The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL

[Drac]

1) to simply say that violence is everywhere, so it's okay, is ridiculous. Murder happens quite a lot, it doesn't mean it's okay when someone commits murder .he 'but everyone else was doing it' excuse doesn't work once you leave primary school

2) Throwing punches isn't tough. Running back with the flight of the ball is tough. Compare Uate in State of Origin this year with Jordan Lewis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2lPxItw-30

I've never seen anything softer than Uate and his pal both being too afraid to catch a ball.

3) Melbourne played in the GF, on a Sunday night. Of course people watched. Answer me this very simple question: If people in Melbourne are so desperate for the toughness of NSWRL, why did Storm games ALL year rate lower in Melbourne than Swans games in Sydney? Why is that? How can that be?

4) end of wink?

[King-Eliagh]

I've seen this jordan lewis flick before. It's not courage you silly goose. You and the commentators are douchebags. Jordan lewis had no idea what was confronting him, courage occurs when you know whats coming and consciously put yourself into the mix. That's what courage is. If anything this vid shows us a poor kick along with poor vision from jordan lewis and a potential cheap shot from the guy who went in.

The fact of the matter is violence is a human behaviour, it is innate within us all and this will remain forever. In the AFL the players now resort to cheap shots due to the far too restrictive rulings on violence. In the process the game no longer teaches young men to stick up for themselves and their friends and as raider suggests, thousands are flocking to league.

[Xman]

I've seen this jordan lewis flick before. It's not courage you silly goose. You and the commentators are douchebags. Jordan lewis had no idea what was confronting him, courage occurs when you know whats coming and consciously put yourself into the mix. That's what courage is. If anything this vid shows us a poor kick along with poor vision from jordan lewis and a potential cheap shot from the guy who went in.

The fact of the matter is violence is a human behaviour, it is innate within us all and this will remain forever. In the AFL the players now resort to cheap shots due to the far too restrictive rulings on violence. In the process the game no longer teaches young men to stick up for themselves and their friends and as raider suggests, thousands are flocking to league.

More evidence youve never played ARs!

Everyone who has played ARs knows it takes courage to put your body on the line and leave yourself open to potential injury to make a contest. Whether you know for sure its coming is irrelevant. If you blindly peruse a ball in a potentially dangerous situation thats courage.

Violence maybe an instinctive human response to conflict but its uncivilised and we have laws that are specifically designed to outlaw such acts.

Cheap shots in any sport, whether verbal or physical, are a test of self control and concentration. They're harmless. If you're silly enough to react physically you deserve to be penalised.

As for thousands turning to league.... .....oh please! people are moving away from the bogan sport with its uncivilised nature. even the NRl realise if they continue down the same path of brutality they'll lose fans. Why do you think they're examining the shoulder charge? Why do you think they're seriously considering the ramifications of concussion?

[Drac]

I've seen this jordan lewis flick before. It's not courage you silly goose. You and the commentators are douchebags. Jordan lewis had no idea what was confronting him, courage occurs when you know whats coming and consciously put yourself into the mix. That's what courage is. If anything this vid shows us a poor kick along with poor vision from jordan lewis and a potential cheap shot from the guy who went in.

The fact of the matter is violence is a human behaviour, it is innate within us all and this will remain forever. In the AFL the players now resort to cheap shots due to the far too restrictive rulings on violence. In the process the game no longer teaches young men to stick up for themselves and their friends and as raider suggests, thousands are flocking to league.

1) he knew
2) thousands are flocking to League? Storm average less people this year than they did in their first season http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/melbourne.html

[Raiderdave]

wow
the ignorance to their game being softer then soccer or netball is astounding

smarter Victorians are seeing this
its one thing to stamp out thuggery .... our great game has done this
its another to turn it into a game with as much intesity as a pillow fight at a primary schoolgirls sleep ova

our game has not done this
its kept its essence ...

Victorian dads remember when the game they used to watch was a little bit tough at least
now its a sick joke

que RL ... tough as

[Striker]

Actually, El, the kids are flocking to AFL and soccer because mums and dads don't want them hurt. You're right - teaching young men to stick up for themselves is important and the only game capable of doing that above the age of 18 is League. Below that it's up to the parents and the schools, and at the moment we're bringing up a pack of wimps who only know cheap shots. Bullying. See where I'm going there?

[Xman]

wow
the ignorance to their game being softer then soccer or netball is astounding

smarter Victorians are seeing this
its one thing to stamp out thuggery .... our great game has done this
its another to turn it into a game with as much intesity as a pillow fight at a primary schoolgirls sleep ova

our game has not done this
its kept its essence ...

Victorian dads remember when the game they used to watch was a little bit tough at least
now its a sick joke

que RL ... tough as

yet has double the following......

its about sport not fighting. You want fightin, watch MMA or boxing.

[Raiderdave]

wow
the ignorance to their game being softer then soccer or netball is astounding

smarter Victorians are seeing this
its one thing to stamp out thuggery .... our great game has done this
its another to turn it into a game with as much intesity as a pillow fight at a primary schoolgirls sleep ova

our game has not done this
its kept its essence ...

Victorian dads remember when the game they used to watch was a little bit tough at least
now its a sick joke

que RL ... tough as

yet has double the following......

its about sport not fighting. You want fightin, watch MMA or boxing.

oh just lock the thread already why don't ya
yr doing about as well in here as the grand final thread ...... & we know what happens when you or another of yr singlet wearing mates aren't winning a debate

don't we ?

[Xman]

wow
the ignorance to their game being softer then soccer or netball is astounding

smarter Victorians are seeing this
its one thing to stamp out thuggery .... our great game has done this
its another to turn it into a game with as much intesity as a pillow fight at a primary schoolgirls sleep ova

our game has not done this
its kept its essence ...

Victorian dads remember when the game they used to watch was a little bit tough at least
now its a sick joke

que RL ... tough as

yet has double the following......

its about sport not fighting. You want fightin, watch MMA or boxing.

oh just lock the thread already why don't ya
yr doing about as well in here as the grand final thread ...... & we know what happens when you or another of yr singlet wearing mates aren't winning a debate

don't we ?

There aint no locked thread dopey

[Raiderdave]

yet has double the following......

its about sport not fighting. You want fightin, watch MMA or boxing.

oh just lock the thread already why don't ya
yr doing about as well in here as the grand final thread ...... & we know what happens when you or another of yr singlet wearing mates aren't winning a debate

don't we ?

There aint no locked thread dopey

now there isn't
but you addmited you did indeed lock it ..... end of

[Xman]

oh just lock the thread already why don't ya
yr doing about as well in here as the grand final thread ...... & we know what happens when you or another of yr singlet wearing mates aren't winning a debate

don't we ?

There aint no locked thread dopey

now there isn't
but you addmited you did indeed lock it ..... end of

I admit it was locked for 1 minute yep. I now know how to lock titles properly.

[King-Eliagh]

What was the need for locking the title?

[Xman]

What was the need for locking the title?

because it was wrong

[King-Eliagh]

I missed this event, how do you lock a title? Why would someone change a title? And what effect does locking a title have?

Oh and for the record. I'm coming up to my third season of marngrook. :D

[Drac]

Unfortunate to see the bad example set by NSWRL players is filetring down to the grass roots.

http://nrl.com.au/brawling-league-junio ... fault.aspx

Also very unfortunate to see supposedly respected Rugby League figures claiming that the subsequent bans were too harsh.

For head-stomping....