TRUE REALITY FOR RL FOLLOWERS

[Swans4ever]

We have heard a lot from RL people on this site predicting the NRL eclipsing the AFL in 5 years well let's see what their up against;

Year. Profit. Op Surplus Total revenue
2002 8.8 (8.8). 110. 159.
2003 4.7 (13.5). 118. 170.
2004 1.7 (15.2). 124. 186
2005 6.6 (21.8). 130. 203
2006 5.8 (27.6). 140. 215
2007 26.3 (53.9). 202. 284
2008 19 (72.9). 207. 302
2009 3.4 (76.3) 213. 303
2010 10.6 (86.9). 230. 335
2011 -23.6 (63.3). 234. 343
2012 6.7 (80 mil). 296. 425

There you have it 80 mil in the bank after 10 years 2 new clubs paid for by the AFL, developing the game etc etc and yet there's still a lot more in the bank

Futures fund 89.4 Mil. This is NOT included in the surpluses above but a separate money put away from their operating surplus, total revenue has increased from 159 mil to 425 mil in ten years, Operating surpluses have risen from 110 mil to 296.

https://secure.ausport.gov.au/clearingh ... n_football

Over to you RD, AFLCRAPPER, KE. Pussycat, Eels, Have the guts to post the NRL profits, revenues and operating surpluses over the last 10 yrs - over to you!

[AFLcrap1]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

[Raiderdave]

from 159 mil to 425 mil in ten years,



Over to you RD, AFLCRAPPER, KE. Pussycat, Eels,

159 to 425 in ten years eh

the NRL went from 178... to 314


in ONE year !!

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wow
you continue to post things that help ...............OUR argument :_<> :_<> :_<>

you appear to have gotten
dumber

whilst away getting your yr 10 certificate

[Xman]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

don't you think the primary reason the NRL had a financial turnaround last year is because they just began a new TV rights agreement? Other than this obvious increase in revenue their ratings and crowds went down. Not sure I'd be celebrating your new management just yet.

As for swans comments, they were in response to claims by NRL supporters that the NRL are better off because theyve had a year where they saved 50m. Swans merely showed the AFL have been pocketing similar windfalls for a decade, despite aggressive expansion

[Raiderdave]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

don't you think the primary reason the NRL had a financial turnaround last year is because they just began a new TV rights agreement? Other than this obvious increase in revenue their ratings and crowds went down. Not sure I'd be celebrating your new management just yet.

As for swans comments, they were in response to claims by NRL supporters that the NRL are better off because theyve had a year where they saved 50m. Swans merely showed the AFL have been pocketing similar windfalls for a decade, despite aggressive expansion

and VFLcrap is trying to show you thick as pig shit fumblers
how we were hampered
why we were hampered

& now we're not

look the fuck out !!

[Swans4ever]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

So I take it you don't have the guts
Let me get you started
2013
Total revenue 314 mil
Total operating surplus ?
Total operating profit 49.4 mil

Look I'm not knocking the NRL it's good for them and Australia in General - but all I'm saying is don't get ahead of yourself - The AFL has had 10 years with substantial growth - 5 years is far too short a time to change their positions yet you RL followers accept without question - while accusing the AFL followers of doing the same with AD! You tell us how wonderful Smith is yet he didn't negotiate the TV rights and hasn't really done anything! Needed to be said!

[Xman]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

don't you think the primary reason the NRL had a financial turnaround last year is because they just began a new TV rights agreement? Other than this obvious increase in revenue their ratings and crowds went down. Not sure I'd be celebrating your new management just yet.

As for swans comments, they were in response to claims by NRL supporters that the NRL are better off because theyve had a year where they saved 50m. Swans merely showed the AFL have been pocketing similar windfalls for a decade, despite aggressive expansion

and VFLcrap is trying to show you thick as pig shit fumblers
how we were hampered
why we were hampered

& now we're not

look the fuck out !!

Why were you hampered? Hmm, poor crowds, few members, low sponsorship, no national footprint.....

[Raiderdave]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

don't you think the primary reason the NRL had a financial turnaround last year is because they just began a new TV rights agreement? Other than this obvious increase in revenue their ratings and crowds went down. Not sure I'd be celebrating your new management just yet.

As for swans comments, they were in response to claims by NRL supporters that the NRL are better off because theyve had a year where they saved 50m. Swans merely showed the AFL have been pocketing similar windfalls for a decade, despite aggressive expansion

and VFLcrap is trying to show you thick as pig shit fumblers
how we were hampered
why we were hampered

& now we're not

look the fuck out !!

Why were you hampered?...

oh I dunno
just a little thing ..... a civil war infact


like I said folks
pig shit has more of an idea then fumblers :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

[Xman]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

don't you think the primary reason the NRL had a financial turnaround last year is because they just began a new TV rights agreement? Other than this obvious increase in revenue their ratings and crowds went down. Not sure I'd be celebrating your new management just yet.

As for swans comments, they were in response to claims by NRL supporters that the NRL are better off because theyve had a year where they saved 50m. Swans merely showed the AFL have been pocketing similar windfalls for a decade, despite aggressive expansion

and VFLcrap is trying to show you thick as pig shit fumblers
how we were hampered
why we were hampered

& now we're not

look the fuck out !!

Why were you hampered?...

oh I dunno
just a little thing ..... a civil war infact


like I said folks
pig shit has more of an idea then fumblers :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

The fact. RL in Australia was in this position is who's fault? Amateur hour comes to mind.

[Raiderdave]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

don't you think the primary reason the NRL had a financial turnaround last year is because they just began a new TV rights agreement? Other than this obvious increase in revenue their ratings and crowds went down. Not sure I'd be celebrating your new management just yet.

As for swans comments, they were in response to claims by NRL supporters that the NRL are better off because theyve had a year where they saved 50m. Swans merely showed the AFL have been pocketing similar windfalls for a decade, despite aggressive expansion

and VFLcrap is trying to show you thick as pig shit fumblers
how we were hampered
why we were hampered

& now we're not

look the fuck out !!

Why were you hampered?...

oh I dunno
just a little thing ..... a civil war infact


like I said folks
pig shit has more of an idea then fumblers :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

The fact. RL in Australia was in this position is who's fault? Amateur hour comes to mind.

what has that got to do with what occurred.. not damaging our game & setting it back
that being the point twat

it did happen
it did hurt us
it did hamper our progress for the following 15 years

the fact News Ltd couldn't be bothered with a sport that has massive limitations like VFL & chose our game is another pointer to which sport will inevitably win the code wars
we're seeing RL's hyper progress after just one year of no news ltd
be afraid fumblers

be very afraid

[AFLcrap1]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

So I take it you don't have the guts
Let me get you started
2013
Total revenue 314 mil
Total operating surplus ?
Total operating profit 49.4 mil

Look I'm not knocking the NRL it's good for them and Australia in General - but all I'm saying is don't get ahead of yourself - The AFL has had 10 years with substantial growth - 5 years is far too short a time to change their positions yet you RL followers accept without question - while accusing the AFL followers of doing the same with AD! You tell us how wonderful Smith is yet he didn't negotiate the TV rights and hasn't really done anything! Needed to be said!

You are too stupid to talk to ..
Ianswered your question then say I don't have the guts ..

There is no comparison in the last 10 yrs ..& I explained why ,but that went over your head..

[NRLCrap1]

Dave you are a fair dinkum GOOSE!! News Limited bothered with your game because they were able to control it! You don't think they would have opted for AFL if they could have controlled that? You bet they would have opted for it first!! The AFL has higher revenue and it's going to stay that way!

[Swans4ever]

Fuck me dead you are thick ..
RL fans will be the 1st to tell you how badly we were run
How we were raped for 15 yrs by NEWS LTD.
How we were undersold.
Everyone wanted News out of the game .
Gallop had NO future plans for anything..
He was a news Ltd puppet.

So why would we be looking at anything in the last 10 yrs..

What we are looking at Is how things how turned around.
News Ltd gone.
IC formed .
Smart business people running the show.
A strategic plan .

With that in place we are very happy with the way things have turned around ...just in 1 yr..
So we are very confident about the future.

So I take it you don't have the guts
Let me get you started
2013
Total revenue 314 mil
Total operating surplus ?
Total operating profit 49.4 mil

Look I'm not knocking the NRL it's good for them and Australia in General - but all I'm saying is don't get ahead of yourself - The AFL has had 10 years with substantial growth - 5 years is far too short a time to change their positions yet you RL followers accept without question - while accusing the AFL followers of doing the same with AD! You tell us how wonderful Smith is yet he didn't negotiate the TV rights and hasn't really done anything! Needed to be said!

You are too stupid to talk to ..
Ianswered your question then say I don't have the guts ..

There is no comparison in the last 10 yrs ..& I explained why ,but that went over your head..

Ok you won't answer the question - well how about this projected AFL income for 2013 is 450 mil NRL 2013 income 330 mil - that's 120 mil more. That was easy now wasn't it! Still a LOOOOONG way to go!

[Cracker]

But, Swans, if the AFL crowd average drops below 30,000 that income will fall. And if the NRL can tap directly into the ongoing advertising revenue, 120 million is attainable.

2013 was the first full season that the NRL didn't have the News Limited monkey on it's back, and the jump in revenue was part of the result. 2014 may not see a further jump, but once the Brisbane Bombers and the Perth side are in the jump will not be small.

[Swans4ever]

But, Swans, if the AFL crowd average drops below 30,000 that income will fall. And if the NRL can tap directly into the ongoing advertising revenue, 120 million is attainable.

2013 was the first full season that the NRL didn't have the News Limited monkey on it's back, and the jump in revenue was part of the result. 2014 may not see a further jump, but once the Brisbane Bombers and the Perth side are in the jump will not be small.

Look don't get me wrong due to polarisation on this site and constant put downs by RL followers about AF - my position is I like and watch RL - however IMO to go from 15k average to 35k is almost a quantum leap in 5 years - maybe 10 - 15 yrs is achievable but not 5, and to say this will happen at the expense of AF is also laughable - Following the Swans doesn't stop me following the Storm and going to both games - that's the reality of the matter. But if we believe RD AFLCRAPPER and KE this precisely what they suggest - it's absurd! That's why I argue with them because their logic is just plain wrong - and if you do disagree then then abuse hence my recent stance.