Wions post 5th consectutive loss

[Raiderdave]

Not once.

Not every seat at the nRL GF was full. :

or at yours .. dickbrain

but more then 10% short of capacity as the biggest vicky kicky crowd at the gabba was .. is 90K at the ggggggggggggg
or 72K at ANZ

neither is a sellout is it you utter tool ?
same as theres never been one at the gabba for the paddle pop wions

[Raiderdave]

We should be all good next year, with our membership figures ahead of last year figures :

yes 500 this year
499 this time last year

[Xman]

Not once.

Not every seat at the nRL GF was full. :

or at yours .. dickbrain

but more then 10% short of capacity as the biggest vicky kicky crowd at the gabba was .. is 90K at the ggggggggggggg
or 72K at ANZ

neither is a sellout is it you utter tool ?
same as theres never been one at the gabba for the paddle pop wions

The AFL GF is always a sellout, meaning the available tickets always sellout

[Raiderdave]

10000 more to brisbane games at on average 20 dollars a ticket (some are more expensive some are cheaper) X 11 games = about 2.2 million dollars. Not to mention the sales on more food (not sure if brisbane would get money from this) and merchandise. So that pretty much cancels out all of the debt. With AFL membership and ticket sale use to make the same amount of money as the last TV deal. Now it would be behind by quite a bit but it would still make up I estimate about 25% of the AFL revenue.

oh............. so they finish even .. to a small loss
but haven't been able to pay off any of the interest on the 10 million debt

so it grows by 600K .. to 10.6 Million

& anyway
theres no way an average ticket costs $20.... it would barely be $15

Wions
truly .. F'ed

Fuck me why do you give this picture book fan oxygen.Lions turned over 43 million dave dwarfing 80 percent of Nrl clubs.Its about revenue dave.If you knew anything youd know its harder to raise it than save it. Just look at the size of AFL staffing numbers and the facilities the players use.The more non profit orgs make they spend.Do you think the extra money NRL clubs will get will be banked.No dave theyll spend it on making the team better thats what they do.And on that how is the commision going.No draw,no ceo no eba for players,cant sell digital rights no deal for NZ what an incompetent bunch of flogs lol.Now i know youll come back with lies and pictures thats expeceted from the prepubescent.Not sure if you can read dave because after reading about canberras finances you can see that they as an org are 19 million in the hole.Oh and your pokies are about to be smashed.Ya killing them dave.Oh by the way that book your reading Ill save you the expense the little red caboose gets over the hill dave.

that would be lucky to beat ONE .. NRL club you dribbling moron
the wions figure includes gaming

all NRL clubs turnover at least 30 million in gaming ( panthers turned over 129 Million in 2011 ) & 12 million in football operations ...the Sharks being the smallest at around 42 Mill ..
the Broncos turned over 68 Million this year ... & posted a 5 million after tax profit
7.5 Million more then their inept .. hopelessly run cousins .. the wions
the Raiders 61 Million .. & a 3.4 Million after tax profit ( what the hell with yr reference to them )

where ever you're getting your masturbation material from ...its wrong
so pull yr pants up for a sec & get yr hand off it for once in yr life & read this


revenue has NOTHING to do with it
its profits that matter ... if you don't make em ... you die

you invest profits back into yr business ... but if you don't make em ... you can't
if you have debts ... you need to make profits that at least cover the interest on them so yr cost neutral ... or the debt grows as does the interest

the wions are F'ed
seriously .... going nowhere
very much like VFL in NSW & QLD

[Raiderdave]

Not every seat at the nRL GF was full. :

or at yours .. dickbrain

but more then 10% short of capacity as the biggest vicky kicky crowd at the gabba was .. is 90K at the ggggggggggggg
or 72K at ANZ

neither is a sellout is it you utter tool ?
same as theres never been one at the gabba for the paddle pop wions

The AFL GF is always a sellout, meaning the available tickets always sellout

so is ours F wit
but its never more then 10% below capacity .. as any sellout isn't

[Xman]

oh............. so they finish even .. to a small loss
but haven't been able to pay off any of the interest on the 10 million debt

so it grows by 600K .. to 10.6 Million

& anyway
theres no way an average ticket costs $20.... it would barely be $15

Wions
truly .. F'ed

Fuck me why do you give this picture book fan oxygen.Lions turned over 43 million dave dwarfing 80 percent of Nrl clubs.Its about revenue dave.If you knew anything youd know its harder to raise it than save it. Just look at the size of AFL staffing numbers and the facilities the players use.The more non profit orgs make they spend.Do you think the extra money NRL clubs will get will be banked.No dave theyll spend it on making the team better thats what they do.And on that how is the commision going.No draw,no ceo no eba for players,cant sell digital rights no deal for NZ what an incompetent bunch of flogs lol.Now i know youll come back with lies and pictures thats expeceted from the prepubescent.Not sure if you can read dave because after reading about canberras finances you can see that they as an org are 19 million in the hole.Oh and your pokies are about to be smashed.Ya killing them dave.Oh by the way that book your reading Ill save you the expense the little red caboose gets over the hill dave.

that would be lucky to beat ONE .. NRL club you dribbling moron
the wions figure includes gaming

all NRL clubs turnover at least 30 million in gaming ( panthers turned over 129 Million in 2011 ) & 12 million in football operations ...the Sharks being the smallest at around 42 Mill ..
the Broncos turned over 68 Million this year ... & posted a 5 million after tax profit
7.5 Million more then their inept .. hopelessly run cousins .. the wions
the Raiders 61 Million .. & a 3.4 Million after tax profit ( what the hell with yr reference to them )

where ever you're getting your masturbation material from ...its wrong
so pull yr pants up for a sec & get yr hand off it for once in yr life & read this


revenue has NOTHING to do with it
its profits that matter ... if you don't make em ... you die

you invest profits back into yr business ... but if you don't make em ... you can't
if you have debts ... you need to make profits that at least cover the interest on them so yr cost neutral ... or the debt grows as does the interest

the wions are F'ed
seriously .... going nowhere
very much like VFL in NSW & QLD

BS

You've been caught out for this shit repeatedly!

Seriously, when will you learn?

[pookus]

oh............. so they finish even .. to a small loss
but haven't been able to pay off any of the interest on the 10 million debt

so it grows by 600K .. to 10.6 Million

& anyway
theres no way an average ticket costs $20.... it would barely be $15

Wions
truly .. F'ed

Fuck me why do you give this picture book fan oxygen.Lions turned over 43 million dave dwarfing 80 percent of Nrl clubs.Its about revenue dave.If you knew anything youd know its harder to raise it than save it. Just look at the size of AFL staffing numbers and the facilities the players use.The more non profit orgs make they spend.Do you think the extra money NRL clubs will get will be banked.No dave theyll spend it on making the team better thats what they do.And on that how is the commision going.No draw,no ceo no eba for players,cant sell digital rights no deal for NZ what an incompetent bunch of flogs lol.Now i know youll come back with lies and pictures thats expeceted from the prepubescent.Not sure if you can read dave because after reading about canberras finances you can see that they as an org are 19 million in the hole.Oh and your pokies are about to be smashed.Ya killing them dave.Oh by the way that book your reading Ill save you the expense the little red caboose gets over the hill dave.

that would be lucky to beat ONE .. NRL club you dribbling moron
the wions figure includes gaming

all NRL clubs turnover at least 30 million in gaming ( panthers turned over 129 Million in 2011 ) & 12 million in football operations ...the Sharks being the smallest at around 42 Mill ..
the Broncos turned over 68 Million this year ... & posted a 5 million after tax profit
7.5 Million more then their inept .. hopelessly run cousins .. the wions
the Raiders 61 Million .. & a 3.4 Million after tax profit ( what the hell with yr reference to them )

where ever you're getting your masturbation material from ...its wrong
so pull yr pants up for a sec & get yr hand off it for once in yr life & read this


revenue has NOTHING to do with it
its profits that matter ... if you don't make em ... you die

you invest profits back into yr business ... but if you don't make em ... you can't
if you have debts ... you need to make profits that at least cover the interest on them so yr cost neutral ... or the debt grows as does the interest

the wions are F'ed
seriously .... going nowhere
very much like VFL in NSW & QLD

Do you really expect us to swallow this BS dave.The leagues clubs and the footy clubs are different entities you fool.Take this away and all your clubs lose money.Your dear little club is a joke.10000 members in a city of 500000 i.Come and see us when your club can make a million dollar profit without pokies like the Kangaroos. No stadium,no fans,no success canberra is no bigger than port melbourne in the VFA.You value a company on turn over and reach dave the ability to raise funds.The NRL is truly in the AFL's shadow when you weigh up these simple facts.Hundreds of millions behind.And read the PDF dave Raiders group has 19 million in liabilities fact.See the problem is you want to confuse the owners with the club.Lets use chelsea as an example.Abromovic one of the richest men in the world and his group one of the most profitable but chelsea have made a loss every year.Now we dont consider the blues a profitable club just because its owner makes money.Same as league.The leagues clubs make money the football club does not.They are second rate operations playing out of second rate venues surviving on the grubbiest income of all.Like all decent people I hope the scourge of the poker machine is coming to an end but I suppose most league types dont mind seeing the poor reamed so they stay afloat.

[piesman2011]

when will you singlet wearing merkins realise ... crowds are not everything
they represent only a fraction of any clubs overall turnover

if the paddle pop wions had played ok this year & won a few more games & increased their crowds by 50% to 30,000 this year ( so an extra 10K a game )
they'd still have posted a 1 million dollar plus ... LOSS

its proof definitive.... despite Xmans attempts at finance 101 from lar lar land ... that revenue results are not the issue for football clubs
its this .. up against costs

if your costs are out of control , if you can't manage them... like most VFL clubs are experiencing ... its troubled times ahead
troubled indeed

10000 more to brisbane games at on average 20 dollars a ticket (some are more expensive some are cheaper) X 11 games = about 2.2 million dollars. Not to mention the sales on more food (not sure if brisbane would get money from this) and merchandise. So that pretty much cancels out all of the debt. With AFL membership and ticket sale use to make the same amount of money as the last TV deal. Now it would be behind by quite a bit but it would still make up I estimate about 25% of the AFL revenue.

oh............. so they finish even .. to a small loss
but haven't been able to pay off any of the interest on the 10 million debt

so it grows by 600K .. to 10.6 Million

& anyway
theres no way an average ticket costs $20.... it would barely be $15

Wions
truly .. F'ed

Additional Gabba ticketing information
2012 Gabba ticket prices
Ticket Type General Admission Standard Prime Premium Gold Class
Adult $25.50 $37.00 $50.00 $61.00 $105.00
Concession* $17.50 $30.00 $42.00 $54.00 NA
Child** $8.00 $10.00 $10.00 $10.00 NA
Family*** $51.00 $74.00 $100.00 $122.00 NA


http://www.lions.com.au/match%20tickets ... fault.aspx

At least an average of $20 and thats counting that half the people at the game are kids, which I am sure they probabaly are not. I also believe that the loss included servicing of debt. This is from the brisbane lions website.

The figure resulted after depreciation and interest costs, predominantly relating to our Club’s major long-term investment, the LIONS@springwood entertainment venue.

http://www.lions.com.au/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx

So the 600K interest wold be included into the 2.5 million dollar loss. That is of course if you believe them which I believe Dave you probabaly dont.

[King-Eliagh]

We should be all good next year, with our membership figures ahead of last year figures and a possible finals birth we will be booming

Possible finals birth!

Good one!

[piesman2011]

We should be all good next year, with our membership figures ahead of last year figures and a possible finals birth we will be booming

Possible finals birth!

Good one!

They will finish between 6th and 10th in my opinion. but they could also have an Adelaide or West Coast year and finish top 4 you never know.

[piesman2011]

We should be all good next year, with our membership figures ahead of last year figures and a possible finals birth we will be booming

Possible finals birth!

Good one!

They will finish between 6th and 10th in my opinion. but they could also have an Adelaide or West Coast year and finish around the top 4 or bomb out you never know.

[Raiderdave]

10000 more to brisbane games at on average 20 dollars a ticket (some are more expensive some are cheaper) X 11 games = about 2.2 million dollars. Not to mention the sales on more food (not sure if brisbane would get money from this) and merchandise. So that pretty much cancels out all of the debt. With AFL membership and ticket sale use to make the same amount of money as the last TV deal. Now it would be behind by quite a bit but it would still make up I estimate about 25% of the AFL revenue.

oh............. so they finish even .. to a small loss
but haven't been able to pay off any of the interest on the 10 million debt

so it grows by 600K .. to 10.6 Million

& anyway
theres no way an average ticket costs $20.... it would barely be $15

Wions
truly .. F'ed

Additional Gabba ticketing information
2012 Gabba ticket prices
Ticket Type General Admission Standard Prime Premium Gold Class
Adult $25.50 $37.00 $50.00 $61.00 $105.00
Concession* $17.50 $30.00 $42.00 $54.00 NA
Child** $8.00 $10.00 $10.00 $10.00 NA
Family*** $51.00 $74.00 $100.00 $122.00 NA


http://www.lions.com.au/match%20tickets ... fault.aspx

At least an average of $20 and thats counting that half the people at the game are kids, which I am sure they probabaly are not. I also believe that the loss included servicing of debt. This is from the brisbane lions website.

The figure resulted after depreciation and interest costs, predominantly relating to our Club’s major long-term investment, the LIONS@springwood entertainment venue.

http://www.lions.com.au/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx

So the 600K interest wold be included into the 2.5 million dollar loss. That is of course if you believe them which I believe Dave you probabaly dont.

... remember theres still 12K empty seats in 30K crowd at the gabba & the cheap seats go first , 2/3 would b the cheapest category
& then theres freebies .... the VFL hand out thousands in the Nthn states ... bringing gate receipts down
the average price of a seat would as I said .. be barely $15

X 10,000 X 11.....still a 1.6 Million loss with a big upturn in success , which is unlikely to occur
debt grows to 11 Million in 2014

wions .... f'ed

[King-Eliagh]

We should be all good next year, with our membership figures ahead of last year figures and a possible finals birth we will be booming

Possible finals birth!

Good one!

They will finish between 6th and 10th in my opinion. but they could also have an Adelaide or West Coast year and finish top 4 you never know.

Oh pies, me thinks you're gunna be eating those words come september 2013. While there's plenty of basketcases the lions can beat to notch some wins up, they will remain positioned between 11-18 on the ladder. And please note that 11th in the AFL these days is akin to about 16th in days gone by...such is the lopsided nature of the present comp.

[piesman2011]

Have to agree to disagree on this one. I actually think the average seat would cost about $25 (averaging adults and kids), but I thought I would go with the cheaper end to stop any fighting. Even if we went with your $15 pricing. The average person would probabaly spend $10+ on food per match ($5 profit) and $25 dollars a year on merchandise ($20 profit). which would make up $550000+ for food and $200000 on caps/gurneys/scarfs/footy records etc bought at the games.

[piesman2011]

Possible finals birth!

Good one!

They will finish between 6th and 10th in my opinion. but they could also have an Adelaide or West Coast year and finish top 4 you never know.

Oh pies, me thinks you're gunna be eating those words come september 2013. While there's plenty of basketcases the lions can beat to notch some wins up, they will remain positioned between 11-18 on the ladder. And please note that 11th in the AFL these days is akin to about 16th in days gone by...such is the lopsided nature of the present comp.

Often I am left looking stupid after making a prediction. Wont be the first or last time it will happen. What you can say it that I have watched the Lions this year and my guess has a little education behind it. They beat 2 top 4 sides in Brisbane this year and have some good young talent. They should improve but you could have said the same about Melbourne last year as well.