And to the club because it needs a nationwide fan base to survive long term. A club that relies 100 percent on a local fan base is a club that is doomed to failure. This applies to both AFL and NRL.
A club needs mostly home crowd support to survive - it's that simple.
A club is doomed to failure if it doesn't get home crowds.
Of course it's not the sole factor but the overwhelming factor.
Fair dinkum, it's taken over a decade but I have finally stumbled across something I agree with peepers with.
Wow.
hes making waaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much sense
has someone hacked his account !!
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
If anyone is interested in long term survival, away crowds are more important than you think.
how ?
a club doesn't get a red cent out of an away crowd >
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million
Yes it does. It's called memberships in other locations. Giants supporters in Melbourne for example. Are you saying that isn't important?
Interstate supporters, like giants supporters in Melbourne, would make up a very small proportion of their crowds and revenue.
Westcoast will play in front of a small away crowd today. It will have no bearing on the eagles level of support and be purely due to the home teams small size. If they played Collingwood today the crowd would be double the size or more.
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
On the contrary, there will be Melbourne based Eagles supporters in attendance. That is very much an indication of support that should not be cast aside just because it's not in Perth. The AFL clubs are all about the nationwide acquisition of memberships. This is why away crowds are of prime interest.
On the contrary, there will be Melbourne based Eagles supporters in attendance. That is very much an indication of support that should not be cast aside just because it's not in Perth. The AFL clubs are all about the nationwide acquisition of memberships. This is why away crowds are of prime interest.
So how do you account for these supporters when the crowd today is 20k and the crowd against Collingwood is 60k?
King-Eliagh: ...I believe [RL] is popular in all the other states and territories, bar tasmania.
There would have been Eagles supporters at the game. There were certainly Collingwood supporters at ANZ. But according to you they don't count towards those clubs. They count only towards Melbourne and Sydney respectively. I disagree with this tactic.
Yes it does. It's called memberships in other locations. Giants supporters in Melbourne for example. Are you saying that isn't important?
In a national competition like the AFL the subject of away crowd is important. Important in that clubs cannot rely of them.
All AFL clubs have to be strong enough to exist on their home crowds.
You cannot expect too many people to travel interstate.
But you can expect fans of said club who live in that away location to attend the game - just like I do when Canterbury play Melbourne at AAMI Park, and like I did when Canterbury played Canberra at Bruce Stadium. No AFL clubs can exist on their home crowds alone. That's what killed Fitzroy and would have killed South Melbourne if they hadn't been moved to Sydney. It's why clubs seek fans in other states. North Melbourne have been active in this regard. Collingwood have always been strong in this regard.
Without away fans, a national club is doomed to fail. This applies equally for the NRL as it does for the AFL.
A club's expense account goes well beyond "the rent".
Put it this way. There are a limited number of people in a given location, and not all of them are going to take out memberships. Melbourne has a population of maybe 4 million. Let's round it off to there. There are nine Melbourne based clubs, for a potential membership on paper of about 440,000 each. Now of course such a number would include a large percentage who are just not interested in Aussie Rules, even in Melbourne. In Melbourne I would be looking at something like 20 percent would follow Aussie Rules. Not all would actually take out a membership and we are already well below 100,000. Collingwood has something like 70,000 I believe - and note this. A percentage of said members do not reside in Victoria. But according to you in effect, those members don't matter and are not important. They are because those memberships "pay the rent" (as you put it). This is how clubs that struggle to gain memberships have to get their membership numbers up - look to other locations for support. Hence the importance of away crowds.
Have I explained the concept to your satisfaction now?
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