No,1 brand name defeated!

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No.1 sporting brand name - The Panthers, went down to Cronulla at Remonda Stadium. The match was a thriller , the lead changing 3 or 4 times in the final 10mminutes - if it wernt for a dissallowed try it would have been 5 times.
However it was better news for Australi'a's no 3 brand name , with the Dogs winning by 4 - the 1st time in 3 weeks they had'nt won by a lone point.
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number 1 brand in aus
riddled with debt.
12k members
a crowd average of 10979k in 2013
and 11708k in 2014 so far :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

any one have the crowd figure from the game? they crowd numbers don't get published to often now days :-k :(
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Crowd figures for NRL games are always available.
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ParraEelsNRL wrote:
Crowd figures for NRL games are always available.
they just dont get published often, the NRL site stopped showing them, foxsports rarely publish them now days.
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More lies.

I can go to heaps of sites ans get the crowds any time I like.

Do you want last nights crowd seeing as you are having a hard time finding it?
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ParraEelsNRL wrote:
More lies.

I can go to heaps of sites ans get the crowds any time I like.

Do you want last nights crowd seeing as you are having a hard time finding it?
like which sites then?
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adamj1300 wrote:
number 1 brand in aus
riddled with debt.
12k members
a crowd average of 10979k in 2013
and 11708k in 2014 so far :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

any one have the crowd figure from the game? they crowd numbers don't get published to often now days :-k :(
? It has about about $150m . Almost double what your wealthiest club has Adum!
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pussycat wrote:
adamj1300 wrote:
number 1 brand in aus
riddled with debt.
12k members
a crowd average of 10979k in 2013
and 11708k in 2014 so far :(/ :(/ :(/ :(/

any one have the crowd figure from the game? they crowd numbers don't get published to often now days :-k :(
? It has about about $150m . Almost double what your wealthiest club has Adum!
number 1 brand in aus.
the penrith poke group :(/
THE days of the "superclub" are over - with the Panthers Group preparing to sell off some of its clubs to rid itself of $80 million debt and return to its core business of football.

Falling drink and food revenues, poker machine tax, smoking bans and the cost of servicing its debts have been blamed for the perilous financial position of the Panthers Group, also known as Penrith Rugby League Club Ltd.

Under a plan aimed at reducing the debt burden, the board laid the groundwork at its AGM on Thursday to sell off some assets by declaring 12 clubs in the group as "not core property".

The strategy is being driven by the group's chief executive officer, Warren Wilson, who told The Sunday Telegraph he wanted to refocus management back on rugby league and the football community.

The plan involves keeping the Panthers club at Penrith while reviewing the other 12.

Mr Wilson, formally appointed to the top job earlier this month, said the past practice of amalgamating clubs across the state was over and no longer financially viable. The board would consider each of the clubs to determine which ones would be de-amalgamated, he said.

"Limits on amalgamations, the pokies tax, changes to outdoor smoking, the GFC, rising interest rates -- the business conditions have been challenging and, quite simply, the board wants to go back to basics," Mr Wilson said.

"The reason the Penrith Rugby League Club exists is because of rugby league. That's what it was set up for and that's what we are going back to. A few years ago the centre of the wheel was to become this big business but somewhere we lost touch with the community and created a divide between the club and the football club."

Mr Wilson said he would be working with the Penrith Rugby League Football Club as part of the new strategy. The Panthers annual report posted last week said the key reason behind the proposed sale of assets was a $63 million loan that Panthers has to repay by June next year. The loan was part of a deal Panthers had entered with ING in 2007.

A new deal with the Torchlight Group gave Panthers an 18-month extension.

The Panthers Group has also posted losses of $61 million over the past eight years, including $9.5 million last year.

The report said the forecast profitability over the next few years was not enough for all of its debt to be retired.

"The board has concluded whilst the business is asset rich, (it) cannot generate sufficient free cash required to operate the group at its optimum."

Phil Gould reveals how his great mate James Packer helped save the Penrith Panthers
The pathway out of it involved selling off four of the licensed clubs the group owned, even if some had been turning a profit. "We had no choice," Wilson says.

Critically, it also came down to Packer providing a deposit on the debt. How much? Gould describes it as "millions of dollars".

"There is no getting away from the fact that the enormous assistance given to us by James Packer was crucial in our survival," he says. "He didn't have to do that, but we're deeply indebted to him. It's a great show of friendship that he and I share."

Just as the Panthers Group had to sell off its assets to survive, so did the football club in its bid to be competitive.

The financial pressures on one side of Mulgoa Road were felt on the other at Centrebet Stadium, where the football department was unloved and under-resourced.

"Mulgoa Rd may as well have been the Grand Canyon," Wilson says.

That wasn't half of it.
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so still having millions of debt, they still needed old packer to spend his millions, to bail them out,
they are nothing but a debt ridden shit show, with the only revenue being pokes & gaming clubs.
me while
the penrith panthers the rl club is worthless
12k members
10k crowd average
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AFR.

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most valuable sports brands.

Global brand valuation consultancy Brand Finance has compiled a list of the most valuable sports brands.

The most valuable brand in the country comes from the NRL.

Haigh says he was surprised when the Penrith Panthers emerged as the most valuable brand; it came out on top because of the methodology used by Brand Finance in compiling its list.

The Panthers are owned by the big Panthers Leagues Club, which turned over more than any other football-associated entity last year; it had revenue of $145.3 million and $84.8 million of this was from its poker machines.

Haigh suggests that Brand Finance considers revenue from poker machines to have less importance to brand value calculations than revenue from other sources, such as team shirts or branded caps. But the sheer weight of money flowing through the Panthers Group pushes it to the top of the list.
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Which has more credibility.
BRW,
Or
The Daily Terrorgraph..

Only a dumb dumb dumb person ...Hi Adumblair would choose the DT.
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ParraEelsNRL wrote:
More lies.

I can go to heaps of sites ans get the crowds any time I like.

Do you want last nights crowd seeing as you are having a hard time finding it?
Well he is a filthy fucking liar .. so why would anyone be surprised
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If the panthers are the number 1 brand in Aus where the hell are their supporters?
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if you read that article you would have also seen the pies were the only team given a triple A rating - given their strong financial position and not being so reliant on pokie revenue - e.g., merchansiding and membership around 20 mil i think
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Why does the number one brand only pull between 8 - 10k crowd and only has 8k members - is it the football club or their leagues club that is the number 1 brand - if is the football club then why does it fall down in EVERY category!!!
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Swans4ever wrote:
Why does the number one brand only pull between 8 - 10k crowd and only has 8k members - is it the football club or their leagues club that is the number 1 brand - if is the football club then why does it fall down in EVERY category!!!
go figure there was another report done a few years back, as well as another one for 2011, that is far more accurate, it includes all of the crowds, membership, sponsorship factors.

After a little research, I uncovered a top 10 “Sporting brands” in Australia from an article published in the Sun-Herald (Sydney Morning Herald) in August 2010. No surprises for guessing top spot:

Collingwood Magpies (AFL)- $263m ($AUD)
Geelong Cats (AFL)- $238m
Essendon Bombers (AFL)- $184m
Carlton Blues (AFL)- $170m
Brisbane Broncos (NRL) $169m
Hawthorn Hawks (AFL)- $168m
West Coast Eagles (AFL)-$162m
St Kilda Saints (AFL)- $157m
Fremantle Dockers (AFL)-$144m
Parramatta Eels (NRL)- $141m
That was in 2010. A year later the Magpies were valued at $344 million. What I therefore interpret from this list is that a) they are fickle and constantly subject to change, and b) winning the premiership boosts value significantly. On the above list, the reigning premiers Geelong are ranked (somewhat) closely behind Collingwood. The following year, the new reigning premiers, Collingwood, surged ahead. This would likely make the above statistics on Australian sport very redundant. But nonetheless it provides some indication as to the landscape of Australian sports clubs value.
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