the VFL , officially a disgrace

[King-Eliagh]

Generalising? No I dont think so pal. I'm coming from real experience and me thinks you know it, otherwise you'd provide something of more substance than your reactionary and and "prove it" rubbish.

Facts are private schools, their staff and students do not reflect the diverse social, economic, cultural and religious makeup of the Australian society as well as public schools do. In fact private schools are about as far off reflecting this country's status as you can get. They are often elitist and conservative institutions which thus produce a narrow educational environment and experience and perpetuate and increase the power and resource divide between this nations wealthy and poor.

Prove me wrong Xman ya silly dikkwad.

[Xman]

Generalising? No I dont think so pal. I'm coming from real experience and me thinks you know it, otherwise you'd provide something of more substance than your reactionary and and "prove it" rubbish.

Facts are private schools, their staff and students do not reflect the diverse social, economic, cultural and religious makeup of the Australian society as well as public schools do. In fact private schools are about as far off reflecting this country's status as you can get. They are often elitist and conservative institutions which thus produce a narrow educational environment and experience and perpetuate and increase the power and resource divide between this nations wealthy and poor.

Prove me wrong Xman ya silly dikkwad.

rubbish. Religious schools like catholic schools are private and have a good mix of kids from different socioeconomic backgrounds and beliefs.

[King-Eliagh]

The catholic schools is alls you've got? And they have a "good mix of kids from different socioeconomic and religious backgrounds?"

Ahhh tell me Xman. Why's a catholic school called a catholic school again?

How many muslim kids you reckon there are in a sydney catholic school? Any refugees ya reckon? What about kids of families who require government income support?

Who's the douche?

[Stewie]

Because RL is too physically demanding and more suited to kids who are in the public school system i.e. physically tough rather than poncy spoon fed upturned nosed lads who've only recently completed their toilet training. Comprehende stewie?

More physically demanding? How so? Union has real scrums where strength is key while league just has a poofy 2 second scrum. League also seems to be a one dimensional sport compared to union.

[Xman]

The catholic schools is alls you've got? And they have a "good mix of kids from different socioeconomic and religious backgrounds?"

Ahhh tell me Xman. Why's a catholic school called a catholic school again?

How many muslim kids you reckon there are in a sydney catholic school? Any refugees ya reckon? What about kids of families who require government income support?

Who's the douche?

No, there's many different types of independent religious schools KE catholic is only one of them.

[piesman2011]

Because RL is too physically demanding and more suited to kids who are in the public school system i.e. physically tough rather than poncy spoon fed upturned nosed lads who've only recently completed their toilet training. Comprehende stewie?

That's just brilliant Dr phil. IMO union looks the tougher sport to me. They tackle and dont let the guy up, while 5 guys play stacks on. With RL they stopped the players from getting a run up to tackle them and about 2 seconds after the tackle the ref says ok that's enough guys let him up now, we dont want him to start crying.

[pookus]

Generalising? No I dont think so pal. I'm coming from real experience and me thinks you know it, otherwise you'd provide something of more substance than your reactionary and and "prove it" rubbish.

Facts are private schools, their staff and students do not reflect the diverse social, economic, cultural and religious makeup of the Australian society as well as public schools do. In fact private schools are about as far off reflecting this country's status as you can get. They are often elitist and conservative institutions which thus produce a narrow educational environment and experience and perpetuate and increase the power and resource divide between this nations wealthy and poor.

Prove me wrong Xman ya silly dikkwad.

Your view is very antiquated my friend.At least a third of our children go to private schooling surely this is a fair representation of society.Now we can argue your socialistic views all you like but lets agree not to take on the argument between left and right.There are better forums for that.But if you think that league is advantaged by not playing in private schools then you are dreaming.There are many different essays relating to this on line but basically they all lead the same way.The autonomy of private schools allows them to employ better teachers and world class processes.The public system is bogged down in bureaucracy.I went to public school in the middle of the western suburbs of melbourne and though we had a shit load of fun and I wouldnt change it,it was not what I wanted for mine.Education was not the priority,fun was.lol

[King-Eliagh]

Antiquated no. One who thinks a third of our population who have the choice to go to private schooling simply because they are part of the economically advantaged can be representative of society is one who has the antiquated view.

I dont think league is advantaged by not playing in private schools you silly fool. I think private school children receive a narrow educational experience in terms of understanding the society in which they belong. I'm saying private schools are disadvantaged by their poncy disregard of RL, a sport, which by the way is producing far superior athletes to RU and marngrook. As I've argued before, where are the professional converts from the AFL and ARU to RL?

[Stewie]

Why would an AFL player convert to RL? They would only get less money and may turn out to be shit at the sport, like Izzy was shit at AR's.

[pookus]

Antiquated no. One who thinks a third of our population who have the choice to go to private schooling simply because they are part of the economically advantaged can be representative of society is one who has the antiquated view.

I dont think league is advantaged by not playing in private schools you silly fool. I think private school children receive a narrow educational experience in terms of understanding the society in which they belong. I'm saying private schools are disadvantaged by their poncy disregard of RL, a sport, which by the way is producing far superior athletes to RU and marngrook. As I've argued before, where are the professional converts from the AFL and ARU to RL?

See now your talking nonsense.Your the only person Ive ever come across that thinks private school kids are disadvantaged Next time you need a lawyer :D check what school he went to.I think hed have some idea how the world works.Do you believe these kids live under a rock.1 in 3 tells you that they dont only belong to the elite.I agree that these kids should be able to play league as well but thats an argument between you and the rahrahs.What im saying is because they dont for whatever reason League is disadvantaged.Maybe your new RahRah boss can have a word to some of his old alumni.And maybe you shouldnt use issy as an example he showed his athletic ability was not up to it yet he starred at your game.

[King-Eliagh]

Private school kids are advantaged and disadvantaged pookus. With the system we have in place, sure, they can walk on into their lawyer positions. But they can more easily become narrow minded tools, simply because of the outrageous restrictive fees associated with the entry into the school. Yes other schools such as catholic schools are somewhat less expensive however they too are narrowed in their ethos and culture, and therefore recruiting and producing students of the same ilk.

The public schools are far more representative of this nation, its just highly unfortunate they dont receive the government funding and support they require.

Otherwise pookus you're right, all kids should have the right to play RL. The most physically tough and demanding footy code

[pookus]

Cant disagree with much here and the fact that I have to send my son to private school annoys the shit out of me.But as I said the public system is cattle trucked and I am now positive that my son is recieving a better education than the kids in the public system.Its my job to make sure he stays grounded.Now many might come out of the system as fully fledged knobs but they are the knobs who run the world,like it or not. All kids should have the right to play all sports.But we can debate all day on which sport produces the better sportsman.One measure might be how many guys have played cricket for Australia(I love cricket)and played the respective codes. League=2(ray lindwall and Herbie collins)
AFL=34 including Keith Miller,The great Keith Miller Australias greatest all rounder,wearer of the big V in rep footy and war hero.A hero of mine.Ricky ponting also played state footy as a junior.

[Xman]

Private school kids are advantaged and disadvantaged pookus. With the system we have in place, sure, they can walk on into their lawyer positions. But they can more easily become narrow minded tools, simply because of the outrageous restrictive fees associated with the entry into the school. Yes other schools such as catholic schools are somewhat less expensive however they too are narrowed in their ethos and culture, and therefore recruiting and producing students of the same ilk.

The public schools are far more representative of this nation, its just highly unfortunate they dont receive the government funding and support they require.

Otherwise pookus you're right, all kids should have the right to play RL. The most physically tough and demanding footy code

We're only talking about rugby states.

ARs is played in schools from all socioeconomic ranges in AFL states. Its the great Australian game that unites people from all races, beliefs, and backgrounds.

[pookus]

Private school kids are advantaged and disadvantaged pookus. With the system we have in place, sure, they can walk on into their lawyer positions. But they can more easily become narrow minded tools, simply because of the outrageous restrictive fees associated with the entry into the school. Yes other schools such as catholic schools are somewhat less expensive however they too are narrowed in their ethos and culture, and therefore recruiting and producing students of the same ilk.

The public schools are far more representative of this nation, its just highly unfortunate they dont receive the government funding and support they require.

Otherwise pookus you're right, all kids should have the right to play RL. The most physically tough and demanding footy code

We're only talking about rugby states.

ARs is played in schools from all socioeconomic ranges in AFL states. Its the great Australian game that unites people from all races, beliefs, and backgrounds.

This is very true X as I said before its a league,rahrah problem

[King-Eliagh]

Its the great Australian game that unites people from all races, beliefs, and backgrounds.

As long as they have one white parent?