RL in VIC SA WA,Tas & NT v AFL in NZ

[Fred]

I agree re the abuse and immature antics we see on here. You can have a debate or point of difference without resorting to abuse and doing silly things like misspelling names. Also, let things go guys... Some makes a mistake and it permeates every thread for months !! Also, acknowledging strengths in other codes (international rl/AFL expansion and national coverage) doesn't hurt your argument ... It may add to it as it shows you can be reasonable and balanced. Thank god I'm not mod I would delete half the posts !

[AFLcrap1]

Lets see ,you join a forum to argue about sport v sport.
You spend the 1st 2 weeks arguing with paranoid rambling fools who have an obsession with RD,& are convinced you are RD even after proof is shown.Every thread I was in got hijacked by the AFL loonies with you are dave you are dave chant.

Then when that is sorted out (well maybe ,)you have the constant lies by AFL posters about what I post .
Claims that are straight out lies ,are not backed up by any proof ,yet they are ontinually made,.

so who has the major problem ..not me ..
I don't have to lie .
Why not ask Crapper,TLPG or Adam ..they post the lies .

Maybe just maybe if they tried to stick to the topic instead of lying ,some constructive debate might happen.

[AFLcrap1]

Adam says.

You keep relying on the Lawson report which ONLY refers to Auskick .

I posted proof that ,that statement was a LIE,& what does the ****** do ,go on a rant about something else.

Heres a hint stupid.
Try to post something that is somewhere near the truth.

Here's a hint try and engage in debate and not abuse - this forum is really a contradiction and abuse site not a fight club. You have a HUGE chip on your shoulders about AF, did some AF player pot your misses? I don't fear RL or worry if it expands rather I think it's enormously short sighted that it doesn't expand and grow its game - yet at every turn the RL follow the AFL in most things and you can't acknowledge that. You are so scared and paranoid about AF that it makes me think you have some deep seated underlying axe to grind.

Ok .I posted proof that what Adam posted was a lie .
Maybe if you had a look at what utter tripe or straight out lies are posted by your AFL buddies ,I mightnt have to continually abuse them..

Feel free to show me what was wrong .

I am not the slightest bit sared or paranoid about AFL.
Can you show me anywhere I have posted a lie about it.
The only lies are by AFL posters claiming I said this or that ...& never backed up with any proof.
If anyone is scared or afraid it seems to be you AFL mob...most of you seem to lie ..why the need to .

If I post something I have a source to back it up .& it usually counteracts the lies spread by AFL fans/media or AFL house.

How about you post a source as was asked about the thread you started ..5 biggest sporting events in AUS..
You have avoided that like the plague.

[NRLCrap1]

I want to see the full Lawson report.

[Swans4ever]

Lets see ,you join a forum to argue about sport v sport.
You spend the 1st 2 weeks arguing with paranoid rambling fools who have an obsession with RD,& are convinced you are RD even after proof is shown.Every thread I was in got hijacked by the AFL loonies with you are dave you are dave chant.

Then when that is sorted out (well maybe ,)you have the constant lies by AFL posters about what I post .
Claims that are straight out lies ,are not backed up by any proof ,yet they are ontinually made,.

so who has the major problem ..not me ..
I don't have to lie .
Why not ask Crapper,TLPG or Adam ..they post the lies .

Maybe just maybe if they tried to stick to the topic instead of lying ,some constructive debate might happen.

Like I said a MASSIVE chip on your shoulders - take a bex and have a good lie down!

[AFLcrap1]

Lets see ,you join a forum to argue about sport v sport.
You spend the 1st 2 weeks arguing with paranoid rambling fools who have an obsession with RD,& are convinced you are RD even after proof is shown.Every thread I was in got hijacked by the AFL loonies with you are dave you are dave chant.

Then when that is sorted out (well maybe ,)you have the constant lies by AFL posters about what I post .
Claims that are straight out lies ,are not backed up by any proof ,yet they are ontinually made,.

so who has the major problem ..not me ..
I don't have to lie .
Why not ask Crapper,TLPG or Adam ..they post the lies .

Maybe just maybe if they tried to stick to the topic instead of lying ,some constructive debate might happen.

Like I said a MASSIVE chip on your shoulders - take a bex and have a good lie down!

Laughable .
Q......Can you post a source to your bullshit claim?..
A........Blah blah ,massive chip blah blah..

& as for the lies ,I have posted plenty,with proof.

[AFLcrap1]

So swans ,I dreamt that I was accused of being RD for the first 2 weeks...?
Tell me mr deflection ,how do you debate AFL V RL ,when nearly every post was an accusation & nothing to do with the topic..
A bit like your reply above ..nothing to do with what I posted ,just a deflection...

[Raiderdave]

Lets see ,you join a forum to argue about sport v sport.
You spend the 1st 2 weeks arguing with paranoid rambling fools who have an obsession with RD,& are convinced you are RD even after proof is shown.Every thread I was in got hijacked by the AFL loonies with you are dave you are dave chant.

Then when that is sorted out (well maybe ,)you have the constant lies by AFL posters about what I post .
Claims that are straight out lies ,are not backed up by any proof ,yet they are ontinually made,.

so who has the major problem ..not me ..
I don't have to lie .
Why not ask Crapper,TLPG or Adam ..they post the lies .

Maybe just maybe if they tried to stick to the topic instead of lying ,some constructive debate might happen.

Like I said a MASSIVE chip on your shoulders - take a bex and have a good lie down!

hows that link going for that list you posted you illiterate lying little fuckhead ?

[Swans4ever]

So swans ,I dreamt that I was accused of being RD for the first 2 weeks...?
Tell me mr deflection ,how do you debate AFL V RL ,when nearly every post was an accusation & nothing to do with the topic..
A bit like your reply above ..nothing to do with what I posted ,just a deflection...

So your saying I accused you of being RD for two weeks! Well I was the FIRST to accept who you said you (prior to any post be TPG verifying who you said you were!) were and ever since you have ran around like a demented chicken with its head off accusing me of this and that - you are a typical bombastic know it all (but know nothing!) RL fan that thinks the country consists of QLD and NSW! You have a huge chip on your shoulders, you don't debate but try to abuse and bully - a typical coward - you don't respect others views just try and belittle - I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else! Deflection talk to RD EVERY time he was offered to step into the ring he ran like he was in the Stawell gift! So take your paranoia and the chip on your should and fuck off back to LU where you convince yourself that everything's fine with RL!

[NRLCrap1]

I'm still waiting for a link to the Lawson report......

[AFLcrap1]

So swans ,I dreamt that I was accused of being RD for the first 2 weeks...?
Tell me mr deflection ,how do you debate AFL V RL ,when nearly every post was an accusation & nothing to do with the topic..
A bit like your reply above ..nothing to do with what I posted ,just a deflection...

So your saying I accused you of being RD for two weeks! Well I was the FIRST to accept who you said you (prior to any post be TPG verifying who you said you were!) were and ever since you have ran around like a demented chicken with its head off accusing me of this and that - you are a typical bombastic know it all (but know nothing!) RL fan that thinks the country consists of QLD and NSW! You have a huge chip on your shoulders, you don't debate but try to abuse and bully - a typical coward - you don't respect others views just try and belittle - I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else! Deflection talk to RD EVERY time he was offered to step into the ring he ran like he was in the Stawell gift! So take your paranoia and the chip on your should and fuck off back to LU where you convince yourself that everything's fine with RL!

Seriously you cant be this dumb .its gotta be a gee up.

You posted this .


Here's a hint try and engage in debate and not abuse - this forum is really a contradiction and abuse site not a fight club

I explained why its hard to debate when hounded by the You are Dave cultists..Did I specifically name you ??
NO but your paranoia says its me its me.

I then explained that I have to spend time defending myself from the constant lies posted about me..
& what did you reply ..
I have a massive chip & need a Bex.....deflection & avoidance at its best.

Then there is this straight out fucking lie.
I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else!

Come on stupid show me where I have deflected..I post something I have a reliable source (Not WIKI to back it up)
& I will ask again as you seem to be the king of deflction & avoidance .
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR SOURCE FOR THE TOP 5 SPORTING EVENTS IN OZ.
I suspect you made it up & that's why you are avoiding answering..
& please take your HERO act with getting in the ring somewhere else.
That's the last port of call for people who have nothing in a debate.

[Swans4ever]

So swans ,I dreamt that I was accused of being RD for the first 2 weeks...?
Tell me mr deflection ,how do you debate AFL V RL ,when nearly every post was an accusation & nothing to do with the topic..
A bit like your reply above ..nothing to do with what I posted ,just a deflection...

So your saying I accused you of being RD for two weeks! Well I was the FIRST to accept who you said you (prior to any post be TPG verifying who you said you were!) were and ever since you have ran around like a demented chicken with its head off accusing me of this and that - you are a typical bombastic know it all (but know nothing!) RL fan that thinks the country consists of QLD and NSW! You have a huge chip on your shoulders, you don't debate but try to abuse and bully - a typical coward - you don't respect others views just try and belittle - I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else! Deflection talk to RD EVERY time he was offered to step into the ring he ran like he was in the Stawell gift! So take your paranoia and the chip on your should and fuck off back to LU where you convince yourself that everything's fine with RL!

Seriously you cant be this dumb .its gotta be a gee up.

You posted this .


Here's a hint try and engage in debate and not abuse - this forum is really a contradiction and abuse site not a fight club

I explained why its hard to debate when hounded by the You are Dave cultists..Did I specifically name you ??
NO but your paranoia says its me its me.

I then explained that I have to spend time defending myself from the constant lies posted about me..
& what did you reply ..
I have a massive chip & need a Bex.....deflection & avoidance at its best.

Then there is this straight out fucking lie.
I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else!

Come on stupid show me where I have deflected..I post something I have a reliable source (Not WIKI to back it up)
& I will ask again as you seem to be the king of deflction & avoidance .
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR SOURCE FOR THE TOP 5 SPORTING EVENTS IN OZ.
I suspect you made it up & that's why you are avoiding answering..
& please take your HERO act with getting in the ring somewhere else.
That's the last port of call for people who have nothing in a debate.

Again where did I accuse you of being Dave for the FIRST few weeks - I queried whether you were who you said you were for about two days at most - 2nd where is it said in the top five thread that it was from a paper - you ever heard of an opinion? You and the rest of the paranoia crew were being wound up - why do you think I didn't comment about the origins after I posted it! And you blokes fell hook line and sinker! So there's no need to post a source when it's an opinion - surely you could tell that - Parra is about as thick as they come and he worked it out straight away - but it proves the point I was making you RL fans are so wound up and paranoid that you go off at anything - far from being the restrained unbiased people you would like us to be - one post about NATIONAL relevance saw you foaming at the mouths - smashing your keyboards and doing the very thing you accuse AFL fans of! As for keyboard warrior - I went far further than that there is a thread called apology for a bout where I was going to take on KE in the ring for 3 x 2 min rounds - unlike bombastic wankers like you I am prepAred to back up my statements! Now if you care to actually talk I will respect your opinion provided it isn't about insults, abuse and put downs! until then take the chip on your shoulders and fuck off to LU!

[AFLcrap1]

So swans ,I dreamt that I was accused of being RD for the first 2 weeks...?
Tell me mr deflection ,how do you debate AFL V RL ,when nearly every post was an accusation & nothing to do with the topic..
A bit like your reply above ..nothing to do with what I posted ,just a deflection...

So your saying I accused you of being RD for two weeks! Well I was the FIRST to accept who you said you (prior to any post be TPG verifying who you said you were!) were and ever since you have ran around like a demented chicken with its head off accusing me of this and that - you are a typical bombastic know it all (but know nothing!) RL fan that thinks the country consists of QLD and NSW! You have a huge chip on your shoulders, you don't debate but try to abuse and bully - a typical coward - you don't respect others views just try and belittle - I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else! Deflection talk to RD EVERY time he was offered to step into the ring he ran like he was in the Stawell gift! So take your paranoia and the chip on your should and fuck off back to LU where you convince yourself that everything's fine with RL!

Seriously you cant be this dumb .its gotta be a gee up.

You posted this .


Here's a hint try and engage in debate and not abuse - this forum is really a contradiction and abuse site not a fight club

I explained why its hard to debate when hounded by the You are Dave cultists..Did I specifically name you ??
NO but your paranoia says its me its me.

I then explained that I have to spend time defending myself from the constant lies posted about me..
& what did you reply ..
I have a massive chip & need a Bex.....deflection & avoidance at its best.

Then there is this straight out fucking lie.
I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else!

Come on stupid show me where I have deflected..I post something I have a reliable source (Not WIKI to back it up)
& I will ask again as you seem to be the king of deflction & avoidance .
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR SOURCE FOR THE TOP 5 SPORTING EVENTS IN OZ.
I suspect you made it up & that's why you are avoiding answering..
& please take your HERO act with getting in the ring somewhere else.
That's the last port of call for people who have nothing in a debate.

Again where did I accuse you of being Dave for the FIRST few weeks - I queried whether you were who you said you were for about two days at most - 2nd where is it said in the top five thread that it was from a paper - you ever heard of an opinion? You and the rest of the paranoia crew were being wound up - why do you think I didn't comment about the origins after I posted it! And you blokes fell hook line and sinker! So there's no need to post a source when it's an opinion - surely you could tell that - Parra is about as thick as they come and he worked it out straight away - but it proves the point I was making you RL fans are so wound up and paranoid that you go off at anything - far from being the restrained unbiased people you would like us to be - one post about NATIONAL relevance saw you foaming at the mouths - smashing your keyboards and doing the very thing you accuse AFL fans of! As for keyboard warrior - I went far further than that there is a thread called apology for a bout where I was going to take on KE in the ring for 3 x 2 min rounds - unlike bombastic wankers like you I am prepAred to back up my statements! Now if you care to actually talk I will respect your opinion provided it isn't about insults, abuse and put downs! until then take the chip on your shoulders and fuck off to LU!

Rule # 1 when caught out lying or bullshitting...Claim you were fishing.
You and the rest of the paranoia crew were being wound up .

translation ..I was caught out ,so I have an excuse .

The reason you don't like what I post & ignore answering them is because ,unlike you AFL fan boys ,if I make a claim I will have a source.
I have backed up whatever I claim.
AFL in SYd.
50 K Dumbo fans.
Lies about numbers here & OS.
deals with cops to keep things hush hush.
hush money.
etc

Did it ever cross your mind ,that when all iget is deflection /abuse ,& no one wants to talk about what I post that all is left is to put shit on you mob.
So you fuck off back to Big footy till you grow up .
.NOnE OF YOU TARDS WILL EVER FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR SPORT..no matter what is posted showing the lies & propaganda ,you just stick your hands over your ears,& ignore it,

as for RL fans ..we have had our dirty laundry aired by News LTD continuously for yrs .
We know we have problems ,we just don't hide behind a propaganda Dept, nod, drink the kool aid & say yes .

Heres a Question for you .
Do you think Mickey o is a great role model & should have been made a Swans ambassador

[Fred]

No

[Swans4ever]

So swans ,I dreamt that I was accused of being RD for the first 2 weeks...?
Tell me mr deflection ,how do you debate AFL V RL ,when nearly every post was an accusation & nothing to do with the topic..
A bit like your reply above ..nothing to do with what I posted ,just a deflection...

So your saying I accused you of being RD for two weeks! Well I was the FIRST to accept who you said you (prior to any post be TPG verifying who you said you were!) were and ever since you have ran around like a demented chicken with its head off accusing me of this and that - you are a typical bombastic know it all (but know nothing!) RL fan that thinks the country consists of QLD and NSW! You have a huge chip on your shoulders, you don't debate but try to abuse and bully - a typical coward - you don't respect others views just try and belittle - I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else! Deflection talk to RD EVERY time he was offered to step into the ring he ran like he was in the Stawell gift! So take your paranoia and the chip on your should and fuck off back to LU where you convince yourself that everything's fine with RL!

Seriously you cant be this dumb .its gotta be a gee up.

You posted this .


Here's a hint try and engage in debate and not abuse - this forum is really a contradiction and abuse site not a fight club

I explained why its hard to debate when hounded by the You are Dave cultists..Did I specifically name you ??
NO but your paranoia says its me its me.

I then explained that I have to spend time defending myself from the constant lies posted about me..
& what did you reply ..
I have a massive chip & need a Bex.....deflection & avoidance at its best.

Then there is this straight out fucking lie.
I'm not scared of wankers like you and have no doubt your as gutless as RD! When push comes to shove and your asked to back it up then you go onto something else!

Come on stupid show me where I have deflected..I post something I have a reliable source (Not WIKI to back it up)
& I will ask again as you seem to be the king of deflction & avoidance .
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR SOURCE FOR THE TOP 5 SPORTING EVENTS IN OZ.
I suspect you made it up & that's why you are avoiding answering..
& please take your HERO act with getting in the ring somewhere else.
That's the last port of call for people who have nothing in a debate.

Again where did I accuse you of being Dave for the FIRST few weeks - I queried whether you were who you said you were for about two days at most - 2nd where is it said in the top five thread that it was from a paper - you ever heard of an opinion? You and the rest of the paranoia crew were being wound up - why do you think I didn't comment about the origins after I posted it! And you blokes fell hook line and sinker! So there's no need to post a source when it's an opinion - surely you could tell that - Parra is about as thick as they come and he worked it out straight away - but it proves the point I was making you RL fans are so wound up and paranoid that you go off at anything - far from being the restrained unbiased people you would like us to be - one post about NATIONAL relevance saw you foaming at the mouths - smashing your keyboards and doing the very thing you accuse AFL fans of! As for keyboard warrior - I went far further than that there is a thread called apology for a bout where I was going to take on KE in the ring for 3 x 2 min rounds - unlike bombastic wankers like you I am prepAred to back up my statements! Now if you care to actually talk I will respect your opinion provided it isn't about insults, abuse and put downs! until then take the chip on your shoulders and fuck off to LU!

Rule # 1 when caught out lying or bullshitting...Claim you were fishing.
You and the rest of the paranoia crew were being wound up .

translation ..I was caught out ,so I have an excuse .

The reason you don't like what I post & ignore answering them is because ,unlike you AFL fan boys ,if I make a claim I will have a source.
I have backed up whatever I claim.
AFL in SYd.
50 K Dumbo fans.
Lies about numbers here & OS.
deals with cops to keep things hush hush.
hush money.
etc

Did it ever cross your mind ,that when all iget is deflection /abuse ,& no one wants to talk about what I post that all is left is to put shit on you mob.
So you fuck off back to Big footy till you grow up .
.NOnE OF YOU TARDS WILL EVER FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR SPORT..no matter what is posted showing the lies & propaganda ,you just stick your hands over your ears,& ignore it,

as for RL fans ..we have had our dirty laundry aired by News LTD continuously for yrs .
We know we have problems ,we just don't hide behind a propaganda Dept, nod, drink the kool aid & say yes .

Heres a Question for you .
Do you think Mickey o is a great role model & should have been made a Swans ambassador

1st you post something from 7 yrs ago and say it's still relevant - why stop there how about you post something from the 80's showing how great RL is,

2nd it's not caught lying if you don't claim something is fact rather than opinion - I let you go off on your rant for a week - I also PM another poster telling them I was winding you up - because I knew what you would say next - so again not caught out - it was by design!

3rd lies about AF numbers here and OS - you quote the Lawson report as gospel so let me ask this one question - where is the report for 2013?

One more question - tell us poor ol AFL fans this WTF is "A rugby league experience" - well define that one! You can't and you know it - tell us about the whole league that doesn't exist in WA! I have looked high and low for the Pilbara League and I notice its since been taken off the WARL website - so before you start accusing the AFL start looking at RL and it's distorting the facts!

Lastly I know this BS story about Micky O - well I thought in THIS country one is innocent until proven guilty - or is that presumption only there for RL types - how about Benny Elias while were dragging up ancient history? Yeah just like I thought your again picking out arguments trying to obtain some moral high point! Fact is NOTHING has been proven against Micky O - but I will say this - Jury's usually have little respect for complainants who can be bought - I have little faith in the accuracy of what someone says who is paid to say something or not say something! So to your last point an UNPROVEN allegation from 2000 by a highly suspect witness should NOT take anything away from this club and game legend! Yes until proven he is still a great role model who had given stacks to the game! Just another exercise of RL fans throwing mud!

Look at your own backyard! As for none of us turds will ever see anything wrong with the AFL - well our code HAS NEVER sold its sole and honour to channel nine! We have maintained our game INDEPENDENT of our broadcaster not like you mob! So again fuck off back to LU with that massive chip on your shoulders!