The Changing Nature of Violence in Rugby League and AFL

[King-Eliagh]

mmmkay YeH Xman you're right

"Lets stop all violence!"

ummmm in an inherently violent sport? > not gunna happen

[Xman]

mmmkay YeH Xman you're right

"Lets stop all violence!"

ummmm in an inherently violent sport? > not gunna happen

You still don't get it yet this coach does. He got it exactly right.

[King-Eliagh]

Do you think because you found one other dingbat with similar ideas to you that you're now right on this one Xman?

Some news for you. Dingbat simplistic humans are everywhere, all over the world. They come in all shapes and sizes and assume many different roles such as forum moderator, journalist and football coach.

A prominent dingbat is Allan Jones. His line of thinking rarely has any depth to it. He's a fan of blanket rulings and not taking contextual qualitative issues into account. You, him, helen lovejoy and mr mackey would have fun together at a party Xman.

[Xman]

Do you think because you found one other dingbat with similar ideas to you that you're now right on this one Xman?

Some news for you. Dingbat simplistic humans are everywhere, all over the world. They come in all shapes and sizes and assume many different roles such as forum moderator, journalist and football coach.

A prominent dingbat is Allan Jones. His line of thinking rarely has any depth to it. He's a fan of blanket rulings and not taking contextual qualitative issues into account. You, him, helen lovejoy and mr mackey would have fun together at a party Xman.

I dare say you're the one out of step here KE. I personally don't know a single person who thinks fighting in junior sport is ok. In fact the general opinion is the complete opposite.

[King-Eliagh]

A dingbat response. Hows about referring to what I'm actually arguing for for a change from your dingbat ways? Biffo is ok in junior sport when... you know my argument and what ive said, there's no need putting it forward again.

And ahhh i think the results of this poll tell us that prob 50percent of the population would agree with me, perhaps much more. If one believes biffo as a reaction to cases of severe injustice on the sports field is fine for adults then they are contradicting themselves if they think this shouldnt happen in the juniors, as striker has contradicted himself in this thread.

[Xman]

A dingbat response. Hows about referring to what I'm actually arguing for for a change from your dingbat ways? Biffo is ok in junior sport when... you know my argument and what ive said, there's no need putting it forward again.

And ahhh i think the results of this poll tell us that prob 50percent of the population would agree with me, perhaps much more. If one believes biffo as a reaction to cases of severe injustice on the sports field is fine for adults then they are contradicting themselves if they think this shouldnt happen in the juniors, as striker has contradicted himself in this thread.

"Biffo" is NEVER ok in any sport let alone Juniors!

Why do you think juniors are banned for being involved in fights? For the fun of it?

The community doesn't accept it. The organisers and administrators of junior sport dont accept it.

You're the odd one out and you shouldn't be let anywhere near junior sport!

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl ... 5778401395

A JUNIOR rugby league player was last night banned from the sport for 20 years after attacking another player during a vicious grand final brawl.

20yr ban, but its ok......

[King-Eliagh]

Hahaha Helen Lovejoy and Mr Mackey's lovechild Xman is back! No context or depth shown in his arguments whatsoever, its just "but but whaaaaaat about the children" and "violence is bad...mmmkay"

[Xman]

Hahaha Helen Lovejoy and Mr Mackey's lovechild Xman is back! No context or depth shown in his arguments whatsoever, its just "but but whaaaaaat about the children" and "violence is bad...mmmkay"

Says the advocate for junior brawls in RL

How proud you must be!

[King-Eliagh]

Yes I advocate for biffo as a reaction to and defence against violent acts which are injust, as in the case of Judd and his intention to dislocate a mans shoulder this year. As does our common law and those in society who arent dingbats. For children men and women alike.

Oh Xman, lemme ask. Are you against women doing self defence courses to protect themselves against a rapist using violence? Or would you prefer they used their telephone to call the appropriate policing organisation?

Answer the question now :D

[Xman]

Yes I advocate for biffo as a reaction to and defence against violent acts which are injust, as in the case of Judd and his intention to dislocate a mans shoulder this year. As does our common law and those in society who arent dingbats. For children men and women alike.

Oh Xman, lemme ask. Are you against women doing self defence courses to protect themselves against a rapist using violence? Or would you prefer they used their telephone to call the appropriate policing organisation?

Answer the question now :D

Well done!

In KEs world if a player is struck during a game, whether deliberate or not, he feels he has the right to retaliate. When he does other players get involved. Then the parents. Soon its a massive all in brawl with people injured. =D> =D> well done KE, exactly what you wanted, just so people feel they have the right to retaliate with violence!

In a civilised competition one kid may hit another, whether deliberate or not. Others know violence is not the answer and theyll be heavily penalised too if they retaliate. That should be the end of it. The player gets charged and banned. Everyone else gets on with the game.

[Striker]

That's not inconsistent, X! Are you saying that children can behave like adults? They're CHILDREN, your freaking fool!

They are. They get confused by mixed messages. They believe in leading by example, that actions speak louder than words. If their heros are allowed and even encouraged to use violence regularly then for them this is cool and they want to copy. You only have to read about the violence in junior RL, or watch the recent youtube videos to see what a massive problem the junior RL comps have.

Have you ever heard of the term "Do as I say. Don't do as I do."

Hopeless piece from the Roar. That comes from a coach who's given up. For God's sakes, it's JUNIOR FREAKING SPORT!!! They don't play under the same rules and nor should they! If players want to fight they have to play with the adults, or they won't be allowed to do it. If they can't take that then they're in the wrong game.

The NRL does a great job. It's a shame the same can't be said for the junior leagues sometimes. Let the adults do what they want within reason, and if that includes the biff then okay!! But children have to wait.

[Xman]

That's not inconsistent, X! Are you saying that children can behave like adults? They're CHILDREN, your freaking fool!

They are. They get confused by mixed messages. They believe in leading by example, that actions speak louder than words. If their heros are allowed and even encouraged to use violence regularly then for them this is cool and they want to copy. You only have to read about the violence in junior RL, or watch the recent youtube videos to see what a massive problem the junior RL comps have.

Have you ever heard of the term "Do as I say. Don't do as I do."

Hopeless piece from the Roar. That comes from a coach who's given up. For God's sakes, it's JUNIOR FREAKING SPORT!!! They don't play under the same rules and nor should they! If players want to fight they have to play with the adults, or they won't be allowed to do it. If they can't take that then they're in the wrong game.

The NRL does a great job. It's a shame the same can't be said for the junior leagues sometimes. Let the adults do what they want within reason, and if that includes the biff then okay!! But children have to wait.

Tell that to KE

Tell that the junior RL kids trying to copy their "heroes"

[Raiderdave]

its quite Simply really

the NRL players behave like normal human beings would in society
they fight each other occasionally
if they do they face the likelyhood of punishment ... as anyone would in society.

the numb of fights in an NRL game .... & I mean fights ... not when a few players come together for a bit of push & shove
probably 4 a year out of the 192 games played
30 years ago that would have been 4 a week
anyone suggesting the NRL & its predecessors.. the ARL & NSWRL .. have not cleaned our game up are twits not worth talking to
but our game has not sanitised itself to such an extent that is no longer itself .. that it has completely lost its essence

as I reported to forum members ... AFL fans are turning to our game for their weekly fix of toughness in ever growing numbers

they have had enough of the effeminate ... girly VFL
these players are expected to act .. unnaturally ... & be quite un mannly ... to be what males are not.. anywhere else in society

who could blame them
I have seen tougher female netballers on the court .. then VFL players poncing around on the field
soccer is tougher then this silly sport
its embarrasing

I can see dads in the sthn states who used to remember VFL when it was at least a little bit hard & manly
doing whats best for their sons & choosing a sport that will teach their boy to be a man
not a singlet wearing ponce

& more & more they are looking at the manliest sport there is .... Rugby League

[Drac]

its quite Simply really

the NRL players behave like normal human beings would in society
they fight each other occasionally
if they do they face the likelyhood of punishment ... as anyone would in society.

the numb of fights in an NRL game .... & I mean fights ... not when a few players come together for a bit of push & shove
probably 4 a year out of the 192 games played
30 years ago that would have been 4 a week
anyone suggesting the NRL & its predecessors.. the ARL & NSWRL .. have not cleaned our game up are twits not worth talking to
but our game has not sanitised itself to such an extent that is no longer itself .. that it has completely lost its essence

as I reported to forum members ... AFL fans are turning to our game for their weekly fix of toughness in ever growing numbers

they have had enough of the effeminate ... girly VFL
these players are expected to act .. unnaturally ... & be quite un mannly ... to be what males are not.. anywhere else in society

who could blame them
I have seen tougher female netballers on the court .. then VFL players poncing around on the field
soccer is tougher then this silly sport
its embarrasing

I can see dads in the sthn states who used to remember VFL when it was at least a little bit hard & manly
doing whats best for their sons & choosing a sport that will teach their boy to be a man
not a singlet wearing ponce

& more & more they are looking at the manliest sport there is .... Rugby League

Do you work at Jaycar? Normal, civilised human beings don't fight. They use words. Simpletons who can't argue adequately throw punches. To suggest that it's okay to have the occasional fight is ridiculous. Standards in society are higher than they are on a NSWRL field. If a man bit someone on the ear on the street, he'd get longer than 12 weeks that's for sure.

[Raiderdave]

its quite Simply really

the NRL players behave like normal human beings would in society
they fight each other occasionally
if they do they face the likelyhood of punishment ... as anyone would in society.

the numb of fights in an NRL game .... & I mean fights ... not when a few players come together for a bit of push & shove
probably 4 a year out of the 192 games played
30 years ago that would have been 4 a week
anyone suggesting the NRL & its predecessors.. the ARL & NSWRL .. have not cleaned our game up are twits not worth talking to
but our game has not sanitised itself to such an extent that is no longer itself .. that it has completely lost its essence

as I reported to forum members ... AFL fans are turning to our game for their weekly fix of toughness in ever growing numbers

they have had enough of the effeminate ... girly VFL
these players are expected to act .. unnaturally ... & be quite un mannly ... to be what males are not.. anywhere else in society

who could blame them
I have seen tougher female netballers on the court .. then VFL players poncing around on the field
soccer is tougher then this silly sport
its embarrasing

I can see dads in the sthn states who used to remember VFL when it was at least a little bit hard & manly
doing whats best for their sons & choosing a sport that will teach their boy to be a man
not a singlet wearing ponce

& more & more they are looking at the manliest sport there is .... Rugby League

Do you work at Jaycar? Normal, civilised human beings don't fight. They use words. Simpletons who can't argue adequately throw punches. To suggest that it's okay to have the occasional fight is ridiculous. Standards in society are higher than they are on a NSWRL field. If a man bit someone on the ear on the street, he'd get longer than 12 weeks that's for sure.

oh wot a wally u are

expectations may be higher
standards are not .... violence is everywhere
even in the **** states where its footballers take soft & girly to new levels each year

the NRL is still the hard tough game it always was ... with only an ounce of the violence on field
it hasn't sold its soul to the whining liberal agenda
you can be a great sport ... & still be as tough as teak ... dads want that in the sport their sons choose
like I said
sports fans down south want hard & tough
they are getting shirt lifters in singlets
thats why 800K tuned in.. in Melb to watch our GF

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