Selection criteria for RLWC is pure and simple a joke!

[pHyR3]

People can be both fijian and australian. It's complicated for you nrlcrap i know, but it's true. And since those people want to play on a world stage, and they love both countries they are willing to play for either. But they may feel more inclined to play for one, if they dont make it then they are happy to play for the other.

I don't understand why you keep denying people can be of two nationalities? ever heard of dual citizenship?

[NRLCrap1]

Ever heard of two countries on one birth cerificate?

Idiot.

[pHyR3]

Ever heard of two countries on one birth cerificate?

Idiot.

why is a birth certificate the only definition of nationality of allegience to a country you are willing to accept? you cant actually be that stupid...can you? prove me wrong, restore some of my faith in AFL supporters and humanity.

[NRLCrap1]

What other way is there to decide who plays for what country and it can't be twisted in any way shape or form? Come on - you think you're so smart. Show me a way that will get the job done and leave NO loopholes!

[Swans4ever]

Look I don't care if he decided he really wanted to play for Australia OR Fiji - the point is when he got SNUBED by Australia he then played for Fiji - that he can say "oh well didn't get picked for Australia, I'll play for Fiji instead!, oh wait didn't get picked for Fiji don't worry hop on a plane to the US of A and sweet it's off to a WC!" It is padding out sides to make them competitive - all the bragging about results in the WC won't change that fact! It's taking opportunities away from talent from THAT country - it's being done to pull the wool over the eyes of the public - AND like you RL fans always accuse us AFL fans - it's you believing EVERYTHING your told by NRL HQ and refusing to question the lies their spinning!!!!! So it seems our RL know what hyporacy is because they are showing it right now!

[pHyR3]

What other way is there to decide who plays for what country and it can't be twisted in any way shape or form? Come on - you think you're so smart. Show me a way that will get the job done and leave NO loopholes!

player must be born in a country, live in the country for more than 3 years before the age of 13 or one of his parents must be born in that country to live in that country.

i'm sure you can find some loop holes with that, but there are loop holes in place of birth too.

Place of birth =/= nationality always. IS NICOLE KIDMAN AN AMERICAN? hint:if you answer yes youre a ******.

[pHyR3]

Look I don't care if he decided he really wanted to play for Australia OR Fiji - the point is when he got SNUBED by Australia he then played for Fiji - that he can say "oh well didn't get picked for Australia, I'll play for Fiji instead!, oh wait didn't get picked for Fiji don't worry hop on a plane to the US of A and sweet it's off to a WC!" It is padding out sides to make them competitive - all the bragging about results in the WC won't change that fact! It's taking opportunities away from talent from THAT country - it's being done to pull the wool over the eyes of the public - AND like you RL fans always accuse us AFL fans - it's you believing EVERYTHING your told by NRL HQ and refusing to question the lies their spinning!!!!! So it seems our RL know what hyporacy is because they are showing it right now!

Most players do not have two countries they play for, usually only one.

SOME have two, and i'm happy for them to have a preference to play for Australia over Fiji. A lot more money which is a concern for people whose familys are not very rich, or even very poor and they are often by far the biggest earner and support numerous people. Not to mention the possibility of a career ending injury at any time.

Almost none have THREE and decide to play for USA after not making two other teams.

[Raiderdave]

Ever heard of two countries on one birth cerificate?

Idiot.

ever heard of dual citizenship you fucktard :_<> :_<> :_<>

[NRLCrap1]

What other way is there to decide who plays for what country and it can't be twisted in any way shape or form? Come on - you think you're so smart. Show me a way that will get the job done and leave NO loopholes!

player must be born in a country, live in the country for more than 3 years before the age of 13 or one of his parents must be born in that country to live in that country.

i'm sure you can find some loop holes with that, but there are loop holes in place of birth too.

Place of birth =/= nationality always. IS NICOLE KIDMAN AN AMERICAN? hint:if you answer yes youre a ******.

There are NO loopholes in place of birth, dummy! And yes, Nicole Kidman is American by birth and if you think that makes me a ****** you are something beyind that!

Your attempt is FULL of loopholes;

1. One can qualify for a country if you live there for three years before you're 13 even though the rest of the time you lived in you country of birth - total bullshit and should not be included. It's possible to live in as many as FOUR different countries that way!

2. Each parents could have been born in different countries to the person's country of birth creating THREE different options aside from the first rule!

Dave, citizenship is IRRELEVANT!

[Swans4ever]

What other way is there to decide who plays for what country and it can't be twisted in any way shape or form? Come on - you think you're so smart. Show me a way that will get the job done and leave NO loopholes!

player must be born in a country, live in the country for more than 3 years before the age of 13 or one of his parents must be born in that country to live in that country.

i'm sure you can find some loop holes with that, but there are loop holes in place of birth too.

Place of birth =/= nationality always. IS NICOLE KIDMAN AN AMERICAN? hint:if you answer yes youre a ******.

There are NO loopholes in place of birth, dummy! And yes, Nicole Kidman is American by birth and if you think that makes me a ****** you are something beyind that!

Your attempt is FULL of loopholes;

1. One can qualify for a country if you live there for three years before you're 13 even though the rest of the time you lived in you country of birth - total bullshit and should not be included. It's possible to live in as many as FOUR different countries that way!

2. Each parents could have been born in different countries to the person's country of birth creating THREE different options aside from the first rule!

Dave, citizenship is IRRELEVANT!

As the rule includes GRANDPARENTS the loop hole is even wider - 7 possible countries a person could play for on heritage alone - if that's not a fudge I don't know what is?

[NRLCrap1]

Well Fyiar didn't mention grandparents, but that's a good point anyway!

[Swans4ever]

3. Eligibility for International Rugby League
3.1 A player is eligible to play an International Match for:-
(a) the country in which he was born;
(b) the country in which either of his parents or any of his grandparents was born;
(c) the country which has been his principal place of residence for a period of three years up to the date of his selection;
(d) the country that he has represented pursuant to paragraph 3.2 (irrespective of whether that country continues to be his principal place of residence) provided that he has not subsequently represented any other country pursuant to Rule 3.3 below.
3.2 A player shall not be treated as having his principal residence in a country for the purpose of Rule 3.1(c) if he has not been present in that country for nine months in any period of twelve months during the three years up to the date of his selection.
3.3 A player who is eligible to play for more than one country shall be entitled to elect for which country he wishes to play. When a player plays a Senior International Match for a country, he is deemed to have elected to play for that country. Subject to Rule 3.5, once an election is made the player may not play Senior representative rugby league for any other country until the end of the next World Cup tournament, or the expiry of two years, whichever is earlier (“Election Period”).
3.4 After the expiry of an Election Period, the player may elect to play for another country if he is eligible, but once he so elects (or is deemed to elect by playing in a Senior International Match) he may not play for another country until the expiry of another Election Period.
3.5 During an Election Period, a player may change from one country to another for which he is eligible pursuant to Rule 3.1, with the approval of the Federation (but he may only change once in each Election Period).
3.6 A player may not change their National Team during any Federation sanctioned International Tournament (including any qualification matches played as part of that International Tournament) in which that player is participating.
3.7 The burden of proof in establishing eligibility is on the player and the National Team that they wish to represent. If a player plays an International Match for a National Team which he is not eligible to represent, both the player and the National Team which selected him shall be guilty of misconduct.
3.8 Where a player considers that he is eligible to join a National Team squad on the basis of Rule 3.1 above, before he first joins that squad, he shall provide proof of his eligibility to the National Team wishing to select him. In the case of eligibility under Rule 3.1(a) and (b), the player shall provide the National Team with a copy of the relevant birth certificate and/or passport stating place of birth.
3.9 Where a player is not able to provide a copy of the relevant birth certificate and/or passport, the matter shall be referred to the Rules of the Game Committee and the player shall only be entitled to represent the National Team if they can provide satisfactory evidence to the Rules of the Game Committee that the player is eligible to do so. Save in extreme circumstances affidavits by a player will not be considered as satisfactory evidence.
3.10 National Teams shall, promptly upon request, provide the Federation with a copy of any evidence they have relied on pursuant to Rule 3.1 to 3.2. Where a National Team fails to do so, or the Federation do not consider the evidence satisfactory, the relevant player shall not be entitled to represent the National Team.
3.11 In the circumstances set out in Rule 3.10 above or in the event of the eligibility of a player to play for a National Team being uncertain or in dispute, upon the written request of any Member, Affiliate or Associate Member to the Chairman it shall be referred to the Rules of the Game Committee for determination.
3.12 The National Team which wished to select the player in question may appeal the decision of the Rules of the Game Committee to the RLIF Board. The decision of the RLIF Board shall be final and binding and not subject to appeal.

http://www.rlif.com/about-rlif/laws_regulations

As you can see under 3.1(b) there is a VERY BIG loop hole!

[pHyR3]

What other way is there to decide who plays for what country and it can't be twisted in any way shape or form? Come on - you think you're so smart. Show me a way that will get the job done and leave NO loopholes!

player must be born in a country, live in the country for more than 3 years before the age of 13 or one of his parents must be born in that country to live in that country.

i'm sure you can find some loop holes with that, but there are loop holes in place of birth too.

Place of birth =/= nationality always. IS NICOLE KIDMAN AN AMERICAN? hint:if you answer yes youre a ******.

There are NO loopholes in place of birth, dummy! And yes, Nicole Kidman is American by birth and if you think that makes me a ****** you are something beyind that!

Your attempt is FULL of loopholes;

1. One can qualify for a country if you live there for three years before you're 13 even though the rest of the time you lived in you country of birth - total bullshit and should not be included. It's possible to live in as many as FOUR different countries that way!

2. Each parents could have been born in different countries to the person's country of birth creating THREE different options aside from the first rule!

Dave, citizenship is IRRELEVANT!

so everyone the test results are in.

turns out NRLCrap1 DOES have an extra 21st chromosome. HOORAYYY!!!

i SAID there are loopholes, but it sure as hell is better than your ****** method of place of birth. Nicole Kidman is not an american, she probably wouldnt even wanna play for the yanks.

anyway i'm done arguing with an imbecile like you. and obviously you will retort with some idiotic reply like "oh hes running away cause he knows hes lost" but i've already written more than around 50 words so youve probably stopped reading by here....

[pHyR3]

clearly you are butthurt that the RLWC just sold out 17.5k in fking FRANCE.

and another 25k sell out will take place tonight, England vs Ireland. we've already well past 100k for the tournament, at this rate (despite playing many games at capacities of less than 10k) we will reach about 380k for the tournmanet. But, if you includes tonight already agiven sellout we will pass 410k at that rate, and that's before any finals games (2 at the 90k Wembley and one at 75k Tradford).


Sooooo AFL international cup or interntaional rules, whatever the fuck you play. How's that going? 500 people? wowww nice work. ooo 15k for international rules in a one off game in ireland,!!!! GOOD JOB AFL you bumblers.

let's see you get 7.3k in usa for a game that has no aussie teams playing like RL did. hell, lets see you do that in ANY country where its not an exhibition match of geelong vs freemantle or whatever.

[NRLCrap1]

i SAID there are loopholes, but it sure as hell is better than your ****** method of place of birth. Nicole Kidman is not an american, she probably wouldnt even wanna play for the yanks.

If the rules were right - she wouldn't have a say in it! My method is the ONLY method that should be used - no loopholes, no arguments, that's it. Expanding on it leaves loopholes, and it's those loopholes that make your WC the fricking JOKE that it is for the players!

anyway i'm done arguing with an imbecile like you. and obviously you will retort with some idiotic reply like "oh hes running away cause he knows hes lost" but i've already written more than around 50 words so youve probably stopped reading by here....

That's right. You are running away - from the truth. You think that the current structure is acceptable and I'm telling you it's not. You can bleat about it until the cows come home, but as long as a player can play for more than one country under the rules of qualification the system is a joke.