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Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:08 pm
by Raiderdave
piesman2011 wrote:
Half a dozen might get a two year ban. But I see them getting off if this letter comes to the surface, even if Dank faked the letter to show the Essendon officials. Half a dosen players banned wouldnt really affect Essendon as a club, it might cause a few issues with their premiership chances.
I would be more worried about the Sharks and their horse drugs.
oh but

you said they didn't do anything wrong

seems you were wrong
again

:lol: :lol: :lol:
whats that this year

897 times :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:09 pm
by Fred
Hope the drug cheating fucks get the book thrown at them. I would look into the arguement that the umpires may have used peds and then bribed going by the way umpires went today... Robbed the pies of three goals when they were on the match !!!!

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:23 pm
by piesman2011
Raiderdave wrote:
piesman2011 wrote:
Half a dozen might get a two year ban. But I see them getting off if this letter comes to the surface, even if Dank faked the letter to show the Essendon officials. Half a dosen players banned wouldnt really affect Essendon as a club, it might cause a few issues with their premiership chances.
I would be more worried about the Sharks and their horse drugs.
oh but

you said they didn't do anything wrong

seems you were wrong
again

:lol: :lol: :lol:
whats that this year

897 times :lol: :lol: :lol:
I never said that. Once again you are wrong.

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:50 pm
by Xman
Phelpsy wrote:
Hope the drug cheating fucks get the book thrown at them. I would look into the arguement that the umpires may have used peds and then bribed going by the way umpires went today... Robbed the pies of three goals when they were on the match !!!!
So Essendon werent the better team? :-k

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:40 pm
by King-Eliagh
The program Xman...get with it :roll:

Essendon were the better team but they may not have been if the umpires didnt negatively influence the match in the way they did.

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:32 pm
by Xman
King-Eliagh wrote:
The program Xman...get with it :roll:

Essendon were the better team but they may not have been if the umpires didnt negatively influence the match in the way they did.
So they were the better team. Sounds fair after their winning margin I would have thought :wink:

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:56 pm
by Swans4ever
Again what a load of shit, was it banned at the time they took it, did they take it in a banned way-couldn't give a shit alot of water to go under the bridge. One things for certain the Sharks taking horse steroids is definitely banned no doubt! I see that you dont bring that up!

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:00 pm
by Fred
It was all about when those two dodgy free kicks were paid when pies were on a roll and coming back .

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:06 pm
by King-Eliagh
Swans4ever wrote:
Again what a load of shit, was it banned at the time they took it, did they take it in a banned way-couldn't give a shit alot of water to go under the bridge. One things for certain the Sharks taking horse steroids is definitely banned no doubt! I see that you dont bring that up!
Sheezus does this homophobic gay man even know what thread he's in?

:lol:

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:36 am
by Swans4ever
Thats ur best come back - you are such a dribbler - what are you trying to be Assraiders clone or something? You are as original as last weeks bread, pretty obvious what I was responding to it was only 3 posts above. Really if your going to attack what I say be somewhay creative, ur like an 8 yr old predictable, and trying use what you heard someone else say. Usually it's been said about you, you no doubt are very close to that wanker Raiderdave you seem to parott whatever he says. Queen-Eliagh please try to think before you copy what other people say.

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:24 am
by King-Eliagh
:lol:

I read the post 3+ posts back. What you posted in reply was nothing more than a long string of mucus like drool. Get with the program swines. And if you must post out of context at least quote the post you're responding to if it is 3+posts back.

Now as for your other remarks...? Ahh again wht the hell are you on about? As far as I can tell I'm the only one who's called you a gay homophobic man. I want you outt tha closet swines, its 2013 and not cool to be all homophobic and shit no more. :wink:

Or maybe its my calling you swines now that you're on about. Yep this is raiderdaves nicname for you and appropriate nicnames get picked up by all and sundry, that's not parroting you silly swine :lol:

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:23 pm
by Swans4ever
No its not you parroting the nick-name that I'm talking about, and true you first started coining that dribble about homophobia (like I said in a previous post I don't mind it being legal it's when its compulsary that I have the problem!) thats why ignor it because most of you NRL clones usually make some reference to tight shorts or gAyFL, you react when I turn it back on you and on que. What my post above refered to was ur usual way of trying to attack but only using the same old stuff Raiderdave does this because he has no way of responding and deflection is an easy out! You do it because you are parroting Raiderdave because you feel it makes you like your idol. I don't need to support other AFL fans just like they don't need to support me. Thats why most AFL fans on here don't come accross as clones! Enough said use your usual come back of 'come out of the closet'. But I'd rather you were at least constructive in your insults-that way I would at least get a laugh!

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:01 pm
by Xman
The former chief legal adviser to the AFL Players Association has criticised anti-doping authorities but says Essendon's players now have an improved chance of avoiding suspension.
Andrew Scott, who spent a decade with the AFLPA through the 1990s, said a decision by the World Anti-Doping Agency last week to ban the anti-obesity drug AOD9604 because it had yet to be approved for human use had put it at odds with the Australian Crime Commission's own report into drugs in sport.
AOD9604 is at the centre of investigations involving sports scientist Stephen Dank and the Essendon and Melbourne football clubs.
Dank has admitted to administering it to Essendon players, with the Bombers confirming several of their players had taken it.

''On the face of it, these two developments should all add up to the clearest proof that those players had committed anti-doping rule violations and the only question would be what level of sanctions would be imposed,'' Scott, of Moores Legal, said.
''As things now stand, because of the shortcomings inherent in Australia's peak doping and enforcement regime, it is hard to imagine how the club, let alone its employees, the players who believed they were following well-informed advice, could be banned from competition.
''The WADA announcement is at odds with the Australian Crime Commission's own report into drugs in sport. It is even at odds with the Australia Sports Anti-Doping Authority's own online substance checking device, or at best does nothing to assist those who don't know the first thing about AOD9604,'' Scott said.
''Whilst WADA asserted that the number of recent inquires motivated it to publicly confirm that the catch-all clause, known as section zero, clearly brought AOD9604 within the broad definition of prohibited substances, the fact that, between them, ASADA and the ACC had got it wrong in the first place might have had more to do with it.
''I think unless something else comes out that hasn't been flagged yet, it's going to be quite open for them [Essendon] to say: 'Look, we might be technically guilty of the anti-doping rule violation but we can get in under the no-fault sanction' and get as little as a reprimand.''

The AFL Players Association has suggested WADA's move did not alter the legal and moral defence the players could mount, with players able to argue they were following instructions. ASADA is set to begin interviewing Essendon players within a fortnight.
Players signed consent forms last year that stated the substances were WADA compliant. If the players do face doping sanctions, any prosecution by doping authorities is likely to face legal challenges.
It has since emerged the Bombers have discovered an invoice for the banned performance-enhancing supplement Hexarelin, although this is not proof anyone at the club took the drug. Dank has denied using Hexarelin on the players, although he did admit to using it on up to six officials.
Scott, an Essendon supporter and a former in-house lawyer for North Melbourne, said the ACC report, released in February, had stated four times AOD9604 was not prohibited.

''Worse still, the ACC made it clear in the report that the close collaboration between it and ASADA throughout the compilation of the report was the key driver of its outcomes,'' he said.
''One can only wonder whether, in such circumstances, the reason why the ACC report got the status of AOD9604 100 per cent wrong was because their close collaborator ASADA did, too.''
WADA's statement on AOD9604 said it was a ''substance still under pre-clinical and clinical development and has not been approved for therapeutic use by any government health authority in the world''.
However, Scott said the ASADA website still gave the drug a ''clean bill of health''.
''True, it is that ASADA suggests that supplements ought not be checked in this way, but how are athletes supposed to know whether what they are checking on is a supplement or a substance,'' he said.
Essendon's players are being represented by the AFLPA's in-house lawyers, Bernie Shinners and Brett Murphy. David Grace, QC, has also been engaged.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou expects the Bombers to begin briefing the league this week on their internal Zwitkowski report, which will detail the breakdown in governance measures at the club. The report will be made public.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/d ... z2RfL8rtlf

Re: After Essington are punted...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:28 am
by Fred
At least the will get something like a fine and possibly loss if draft picks I'm thinking. The players will be fine ... Mens Rae (spelling ) which means intent would have to be proven if it ever went to court. But shows which clubs are professional and which try to be. For mine essendon decided to walk the line between legal and not legal .. Pushing the boundaries to find an edge therefore they will have to face some consequences ... But they need to reflect what they actually did not some over the top response . In saying that a message has to be sent . AFL have shown with that Richmond player who was caught taking steroids or something to get over an injury that they can be tough when appropriate .