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This is fantastic! It's about time New South Welshmen are starting to realise that this is our only native and national sport. It's great to see more people in NSW playing the real Greatest Game of All.

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Its just another example of headline whoring from the VFL

it means less then zip
a story of note would be a school in Western Sydney paid their own money to have vicky kicky posts up.. due to demand

somehow I don't think we'll be seeing any stories like that .. anytime soon :cool:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Its just another example of headline whoring from the VFL

it means less then zip
a story of note would be a school in Western Sydney paid their own money to have vicky kicky posts up.. due to demand

somehow I don't think we'll be seeing any stories like that .. anytime soon :cool:
but but but :lol:
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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Its just another example of headline whoring from the VFL

it means less then zip
a story of note would be a school in Western Sydney paid their own money to have vicky kicky posts up.. due to demand

somehow I don't think we'll be seeing any stories like that .. anytime soon :cool:
but but but :lol:
bribing schools in NSW the ACT & QLD to have their silly game conduct clinics that will deliver them ....no players
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fudging the participation numbers of players in these states ..... its just another year for the VFL :wink:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Its just another example of headline whoring from the VFL

it means less then zip
a story of note would be a school in Western Sydney paid their own money to have vicky kicky posts up.. due to demand

somehow I don't think we'll be seeing any stories like that .. anytime soon :cool:
but but but :lol:
bribing schools in NSW the ACT & QLD to have their silly game conduct clinics that will deliver them ....no players
&
fudging the participation numbers of players in these states ..... its just another year for the VFL :wink:
:lol: :lol: bribing :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: fudging :lol: :lol:

But but but
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piesman2011 wrote:
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This is fantastic! It's about time New South Welshmen are starting to realise that this is our only native and national sport. It's great to see more people in NSW playing the real Greatest Game of All.
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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
but but but :lol:
bribing schools in NSW the ACT & QLD to have their silly game conduct clinics that will deliver them ....no players
&
fudging the participation numbers of players in these states ..... its just another year for the VFL :wink:
:lol: :lol: bribing :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: fudging :lol: :lol:

But but but
theres only one thing more certain then the bribing & fudging in the VFL
the denial & delusion from its brain washed fans :wink:

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More like your paranoia! :lol:
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Xman wrote:
More like your paranoia! :lol:
Battle of the codes heats up in Sydney's west as Western Sydney Wanderers, GWS Giants stake claim.................................(Wanderers have staked there claim to a area that has always loved Football, GWS are ring ins and have no place in the area)....... :lol: :lol: :lol:

This derby will never be settled on the field but it is arguably the most intriguing battle Australian football will ever see.

It is the tale of two football codes - one is global football while the other is Australian-made.

Western Sydney Wanderers v Greater Western Sydney Giants, Australian Football League v Football Federation Australia....(No contest Wanderers no money no marketing less then 6 months and have a crowd average of over 10k while the GWS midgets and the AFL have spent millions and had 2 years to organize this team and get locals on side, yet can only average 6k crowds)................... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This sports turf war is played out west of Sydney nearly 50km from Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Introducing the Wanderers, the A-League's newest club, to the people of western Sydney was a walk in the park. But selling the AFL's Giants - the Australian game's newest club - to the area is as hard as selling ice to an Eskimo. This will be the largest money wasting exercise of any code in this countries history........ =D> =D>
The Wanderers were born last May, the Giants were founded in 2009.

Both clubs have targeted greater western Sydney as their sports hubs.

The western Sydney area is Australia's third largest economy behind Sydney and Melbourne.

The area houses 2.02 million people, a population larger than South Australia.

By 2036 about 2.96 million will live there.

About 30 per cent of the people have migrated to the area from other countries, more than 70 languages are spoken and about 30 per cent of the people are currently under the age of 24.

Western Sydney has been a breeding ground for the most famous Socceroos since coach Rale Rasic led Australia to the 1974 FIFA World Cup in West Germany.

Harry Kewell, Tim Cahill, Mark Schwarzer, Mark Bosnich, Paul Okon, Zeljko Kalac, Steve Corica and current Wanderers coach Tony Popovic all grew up and learnt their football in western Sydney before making their mark abroad.
(That is correct Football heartland and a team in the west was always going to be a success. No need to spend millions the locals can relate to this team immediately, no need to poach other codes players for cheap publicity the locals will spread the word about WSW.) =D> =D>

The AFL on the other hand has a 20-year plan to make western Sydney a production line for the Australian game.

There's no doubt the universal language for the growth area is football.......................(Wrong League has a bigger presence then Football in the Area but football is 2nd and daylight 3rd).

But which one are punters flocking to? Which football will survive?

Wanderers' executive chairman Lyall Gorman was born out west of Sydney in Bankstown where he played football and attended high school.

He helped grow Central Coast Mariners from an embryo in 2004 to a well-established community club armed with massive projects on the central coast of New South Wales.

He was promoted to head the A-League competition in 2010 before FFA put him in charge of an ambitious football project west of Sydney.

After the FFA made the announcement that a new western Sydney team will join the 2012-13 competition on May 26 last year, Gorman and his tight-knit small team had just 134 days before the new club made its A-League debut on October 6 against, ironically, the Mariners.

It was a 0-0 draw where 10,458 fans turned up at Parramatta Stadium.

The first block had been laid after the club's football foundations had been put down 133 years ago.

"Well, August 14, 1880 was the first game of football in western Sydney. It was played between two teams, the old Kings school and the club called the Wanderers, and its been the traditional heartland of football ever since," Gorman said.

"You know in this area immediate football association partners roughly have about 100,000 players within their ranks, they have major sporting schools.

"It's had a richer history since the 1970s with the national soccer league with Marconi, Sydney United, Parramatta and I've sort of taken the view we've been handed the baton.

"We stand on the shoulders of many pioneers before us who have put in a tremendous amount of work to embed the cultures and traditions of football in this region.

"Time was never our friend. These people working here are spending, from day one, seven days a week. Our staff are remarkable for their contribution and passion.

"Every single one of our staff all fit that same vision and culture.

"We've also been blessed with long-term sponsors and coach Tony Popovic has been locked in for a four-year term.

"We're all joined at the hip and four years will make or break this club.

"Our decision making is easy because we've got clarity of vision and culture.

"It either fits or it doesn't and the next opportunity is to consolidate where we are and take it to new levels."

Giants' chief executive David Matthews believes football, Aussie Rules and rugby league can live in harmony out west of Sydney and the fledgling AFL club would continue to reap rewards by capturing the region in a long-term plan.

( Oh yeah live in Harmony.............................Suddenly the AFL admin are realizing the enormity of the task ahead and now want to be friends...... :lol: :lol: Poach Issy Falou and lets call it a trues now shall we :lol: :lol: ..........................Go and get F__cked it is all out war on you singlet wearers and nothing will change that after the way you announced your arrival to the Western Suburbs of sydney......... [-X [-X )

The Giants played their first AFL season last year and had no inkling the FFA was set to invade the western turf with Wanderers after the death of Queensland club Gold Coast United.

FFA needed a 10th team not only to balance the A-League's fixtures but because a new TV rights deal was looming.

If FFA took nine teams to the negotiation table it's highly unlikely Fox Sports and SBS would have thrown about $160 million towards a four-year TV agreement.

Matthews has been in charge of the Giants for the past 14 months after he was part of the AFL executive for 14 years.

His Giants contract was extended for a further three-year term last October.

Matthews knows the club was positioned in an area that wasn't all that familiar with the Australian game.

"The point the AFL has made about the investment in greater western Sydney is that it's a generational investment," Matthews said.

"It's a long-term strategy.


"The Sydney Swans have been in Sydney for 30 years and the AFL has been investing in the development from an infrastructure and a community point from about 10 years.

"The oldest Auskick graduate is now about 18 here so there's this generation of families that we're connecting and coming through.

"The Wanderers introduction we understand the size of the market is one for all sports with rugby league here as well.

"We've got the problems that everyone has got in Australia, and that's getting kids off the couch and a lot of the kids that are playing are playing multiple sports.

"We need to collaborate with soccer, league and rugby union and what sport they choose and want to attend depends on the quality of the experience." :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Collaborate like poaching RL players collaborate................ :lol: :lol: The feeling i get from this lot is they are putting up the white flag already......... :lol: :lol:

But Gorman believes Wanderers will continue to set new standards for the area because of football tradition and the amount of new Australians arriving in the area already familiar with the world game.

"If you read the AFL they have a 20-year plan because what they don't have is a natural fit," Gorman said.

"It's a bit of a square peg in a round hole.

"They don't have the junior pipeline and a rich history whereas the western Sydney region has been crying out for its own national representation for a long, long time.

"We've been blessed with that and with seven wonderful football associations with whom we dedicate all of our energy trying to be the panacea of all the Sydney metropolitan area.


(That is correct the AFL are just a gimmick in this town nothing more, no history no junior talent to feed off nothing, oh and no local support after parading a QLD Maroon in front of us like we would care, but after it all we now see what the AFL are about, thanks AFLHQ for making our minds up for us.............. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"We've held seven fans forums before the club was born and listened to them and what they wanted us to represent and the values and culture would be."

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Another fear piece with poor stats as well (10K for WSW and 6K for the giants where the real giants stats in Sydney are well above 10K) written by a soccer jurno. Barely a mention of RL either, just comparing Aussie footy to soccer. Good to see Eels trying to twist it but failing badly. :lol: :lol:
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piesman2011 wrote:
Another fear piece with poor stats as well (10K for WSW and 6K for the giants where the real giants stats in Sydney are well above 10K) written by a soccer jurno. Barely a mention of RL either, just comparing Aussie footy to soccer. Good to see Eels trying to twist it but failing badly. :lol: :lol:
yes ... we all fear the midgets 8-[

:lol: :lol: :lol:

& why would they need to mention RL.... this is a piece about which code will win the battle of the minnows & live in RL's shadow in Western Sydney
& quite obviously the Wanderers ... with not even a fraction of the resources...... are pounding Vicky Kicky & the midgets into oblivion. I mean is there a starker example of how poorly the VFL's attempt at a new side in Western Sydney has been .... then the Wanderers.

Midgets ... not even good enough to be minnows :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
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Eels, show me when the AFL EVER claimed they were trying to take over Sydney? They have always stated they wished to coexist with other sports.

Your falling for the Sydney media's pretend codes war hook line and sinker. Funny how all these articles come out of Sydney. :lol:
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Eels, show me when the AFL EVER claimed they were trying to take over Sydney? They have always stated they wished to coexist with other sports.

Your falling for the Sydney media's pretend codes war hook line and sinker. Funny how all these articles come out of Sydney. :lol:
coexist
VFL.... we just want to coexist
oh .. & by the way NRL... we're going to poach some of your players for money you can't match & shove them down your throat
K ? :wink:
Funny how all these articles come out of Sydney.
ahhhh... this one came out of Adelaide
Marcus .. an ignorant niave cockhead :lol: :lol: :lol:
RL SOO II 4.194 Million veiwers
RL SOO I 4.068 Million
NRL GF 3.968 Million
VFL Grand Final 3.620 Million
SOO III 3.364 Million
NRL Prelim 2.219 Million
Kangaroos V NZ 1.214 Million

Sookerwhos V Japan 238K :lol:
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Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Eels, show me when the AFL EVER claimed they were trying to take over Sydney? They have always stated they wished to coexist with other sports.

Your falling for the Sydney media's pretend codes war hook line and sinker. Funny how all these articles come out of Sydney. :lol:
coexist
VFL.... we just want to coexist
oh .. & by the way NRL... we're going to poach some of your players for money you can't match & shove them down your throat
K ? :wink:
Funny how all these articles come out of Sydney.
ahhhh... this one came out of Adelaide
Marcus .. an ignorant niave cockhead :lol: :lol: :lol:
An article quoting people from Sydney west and about Sydneys west came out of Adelaide.... :lol:

Recruiting k hunt and izzy Falou was about promoting a game in a new market with known athletes. Did the NRL collapse by losing two players? :roll:
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Xman wrote:
Raiderdave wrote:
Xman wrote:
Eels, show me when the AFL EVER claimed they were trying to take over Sydney? They have always stated they wished to coexist with other sports.

Your falling for the Sydney media's pretend codes war hook line and sinker. Funny how all these articles come out of Sydney. :lol:
coexist
VFL.... we just want to coexist
oh .. & by the way NRL... we're going to poach some of your players for money you can't match & shove them down your throat
K ? :wink:
Funny how all these articles come out of Sydney.
ahhhh... this one came out of Adelaide
Marcus .. an ignorant niave cockhead :lol: :lol: :lol:
An article quoting people from Sydney west and about Sydneys west came out of Adelaide.... :lol:
Raiderdave doesn't understand that the various News Ltd publishers around the country can use each others stories and post them under their own name.
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