Freo ripped off

Post by **Beaussie** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:20 pm

Didn't catch the game on tele but it appears from media reports that Freo was up by 1pt when the siren sounded. The controlling umpire failed to hear the siren and let play continue for another 30 seconds and Baker kicked a behind for the Saints to level the scores.

I'd be very pissed off if I was a Freo supporter today. Why not keep the siren going until the stupid umps actually hear it. Or is this just a probelm in Tassie with a soft sounding siren?

I wonder what this means for footy fans who backed the Dockers at the TAB. Hmmm.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:28 pm

TAB are paying out a draw.
Umpire was a discrace.
Freo played better.
G-Train is Skitz.

Grim Reaper · Post by **Grim Reaper** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:41 pm

Time to help out the Freo folks to find the name of this umpire and where he lives!

Willis 21 · Post by **Willis 21** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:37 pm

I actually watched the last couple of minutes of this game waiting for the NRL to start.....

What a absolute farce for an alledged "professional " sport ...

I believe that time had expired but it was not heard and the umpires decided on a ball up...

There was probably a further 10 seconds elapsed before St Kilda kicked a behind... then they got another shot as there was a foul after the kick!!!

Why couldn't the time keepers have gotten word that time had elapsed to the umpires??

What happens if this costs Freo a spot in the Top 8, or decides an important position in the 8 for ST Kilda??

You would expect better from the local U/10's...

Post by **Beaussie** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:51 pm

Willis 21 wrote:
I believe that time had expired but it was not heard and the umpires decided on a ball up...

There was probably a further 10 seconds elapsed before St Kilda kicked a behind... then they got another shot as there was a foul after the kick!!!

Why couldn't the time keepers have gotten word that time had elapsed to the umpires??

What happens if this costs Freo a spot in the Top 8, or decides an important position in the 8 for ST Kilda??

You would expect better from the local U/10's...

It seems the AFL has launced a official investigation into the result of the game.

Despite being told by the Freo players that the siren had sound, the ump continued with the bounce and then the whole free kick fiasco for Baker.

Absolutely pathetic. Hopefully Freo is rightfully awarded the 4pts.

There is it appears a precedent for overturning the result of a match. Keep those TAB tickets is all I can suggest.

League launches probe
8:03:26 PM Sun 30 April, 2006
Paul Gough
http://AFL.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&s ... eid=261793

The AFL has launched an official investigation into the controversial finish to the St Kilda-Fremantle clash in Launceston on Sunday.

The league refused to be drawn on Sunday night into whether the official result - a draw - would stand after St Kilda kicked a behind through Steven Baker after the umpires failed to hear the final siren with the Dockers one point in front.

Fremantle launched an official protest after the game after coach Chris Connolly and chief executive Cameron Schwab stated their team should have won the game given they were leading when time officially elapsed.

However no decision on the final outcome of the match is expected now until Monday at the earliest.

"The AFL is conducting an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the end of the match in Launceston between St Kilda and Fremantle, following a complaint received by the Fremantle Football Club after the match," AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said in a released statement from the league on Sunday night.

The AFL refused to discuss any of the details of the controversial finish, following a meeting between league heavyweights on Sunday night, only adding to its statement that 'there will be no further update from the AFL this evening'.

The drama unfolded when the siren - which was quiet throughout the course of the match - was not heard by field umpire Matthew Nicholls with the Saints trailing by one point but deep in attack.

The Dockers players heard the siren with Byron Schammer clearly seen telling the umpire the siren had sounded and that Fremantle had won the game as the umpire prepared to re-start play, having called for a bounce.

Play then continued for about 15 seconds as Fremantle players surrounded the umpires telling them the game was over.

As play continued the Saints then won the clearance with the ball ending in the hands of Baker, whose shot at goal missed but levelled the scores.

Incredibly as chaos ensued with Fremantle coach Connolly and key officials already on the ground protesting, Baker was offered another kick having been bumped illegally after his shot at goal.

His initial behind was cancelled, with the Dockers thinking they had been awarded the match as a result, but Baker had another shot and missed again with the game being declared a draw at 94 points apiece, denying the Dockers what would have been their first ever win in Tasmania.

Under AFL rules a game or a quarter is not declared over until the umpire has heard the siren and signalled the end of the game or quarter.

In the past this had led to countless debates about whether certain goals should have been awarded from marks taken right on the siren at quarter, half and three-quarter-time, given that often those marks have been taken after the siren has sounded but before the umpire could signal the end the quarter.

However it is rare for play to continue after the final siren has sounded and for the outcome of a match to be changed as a result as the siren is supposed to continue sounding until the umpires hear it.

The last time this occurred was in the 1980 night grand final when Kerry Good kicked the winning goal for North Melbourne against Collingwood to give the Roos' a three-point win when the umpires failed to hear the final siren when Malcolm Blight had the ball in the middle of Waverley Park - just before he kicked it to the leading Good with Collingwood in front by three points.

The result of that game stood but there is a precedent for the result of a league game to be overturned on appeal but it happened more than a century ago and ironically also involved St Kilda.

It was in the opening round of 1900 and St Kilda was awarded a victory over Melbourne on protest - their first ever win in the competition having lost every match in their first three seasons - after the game had initially been declared a draw.

The league awarded the game to the Saints some six days later after ruling that the field umpire had wrongly allowed a mark to be paid to Melbourne's captain after the final siren, from which a behind was scored making the game a draw - with the league instead ruling the behind should be cancelled with the Saints awarded a one-point win.

crocodileman · Post by **crocodileman** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:52 pm

Willis 21 wrote:
I actually watched the last couple of minutes of this game waiting for the NRL to start.....

Didn't realise they had free to air coverage in Indonesia with AFL preceding League on the same channel!

Willis, I'm starting to believe you may be closer to "Home" than you've been saying!

Post by **Beaussie** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:59 pm

crocodileman wrote:
Willis 21 wrote:
I actually watched the last couple of minutes of this game waiting for the NRL to start.....
Didn't realise they had free to air coverage in Indonesia with AFL preceding League on the same channel!

Willis, I'm starting to believe you may be closer to "Home" than you've been saying!

Hmm, interesting observation now that you've pointed it out. Please explain Wilis.

Willis 21 · Post by **Willis 21** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:51 pm

crocodileman wrote:
Willis 21 wrote:
I actually watched the last couple of minutes of this game waiting for the NRL to start.....
Didn't realise they had free to air coverage in Indonesia with AFL preceding League on the same channel!

Willis, I'm starting to believe you may be closer to "Home" than you've been saying!

Abc Asia Pacific TV Croc and Bevictorian..

http://abcasiapacific.com/

Your tax payer dollars at work...

Post by **Beaussie** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:58 pm

Wow, appears you get better coverage than some AFL, NRL and Super 14 fans in Australia. Well done ABC. =D>

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Mon May 01, 2006 7:34 am

It's funny, my brother travelled down to tassie to watch the game (freo supporter) and his name is also Matthew Nicholls! coincident? i think not

Post by **Beaussie** » Wed May 03, 2006 6:23 pm

Seriously, why the hell is it taking so long for the AFL to make the right decision here and award Freo the win? Surely just watching a replay once would be enough to hear the siren and realise the umpire was wrong to let play continue.

And surely the Saints don't seriously think they have a case worthy of presenting. Fucking cheating bastards.

Post by **Beaussie** » Wed May 03, 2006 6:26 pm

Opps, jumped the gun a bit there. It was just announced on the news that the AFL has done the right thing and awarded Freo the win. Still why so long to come to that conclusion?

Post by **Beaussie** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:45 pm

Fancy St Kilda now talking about appealing the AFL's decision. Fucking dirty cheating dogs.

Willis 21 · Post by **Willis 21** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:27 pm

Good to see sanity has prevailed!!

beachlover · Post by **beachlover** » Sat May 20, 2006 1:09 am

Nice to read that Willis may actually be one of the minority of thugby leege supporters who is not "under 10", this is a reference to IQ.
What do you get when you cross hopoate with wendell sailor? powderfinger!
as for the issue that has long since passed. classy work saints. =D>

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