TLPG liar extraordinaire
You should thank me for publishing your IP
and I never published any actual IP. That's it.
I was a mod at the time .
Xman wrote
I also gave them to TLPG believing he was still a mod.I admit I made a mistake.
Again with the same ol same ol - and AFLCRAPPER has the hide to call AFL posters liars - post a link then CRAPPER not what you heard it from someone post proof or be branded a liar!!!! The only club that has been caught fudging - GOLD COAST TITANS - NRL!!!!!
LARGEST MEMBERSHIP, LARGEST PROFIT, LARGEST HOME CROWD AVERAGE - THE BIGGEST CLUB IN SYDNEY - THE SYDNEY SWANS
The shaded area is the grand stand where members sit. Have you got proof this was during the main game?
i asked crapper last time, what game was it? he couldn't tell me. so told him it was probably a practice game, and i got called a liar
You got caught out because there has NOT BEEN a practise game HELD THERE.
TLPG liar extraordinaire
You should thank me for publishing your IP
and I never published any actual IP. That's it.
I was a mod at the time .
Xman wrote
I also gave them to TLPG believing he was still a mod.I admit I made a mistake.
Get over yourself, you might run bf but you aint the mod here.
I have my opinion and I'l fuckingwell express it.
GWS crowds are bullshit.
Deal with it.
Any non biased nonce can see it.
I never claimed to run bigfooty. I never said you couldnt express an opinion. I asked for proof, the same as you have on any number of occasions. its not my fault you cant back up anything you say. hear that sound? thats the sound of no links being found.
Don't need a link because my farking peepers are working fine.
Have a look at the pics for crying out loud
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Love the deflection in this thread. An awful, horrendous heartland crowd from an established club: quick, claim the 3 yera old expansion market club is fudging figures!
Let's for the sake or argument say that GWS got a crowd of 1,000. So what? Doesn't change the fact that a heartland nRL club got 6k to a game. What a hilarious disgrace of a crowd. Think of the biggest basket case clubs in AFL heartland, in their lowest days, in the worst weather imaginable in the worst time slot imaginable, they would never, EVER get a crowd below 10k in a heartland market. Not Port, not Melbourne, not North or the Bulldogs. The last team in the AFL to get less than 10k to a heartland match was Fitzroy, and we all know what happened to them....
01 .SL stuffed us up completely and we haven't recovered .
. Mergers put people off, merged teams don't represent their region, merged teams are too powerful .
. Dropping South Sydney put people off and put more off by coming back.
. Dropping the expansion teams kill any chance of becoming national .
. Dropping the other teams didn't matter because they weren't that popular anyway .
02 .We play to our "heartlands" .............. our heartlands are in the bush,
. These people don't get the chance to go to many games as ch9 chop and change times and generally play god.
. Ch 9 and Foxtel shedule NRL games on short notice unlike the AFL that lock the shedule all games in October.
. Ch 9 cannot see past televising the Broncos.
. Our heartlands seem to be getting smaller all the time .
. We're stuck in suburban times .
03. Sydney people are doing it tough and just can't afford to go -
. Mortage prices , fuel prices , public transport prices , battery prices for their remote control .
. $30 general entry, I was drinking UDL's at $9 per can
04. It's a television game.
. The game was on Fox or FTA so the fans were at home .
. There was a lot of sport on TV. ........golf , tennis , lawn bowls , motorsports , bowling , darts , WWWWE
. There were good shows on TV ... Bloke's World, Iron Chef, Bert's big brother idol lost on celebrity dancing MKR survivor.
05 . It's a ratings game -
. Ratings are much more important than crowds.
. Couch potatoes count as real interested viewers .
. You have to count the regional and city figures even though they overlap .
. You have to count New Zealand figures even though it's not officially a state of Australia yet .
. The ratings were down so I guess a lot of people went out to clubs and pubs to watch it .
. The report is not valid because it only shows interest not real support like ratings where the person gets off his butt and
. ............ sorry where the person changes the channel on the remote .
06.The game is popular but the team isn't
. Either that popular crowd drawing team is down OR that unpopular drawing team is dominating .
. It was an away game for that popular crowd drawing team so they couldn't use their memberships .
07 .It's the Sydney transport system
. Public transport is unpopular or it's too crowded because it's popular .
. You cannot expect people to go to the SFS just because people go to see the Swans at the SCG nextdoor .
08. It's the weather
. Too hot, too cold, too wet or perfect for doing something else.
. Perfect for going to a Taylor Swift concert next door.
. You cannot expect people to go in weather like that even though there's room in the stadia because nobody goes .
09 It's the Time or Day of the Week .
. It was unsuitable to have a game on at the afternoon, twilight or night time or anytime really .
. It was unsuitable to have a game on Monday ,Friday , Saturday, Sunday or mid week .
10. It's the media
. Too little media , the unfair media ,the negative RL media , too much AFL media
. Our supporters can't read the media (nice pictures though)
. It's war ,according to the Telegraph ,an invasion ,even though football was here before RL ..
11. It's the ground.
. It was at Campbeltown, Gosford, Canberra, Cronulla .......
12. It's the lack of development by the NRL ,ARL , NSWRL and BRL.... and
. we're facing development from AFL , FFA and Netball .
. NZRL is sponging off Australia and Australia is raping the NZRL
. S14 RU is stealing all our players
. AFL is stealing our players
. FFA will be stealing our players as soon as they expand .
13. It's the lack of blockbusters .
. Sheduled against us was an another big game of ..... RU, AFL, AL, NBL, ANL, WNBL.......
. We sheduled a game against another big game of .....RU, AFL, AL, NBL, ANL, WNBL......
. The upcoming Olympics (summer or winter) is grabbing everybody's attention
. The recent WC (FIFA, RU, Hockey, Basketball, Baseball, Cricket, Gridiron) is grabbing everybody's attention
. The recent RL WC is not grabbing everybody's attention - blame the AFL for one Australia Vs Ireland IR test
. Even the AFL International Cup is grabbing attention.
14. The government won't finance new stadiums , but when they do the crowds will be enormous.
. As long as all people are able sit close to the sidelines
. As long as the ends aren't too far from the action
. Now that our stadiums are built they are too big and look empty deterring more people
. Homebush & SFS - small crowds are a visual embarrassment
. Docklands - state of the art boutique stadium not used as too costly (low crowds)
. Melbourne Rectangular Stadium - Now RL is behind RU as well as AL and AFL.
. Perth, Gosford, Lang Park - new stadiums - no effect.
. Canberra ,Cronulla, Brookvale, Kogarah, Paramatta, Campbelltown, Penrith, Wollongong upgrades - no effect.
. Newcastle upgrade on the way when the club is looking at downsizing .
15. When they gonna have double headers , triple headers ...we can then claim the one crowd for each game !
16 . We don't have -
. A centrally located "home of football" like the AFL because we chose to waste money at the SFS next to the Swans..
. A centre of sporting excellence like the GWS willl have at Blacktown.
. The AFL's draft , management , development , clout , and aggressive approach to expansion ..
. $1.2 billion in TV rights.
. A decent game , (but that's the least of our worries)
, People wanting to play our game with more wanting to play AFL than RL in NSW in the last 5 years .
. People wanting to attend our games.
17. We do have
. Financially stricken rl clubs (all bar one) awaiting handouts.
. Financially stricken rl clubs unable to pay their CEO.
. Financially stricken rl clubs unable to attract sponsors or hold the one's they had due to misbehaviour.
. Financially stricken leagues clubs unable to support NRL clubs ,
. A new pokie tax that is gonna kill off the leagues clubs .
. A geographically centred stadium at Homebush suited to AFL blockbusters and the GWS .
. A new stadium built at Blacktown for AFL , because the NRL wasn't interested .
. Players wanting to leave their NRL contracts to play AFL .
18. When looking at NRL crowd averages
. You cannot look at Sydney in isolation - because they are pathetically low .
. You cannot look at Melbourne because they have no history there and because they are pathetically low .
. You cannot look at this point in time because historically crowds dip this time of year .
. You cannot look at the crowd on TV because the crowd looked and felt a lot smaller than the official low figure .
. You overlook that 25% of all rounds affected by SOO with the best 34 players either unavailable or backing up after SOO.
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because the focus is on SOO .
. You can look at past pathetically low crowd figures because that shows the present in a good light .
. You can look at present low crowd figures because they're good against the old inflated figures.
19. When looking at NRL crowds in general.
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they are inflated because "they all do it" (just ask the Storm)
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because clubs are paid $100k to play to empty stadiums .
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies from passport holding Pacific Islanders.
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies from Moms , nans , nurses and carers .
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they contain freebies for Warriors gear, doing a haka or singing an anthem.
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because they include players, officials, coaching, medical, fitness, trainers, boot studders, waterboys, catering, security, sales staff, turnstile staff, magazine sellers, cheergirls and people wandering into the ground lost .(you know most of the crowd )..
. You cannot look at NRL crowds because more people turned up to see Russel Crowe than to see South Sydney .
20. We cannot look at specific crowd attendances
. Because "8588 is a really inmpressive figure".
. Because the crowd looked and felt a lot bigger than the official low figure.
21. You cannot look specifically at SOO crowds
. Because they contain a lot of freebies .
. Tickets still are expensive...spending $100 in Sydney to watch footie is way too much
. Spending $50 for the nose bleed section is way too much
. It is a big week in sport for Sydney so going to the game isn't part of it.
. The game is just too good to watch on TV
, Because the same same two teams play each other, then each other, then each other, every year after year after year.
22. Canberra is under performing
. Because now it supports two clubs .
. Both those clubs cannot find a sponsor.
. The sponsors have all gone to the new AFL club GWS.
. It's all a bluff because Canberra are renegotiating their stadium deal.
23. It's a bluff because "the AFL want some publicity".
24. It's basically because rl is dying - but that is another list !!!
I honestly think that this means that the Magpies half of the merger is dead. West Tigers should abandon Leumeah and play all their games at Leichardt, or ANZ depending on the opponent.
It seems WT are dead.
Absolutely not. If there are any supporters I respect aside from my own, it's Balmain's. Any threat to their existence will cause an avalanche similar to that of Footscray back in 1990.
I honestly think that this means that the Magpies half of the merger is dead. West Tigers should abandon Leumeah and play all their games at Leichardt, or ANZ depending on the opponent.
It seems WT are dead.
Absolutely not. If there are any supporters I respect aside from my own, it's Balmain's. Any threat to their existence will cause an avalanche similar to that of Footscray back in 1990.
Where are they then? 6k is appalling
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.