, and we are tolerant and accepting of other cultures (less racist then you) Maybe I interpreted what you said incorrectly but you can see where I'm coming from at least and I'm sure many others would have jumped to the same conclusion.
Now maybe you can say something about i can see your point of view and that i some times write things that are not perfect and give the wrong impression of what I truly mean. I know that I'm often wrong and I write poorly on occasions as well.