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Yeah it was quite a good read. The thing that I found interesting was when someone ( not in this article) was talking Brisbane broncos and saying that they out spend the biggest AFL clubs on football spending by 5 million dollars a year. This would be a gap of 10 to 20 million dollars a year in football spending over other NRL clubs like the Raiders. The storm was also receiving an extra 6 million a year if I remember correctly for its football spending from news limited that would again dwarf many of the other clubs. And sorry to repeat myself, but which two teams have won 7 of the last 15 grand finals?
This article says the gap of biggest AFL clubs spending being 5 million a year more then the smallest AFL club is to much and is causing problems with evenness. my question would be what sort of unevenness would a gap of 15 million like in the NRL has cause with quite a few less players in a team as well. I'm sure others have brought this to the attention of the NRL in the past.
And further to that, the AFL and players association are taking steps to address this issue. Meanwhile the NRL seem happy to let the broncos and storm dominate their competition in a desperate bid for TV cash. For shame.

AFL players' association boss Matt Finnis warns the fabric of the AFL will come under threat unless changes are made to stop rich clubs dominating.

Finnis said the performance gap between the league's highest-spending and lowest-spending clubs was becoming so entrenched that it appeared existing equalisation measures such as the draft and salary cap couldn't change it.

"The last five years the top four spending teams are consistently winning more games than the bottom four spending teams," Finnis told reporters on Tuesday night after the AFLPA's annual general meeting.

"We should be very careful about not getting caught up on something which may be a cycle, but it would seem now that the evidence is suggesting it's more than a cycle.

"If we don't address the issue perhaps the trends might continue to the point where it does pose a threat to the very fabric of our competition."

Finnis' comments come after AFL chairman Mike Fitzpatrick declared the league one of the world's least-equalised competitions in terms of revenue-sharing, of those that have an equalisation policy.

The AFL will meet officials from all clubs on Wednesday to discuss the issue.

Finnis said the AFLPA had not proposed a specific solution but Wednesday's meeting provided an opportunity that needed to be seized upon.

The issue has divided clubs, with officials from richer clubs such as Carlton, Collingwood, Hawthorn and Richmond having met separately recently to form a unified front against proposals involving redistributing money to poorer clubs.

AFLPA president and Collingwood midfielder Luke Ball said club loyalties also made it hard for players to have a united voice on the issue, although there was widespread support for an equal competition.

"We want all our players drafted to every different club to go in knowing they're going to be given every possible chance to be part of a successful team," Ball said.

Ball will also speak at a two-day conference on concussion.

It starts on Wednesday in Melbourne and involves representatives of various sporting codes.

The AFL is expected to announce revised concussion guidelines on Wednesday and Ball said players supported the way the league was handling the issue.

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The most lopsided competition in the entire world me thinks............. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Pies and dogs, some superb articles you've both linked. Pies for your information the NRL may have two financially bloated clubs but the AFL appear to have 6 or so. The NRL also havent had anywhere near their most lopsided comp of all times...the AFL just has! Now get with the program pies and stop your foolish feeble diversionary tactics. The big issue is clearly with the AFL, its serious and dire. ITs just a massive chasm which has been exacerbated by poor AFL policy setting, just as ive said before. Compound this witht the shamozzle of the recent expansion process and we have onnnne sick league.

I particularly like how dogs article calls for "solutions", like i've been doing. So with this new knowledge thanks to pies and dogs, what are the solutions folks? I personally think there's a myriad of problems but two clubs need to be dumped. And seeing as though there's both an issue with the quality players spreading too thin and the rich clubs getting richer i say collingwood and one other of those rich clubs, carlton was it? Anyway Collingwood and Xman's smarmy snobish team Essendon need to be dumped. Otherwise the AFL has a very looooong boring few lopsided decades ahead, thus more than likely lasting longer than the life spans of most the AFL supporters on this site.

How do you guys feel about that? Watching the most lopsided professional sporting comp in the land for the rest of your living days? You guys cant like them apples...and i feel sorry for you. So lets get together and advocate for the AFL to make this happen :D Unless any other of you have any solution? I can see the AFL trying to do something but, as in life, if you're too soft on the rich bastards they'll galvanise together to protect their riches, just like collingwood, essendon and co have done this week [-X
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The most lopsided competition in the entire world me thinks
Yes eels, you may well be spot on with this thought. I tend to agree. It's quite astounding how poorly that comp has been run this last 5 years. [-X
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Pies and dogs, some superb articles you've both linked. Pies for your information the NRL may have two financially bloated clubs but the AFL appear to have 6 or so. The NRL also havent had anywhere near their most lopsided comp of all times...the AFL just has! Now get with the program pies and stop your foolish feeble diversionary tactics. The big issue is clearly with the AFL, its serious and dire. ITs just a massive chasm which has been exacerbated by poor AFL policy setting, just as ive said before. Compound this witht the shamozzle of the recent expansion process and we have onnnne sick league.

I particularly like how dogs article calls for "solutions", like i've been doing. So with this new knowledge thanks to pies and dogs, what are the solutions folks? I personally think there's a myriad of problems but two clubs need to be dumped. And seeing as though there's both an issue with the quality players spreading too thin and the rich clubs getting richer i say collingwood and one other of those rich clubs, carlton was it? Anyway Collingwood and Xman's smarmy snobish team Essendon need to be dumped. Otherwise the AFL has a very looooong boring few lopsided decades ahead, thus more than likely lasting longer than the life spans of most the AFL supporters on this site.

How do you guys feel about that? Watching the most lopsided professional sporting comp in the land for the rest of your living days? You guys cant like them apples...and i feel sorry for you. So lets get together and advocate for the AFL to make this happen :D Unless any other of you have any solution? I can see the AFL trying to do something but, as in life, if you're too soft on the rich bastards they'll galvanise together to protect their riches, just like collingwood, essendon and co have done this week [-X
You don't deserve to be in the discussion. This issue has been answered multiple times but you completely ignore it.

As I said in another thread, the AFL are addressing the serious issue of wealth divide. The NRL are promoting it [-X
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Oi! I started this bloomin thread Xman. Just because you take the faith option, the blindly religious ignorant like opinion that alls is rosey and it'll all be good in a few years time as the two new clubs build doesnt mean you're anywhere near right. The suns were rubbish again last year and they'll be rubbish again this year and next and next and so on. GWS were woeful last year and they'll be the same this year and next and next and so on.

Xman you simply dont understand what it feels like to be on a team that is more than shit and getting absolutely shamed week in week out. They clearly dont belong in the AFL and neither does melbourne or port adelaide and probably the bulldogs and brisbane also. Team morale is highly important and I'd put everything I own that in all these clubs it is shot to pieces. They konw they're shit and there's only so long professional and semi professional players in these teams will keep on going on in a career which looks like a dead end with the certainty of 15-20 absolute thumpings per season... :|

We shall see how this season and next goes. But if I were you Xman i'd heed my wise words and jump on the "lets advocate to improve the shithouse AFL comp" bandwagon :o :thumbleft:

Oh and Xman? Can you tell Beaussie this thread deserves sticky status. It's clearly already, and going to continue to be, an ongoing issue...atleast until the AFL takes some drastic action, which on their past records may or may not happen before the end of the century.
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Oi! I started this bloomin thread Xman. Just because you take the faith option, the blindly religious ignorant like opinion that alls is rosey and it'll all be good in a few years time as the two new clubs build doesnt mean you're anywhere near right. The suns were rubbish again last year and they'll be rubbish again this year and next and next and so on. GWS were woeful last year and they'll be the same this year and next and next and so on.

Xman you simply dont understand what it feels like to be on a team that is more than shit and getting absolutely shamed week in week out. They clearly dont belong in the AFL and neither does melbourne or port adelaide and probably the bulldogs and brisbane also. Team morale is highly important and I'd put everything I own that in all these clubs it is shot to pieces. They konw they're shit and there's only so long professional and semi professional players in these teams will keep on going on in a career which looks like a dead end with the certainty of 15-20 absolute thumpings per season... :|

We shall see how this season and next goes. But if I were you Xman i'd heed my wise words and jump on the "lets advocate to improve the shithouse AFL comp" bandwagon :o :thumbleft:

Oh and Xman? Can you tell Beaussie this thread deserves sticky status. It's clearly already, and going to continue to be, an ongoing issue...atleast until the AFL takes some drastic action, which on their past records may or may not happen before the end of the century.
The vast majority of AFL fans know the suns and giants will be strong sides within years. The lions are already on their way.

Topic over :wink:
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Strong sides within years:lol:

Lets see, 2011 Suns - 3 wins --- 2012 (a comp with the inclusion of the pre pubescent gws side and the most basketcase sides in AFL competition history) annnnnd 3 wins.

Yep all signs are pointing to the suns being on their way to being a "strong side" :lol:

And what about those western bulldogs? Coming into season 2013 on a 13 and 0 losing streak, oh dear :lol:

Members, Xman is, quite clearly, showing chronic symptoms of ignorance and/or being brainwashed. He listens and believes Demetrious staunch words that everything will be ok to the media without any thought as to what the discourse is behind closed doors... I feel for our Xman, being so out of touch with reality.
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Strong sides within years:lol:

Lets see, 2011 Suns - 3 wins --- 2012 (a comp with the inclusion of the pre pubescent gws side and the most basketcase sides in AFL competition history) annnnnd 3 wins.

Yep all signs are pointing to the suns being on their way to being a "strong side" :lol:

And what about those western bulldogs? Coming into season 2013 on a 13 and 0 losing streak, oh dear :lol:

Members, Xman is, quite clearly, showing chronic symptoms of ignorance and/or being brainwashed. He listens and believes Demetrious staunch words that everything will be ok to the media without any thought as to what the discourse is behind closed doors... I feel for our Xman, being so out of touch with reality.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Now all this thing needs is a skipping rope and it paints these AFL fans to perfection... :wink:
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King-Eliagh wrote:
Strong sides within years:lol:

Lets see, 2011 Suns - 3 wins --- 2012 (a comp with the inclusion of the pre pubescent gws side and the most basketcase sides in AFL competition history) annnnnd 3 wins.

Yep all signs are pointing to the suns being on their way to being a "strong side" :lol:

And what about those western bulldogs? Coming into season 2013 on a 13 and 0 losing streak, oh dear :lol:

Members, Xman is, quite clearly, showing chronic symptoms of ignorance and/or being brainwashed. He listens and believes Demetrious staunch words that everything will be ok to the media without any thought as to what the discourse is behind closed doors... I feel for our Xman, being so out of touch with reality.
So thats two sides out of 18 :-k

Wow, how lopsided! :roll:
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King-Eliagh wrote:
Strong sides within years:lol:

Lets see, 2011 Suns - 3 wins --- 2012 (a comp with the inclusion of the pre pubescent gws side and the most basketcase sides in AFL competition history) annnnnd 3 wins.

Yep all signs are pointing to the suns being on their way to being a "strong side" :lol:

And what about those western bulldogs? Coming into season 2013 on a 13 and 0 losing streak, oh dear :lol:

Members, Xman is, quite clearly, showing chronic symptoms of ignorance and/or being brainwashed. He listens and believes Demetrious staunch words that everything will be ok to the media without any thought as to what the discourse is behind closed doors... I feel for our Xman, being so out of touch with reality.
If you want to tell us the stats KE at least get them right. 13 and 0 I dont think so. [-X
In fact I would say that it was not quite as bad as the Eels 2 wins and 17 losses from 2011 into 2012 (thats a nice streak they had going).
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The vast majority of AFL fans know the suns and giants will be strong sides within years.
of course they know

but this will only occur due to rampant manipulation & rigging by the VFL for this to occur
and what is astounding is

these same VFL fans based in the heartland also know it will probably be at the expense of their clubs success

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have you ever come across a bigger pack of fuckwits in all yr life :-k


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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
The vast majority of AFL fans know the suns and giants will be strong sides within years.
of course they know

but this will only occur due to rampant manipulation & rigging by the VFL for this to occur
and what is astounding is

these same VFL fans based in the heartland also know it will probably be at the expense of their clubs success

8-[


have you ever come across a bigger pack of fuckwits in all yr life :-k


:lol: :lol: :lol:
as opposed to raping 17 other clubs of their favorite players....I know which I'd rather
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Sorry pies it was 11 and 0 losing streak for the bulldogs!... not much better! :lol: Will they go to 12 and 0 after round 1? All depends if they play one of the six basketcase sides or not :lol:

And i think its timely for an update on the basketcase league. In 2013 brisbane lions are hot favourites to continue as they did in 2012 and win the official 2013 basketcase cup. They really took off after the half way mark of last season, winning all their matches against the other basketcases and even catching a few middle of the comp teams out on one of their bad days. Though i must say i think port might lift this year in the basketcase league. I predict the suns will go one worse than they did this year and take the wooden spoon and i predict GWS will go one better than last year and notch up 3 wins, all against other basketcase sides of course :lol: Melbourne will continue going down and will be in a real fight with the western bulldogs to make the top three imo. So its brissie to win the basketcase league 2 years in a row, port to come second and prob the bulldogs to pip melb for third in the 2013 basketcase cup. Whatta you guys reckon?
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Sorry pies it was 11 and 0 losing streak for the bulldogs!... not much better! :lol: Will they go to 12 and 0 after round 1? All depends if they play one of the six basketcase sides or not :lol:

And i think its timely for an update on the basketcase league. In 2013 brisbane lions are hot favourites to continue as they did in 2012 and win the official 2013 basketcase cup. They really took off after the half way mark of last season, winning all their matches against the other basketcases and even catching a few middle of the comp teams out on one of their bad days. Though i must say i think port might lift this year in the basketcase league. I predict the suns will go one worse than they did this year and take the wooden spoon and i predict GWS will go one better than last year and notch up 3 wins, all against other basketcase sides of course :lol: Melbourne will continue going down and will be in a real fight with the western bulldogs to make the top three imo. So its brissie to win the basketcase league 2 years in a row, port to come second and prob the bulldogs to pip melb for third in the 2013 basketcase cup. Whatta you guys reckon?
The lions beat a few teams in the 8. Oh what a basket case! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Behold folks, the 2012 basketcase cup champions! The Brisbane Lions!!! =D> =D> =D>


Round 1 Sat 31 Mar Melbourne
MCG 33473 Win 119-78
41
Round 2 Thu 5 Apr Carlton
Gabba 25913 Loss 63-154
91
Round 3 Sat 14 Apr Fremantle
Patersons Stadium 33473 Loss 35-64
29
Round 4 Sat 21 Apr Gold Coast
Gabba 21980 Win 111-46
65
Round 5 Sat 28 Apr Geelong
Gabba 15528 Loss 41-79
38
Round 6 Sat 5 May Essendon
Etihad Stadium 36361 Loss 62-129
67
Round 7 Sat 12 May Collingwood
Gabba 27926 Loss 58-116
58
Round 8 Sun 20 May GWS
Gabba 16049 Win 132-40
92
Round 9 Sun 27 May North Melbourne
Etihad Stadium 19988 Loss 96-112
16
Round 10 Sun 3 Jun West Coast
Gabba 15546 Win 102-100
2
Round 12 Sun 17 Jun Hawthorn
MCG 35492 Loss 70-135
65
Round 13 Sat 23 Jun Western Bulldogs
Etihad Stadium 20146 Win 114-56
58
Round 14 Sun 1 Jul Melbourne
Gabba 22114 Win 122-61
61
Round 15 Sat 7 Jul Sydney
SCG 19419 Loss 63-110
47
Round 16 Sat 14 Jul St Kilda
Gabba 19228 Loss 92-105
13
Round 17 Sat 21 Jul Gold Coast
Gabba 16550 Win 59-48
11
Round 18 Sun 29 Jul West Coast
Patersons Stadium 35767 Loss 77-175
98
Round 19 Sat 4 Aug Richmond
Gabba 22193 Loss 84-132
48
Round 20 Sat 11 Aug Carlton
Etihad Stadium 25977 Loss 77-113
36
Round 21 Sat 18 Aug Adelaide
Gabba 18979 Win 95-85
10
Round 22 Sat 25 Aug Port Adelaide
AAMI Stadium 13953 Win 104-93
11
Round 23 Sun 2 Sep Western Bulldogs
Gabba 18289 Win 128-61
67

Two wins all season against sides who arent basketcases...but didnt the lions play well against the basket cases! :lol:
As Ive said before, the sun shines out of a basketcases butt once every now and then. :D :\:

Stay tuned for the basketcase league this season folks, it's gunna be a ripper waaaaaaaay down there at the bottom of the table :lol:
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