AFL clubs talk up community leadership while fostering pokie

[NRLCrap1]

wow

it would appear all VFL clubs would disappear up their own arseholes .. if it weren't for poker machine revenue

I wonder how that sits with all those fumblers who claim its immoral & unethical for sports franchises to rely on the misery of gambling addicts to operate
they waved their figures & lectured us on this

we're community based member driven clubs & they provide all we need
oh my
now that appears to be nothing but verbal farts from the most hypocritical sport on the planet & its even more hypocritical fans

for shame
for shame

And how long have the Sydney clubs been relying on such revenue? A lot longer than the AFL clubs have!!

Hypocrite alert!

[AFLcrap1]

AFL clubs claim rent for pokies venues, new signage as "community benefits"

Grant Baker and Eliza Sewell
Herald Sun
December 19, 2013 7:00PM


THE cost of running a pokies venue continues to be claimed as a community benefit by AFL clubs.

Pokie clubs operated by AFL teams must use a minimum of 8.3 per cent of their revenue to benefit the community to receive a tax break.

Monash University gambling expert Dr Charles Livingstone said the definition of "community benefit'' was too broad and some clubs claimed football-related expenses.

"How community purposes are defined is so loose that you could drive several thousand trucks through it," Livingstone said.

"It includes things like operating costs, wage bill, electricity, insurance.

"It's very, very easy for clubs (poker machine venues) to claim that 8.33 per cent without actually giving anything to a genuine community group.

"In the case of AFL clubs … it often includes the cost of running the social club and rebuilding bits and pieces."

The biggest "community benefit" across all clubs was the operating cost of venues, for example $870,000 for rent, wages and running costs at Collingwood's The Coach and Horses in Ringwood.

All four of Carlton's pokie venues claimed the cost of maintaining Visy Park, the Blues' home base, as a community benefit.

Of the nine Victorian clubs with pokies, the Western Bulldogs were the only club to spend any of its community benefit money on the prevention and treatment of problem gambling.

Collingwood nominated a gift that relates to "sausages given to Auskick for their fundraising activities" but also sponsored the Caroline Springs Football Club.

Essendon claimed $308,00 for maintenance of Windy Hill oval "for use by the community". The Bombers also claimed pay TV and discounted meals for members and visitors to its community club.

Geelong claimed costs relating to "football training", the installation of LED signage, construction of a corporate function room and interest and principal repayments on a refurbishment loan.

The Cats donated $20,000 to the Headspace youth mental health program.

Not-for-profit clubs pay 8.33 per cent less tax on pokies profits compared with pubs.

Dr Livingstone said clubs could take steps to help the community and minimise potential damage to punters.

"I think the best thing the AFL clubs could do would be, not necessarily to get out of pokies but to implement some reasonable harm minimisation measures such as $1 bets," he said.

"The impact on their revenue of using $1 bets would be modest - but it would be a magnificent demonstration of how easy it is to implement social reform and demonstrate that they were actually interested in the wellbeing of people."

WHAT A FUCKING HYPOCRITE - AND HE ACCUSES AFL FANS OF BEING LIARS! TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND WHEN YOU BUILT YOUR WHOLE COMPETITION ON POKIES - A BIG HYPOCRITE!

Wow You posting in capitals. did you learn that at the GYM?
How stupid & I mean brain dead on life support stupid are you?

I am showing you braindeads the hypocrisy of those in AFL land.
For years ,we have had the moral ramblings of AFL media & fans about RL clubs relying on pokies.
I show you that the AFL does just the same ,& you go off on rant .
If the NRL clubs are going to have the finger pointed at them ,then don't whinge & bitch when someone points out the fumblers do the same.
I don't agree with any pokies ,but it wont change in a hurry.

Don't shoot the messenger bud..
& I wonder why they don't mention the pokies in the northern clubs.

[Fred]

I think AFL people just don't care as much about it as maybe you do acrap. It's just a game of sport ... I'm not sure why the passionate hate if all things AFL but all power to you my friend . Just remember, hate will only eat you up and spit you out ... When you're more passionate about hating something than those you're preaching to you're really only getting yourself all worked up over something they don't care about as much as you. Merry Christmas man and hopefully you get to move on.

[AFLcrap1]

I am not eaten up by anything.
I just love to show the hypocrisy of those in the AFL bubble.

My sport is RL ,& since I can remember it has been trashed by the media(moreso when news Ltd was involved),
Any tiny discrepancy (off field) was a blazing headline
The AFL with the lapdog media in VIC have had a lot of negative press squashed.
But as is being seen now the dirty laundry is being exposed.

The trouble with a compliant media is the fans lap it up & take the moral high ground.

This pokie issue is just one
For yrs RL was bashed in the media about pokies
Now it happens in AFL fans get upset when you show the double standards.

I don't get too upset..
I love the reaction when the fanboys cant accept some home truths

They cannot believe it when you tell the a few home truths.

[Raiderdave]

wow

it would appear all VFL clubs would disappear up their own arseholes .. if it weren't for poker machine revenue

I wonder how that sits with all those fumblers who claim its immoral & unethical for sports franchises to rely on the misery of gambling addicts to operate
they waved their figures & lectured us on this

we're community based member driven clubs & they provide all we need
oh my
now that appears to be nothing but verbal farts from the most hypocritical sport on the planet & its even more hypocritical fans

for shame
for shame

And how long have the Sydney clubs been relying on such revenue? A lot longer than the AFL clubs have!!

Hypocrite alert!

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the point ... look it up on google you twat
who said NRL clubs don't rely on it

but once again for our halfwit wannabe fumblers

we don't pretend to be bastions of morality
we lecture others on their use of this form of revenue raising

we aren't ..... deadshit hypocrites
like the VFL

[Raiderdave]

I think AFL people just don't care as much about it as maybe you do acrap. It's just a game of sport ... I'm not sure why the passionate hate if all things AFL but all power to you my friend . Just remember, hate will only eat you up and spit you out ... When you're more passionate about hating something than those you're preaching to you're really only getting yourself all worked up over something they don't care about as much as you. Merry Christmas man and hopefully you get to move on.

spoken like a true little zealot cultist with his head jammed fairly up his date ... too brain washed & stupid to see anything at all let alone anything wrong with his sleazy slimy sport :_<> :_<> :_<> :_<>

[Fred]

Collingwood don't rely on pokies. They earn a decent quid but it is just one revenue stream. They get as much from membership I think and merchandise .

[Fred]

Yeah, I can see you've been hurt pretty bad in the past and felt unduly treated. If I felt that way I would be mad too.

[Raiderdave]

Collingwood don't rely on pokies. They earn a decent quid but it is just one revenue stream. They get as much from membership I think and merchandise .

oh
a quick look at their financial results from 2013 say different

overall turnover of about 75 Million
gaming revenue within this figure of about 20 million
overall profit of 5 million this year

no pokies
a loss of about 15 million


but yeah
they don't need the pokies eh

fuck me
this lot just get dumber ... & dumber :_<> :_<> :_<>

[Raiderdave]

Yeah, I can see you've been hurt pretty bad in the past and felt unduly treated. If I felt that way I would be mad too.

heres a tip for 2014

when replying
reply to a specific post .... so we know what the fuck you're talking about &... who the fuck you're talking to
you dribbling halfwit

K ?

[NRLCrap1]

Take your own advice, Dave. NRL clubs in Sydney are bastions of the community, and rely on pokie revenue. And have done for a lot longer. So don't call the AFL clubs on it when the NRL clubs are even more hyporcritical because they've been doing it for longer!

Fricking goose.

[NRLCrap1]

wow

it would appear all VFL clubs would disappear up their own arseholes .. if it weren't for poker machine revenue

I wonder how that sits with all those fumblers who claim its immoral & unethical for sports franchises to rely on the misery of gambling addicts to operate
they waved their figures & lectured us on this

we're community based member driven clubs & they provide all we need
oh my
now that appears to be nothing but verbal farts from the most hypocritical sport on the planet & its even more hypocritical fans

for shame
for shame

And how long have the Sydney clubs been relying on such revenue? A lot longer than the AFL clubs have!!

Hypocrite alert!

:_<> :_<>

the point ... look it up on google you twat
who said NRL clubs don't rely on it

but once again for our halfwit wannabe fumblers

we don't pretend to be bastions of morality
we lecture others on their use of this form of revenue raising

we aren't ..... deadshit hypocrites
like the VFL

Yes you are. The NRL do preach morality, and when the pokies were threatened by Canberra who jumped up and squealed blue murder first and loudest? The fricking NRL clubs!!