NRL to reap $1.2b from TV rights

[pookus]

And the fact that the Australian broadcasters valued your product 200 million less than ours says it all.You guys are talking numbers but look it up.Even after your cash bonanza you are around 160 -200 million short a year.Thats a lot of smackos.On top of that with the crap coverage in your new deal how do you hope to grow revenue.It will stay the same just like your ridiculous deal that allows you to watch 1 thats right 1 live game on free to air for the next five years.The commish has his finger firmly in the fans date and you blokes can say is thank you sir can I have another.

[pussycat]

Hocus , That so called 'crap coverage' easily accounted for your coverage.

Your package includes 1.5m from Telsta (who we have yet to talk with). And wether you like it or not the Warriors are part of the NRL, and part of our revenue stream.

Wether mine is bigger than yours is a school yard argument. The real point is the NRL have seen a more than 100% increase , on its last contract. This pattern will continue , resulting in the AFL being blown out of the water . Only seen on the ABC of a Saturday afternoon.

And yes, mine is bigger than yours!

[pookus]

Hocus , That so called 'crap coverage' easily accounted for your coverage.

Your package includes 1.5m from Telsta (who we have yet to talk with). And wether you like it or not the Warriors are part of the NRL, and part of our revenue stream.

Wether mine is bigger than yours is a school yard argument. The real point is the NRL have seen a more than 100% increase , on its last contract. This pattern will continue , resulting in the AFL being blown out of the water . Only seen on the ABC of a Saturday afternoon.

And yes, mine is bigger than yours!

You quote nothing factual just high hopes.Who cares if you got more your still a long long way behind.The facts say so.And how can your coverage account for every game live.Your kidding yourself.But you continue to tell yourself how well you have done.The AFL took less so the fan can have more.You my friend got sold out completely and still finished behind.

[pussycat]

You quote nothing factual just high hopes.Who cares if you got more your still a long long way behind.The facts say so.And how can your coverage account for every game live.Your kidding yourself.But you continue to tell yourself how well you have done.The AFL took less so the fan can have more.You my friend got sold out completely and still finished behind.

1) Were yet to deal with Telstra or NZ TV!

2) A current TV contract sees us outrate you on FTA and PayTV!

3) Our contract increased over 100% on our last contract!

4) Mine is bigger than yours

There all facts Hocus.


The AFL took less is rubbish. They scrounged every cent they could get. Ten are no longer interested, its been a financial disaster for 7 and Fox. How much do you think you will get next contact? The NRL are the ones that settled on less for the benefit of the game.

But like all AFL fans continue to ignore them and do your impression of a mushroom.

[Xman]

You quote nothing factual just high hopes.Who cares if you got more your still a long long way behind.The facts say so.And how can your coverage account for every game live.Your kidding yourself.But you continue to tell yourself how well you have done.The AFL took less so the fan can have more.You my friend got sold out completely and still finished behind.

1) Were yet to deal with Telstra or NZ TV!

2) A current TV contract sees us outrate you on FTA and PayTV!

3) Our contract increased over 100% on our last contract!

4) Mine is bigger than yours

There all facts Hocus.


The AFL took less is rubbish. They scrounged every cent they could get. Ten are no longer interested, its been a financial disaster for 7 and Fox. How much do you think you will get next contact? The NRL are the ones that settled on less for the benefit of the game.

But like all AFL fans continue to ignore them and do your impression of a mushroom.

1. Youve already sold some online rights to fox. Why would Telstra pay as much if they don't have exclusivity?

2. BS despite a longer season, shorter games, more paytv subs, and far less concurrent games you'll lose this years cummulative ratings by a mile.

3. Channel 9 were desperate and ch10 Realized they were hopeless without sport after being challenged in the ratings by sbs

4. Your head maybe

5. I showed an article that said ch9 were due to lose millions on the NRL deal each year.

6. NRLs FTA deal is a joke. You may have taken money in the deal but far less exposure due to poor FTA coverage, especially for all teams except the broncos, will mean each team struggles for revenue opportunities. Even the broncos earn half what ost AFL sides do, an a quarter of Collingwoods annual revenue.

[pookus]

You quote nothing factual just high hopes.Who cares if you got more your still a long long way behind.The facts say so.And how can your coverage account for every game live.Your kidding yourself.But you continue to tell yourself how well you have done.The AFL took less so the fan can have more.You my friend got sold out completely and still finished behind.

1) Were yet to deal with Telstra or NZ TV!

2) A current TV contract sees us outrate you on FTA and PayTV!

3) Our contract increased over 100% on our last contract!

4) Mine is bigger than yours

There all facts Hocus.


The AFL took less is rubbish. They scrounged every cent they could get. Ten are no longer interested, its been a financial disaster for 7 and Fox. How much do you think you will get next contact? The NRL are the ones that settled on less for the benefit of the game.

But like all AFL fans continue to ignore them and do your impression of a mushroom.

Is this your response. Really your obviously challenged .Even if you get another 150 million cash which you won't your still a hundred million behind fact. You've been smashed this year on ratings cumlative and head to head fact. Who cares how much you got last time just shows how inept the controllers of the game have been and is no indication of what you'll get next time fact. The AFL took significantly less to ensure the fan was best looked after. Your coverage compared to ours is pathetic. The fan got nothing from this deal actually lost your grand final that so many fought for . So you can think you did well but ask yourself why do AFL fans get so much more. Must be upsetting to realise you are valued in Australia less.And that is the facts.

[enarelle]

Ok so just add in the $150m it will cost the AFL over the next 5 years to create the two extra teams to provide the extra game and you will see how the two codes align.

Reality is the AFL crew could not envisage league getting anywhere near their deal and shock horror when it did they now have to fight for every dollar to stay in front. So much for the all consuming AFL as proven by the value of their TV deal. At best they will finish maybe 10% ahead on revenue but the NRL did not spend an extra cent to get a 250% improvement on their previous deal as opposed to the AFLs tens of millions. Bottom line is that the NRL did not have to buy the "love" of the TV execs.

[Xman]

Ok so just add in the $150m it will cost the AFL over the next 5 years to create the two extra teams to provide the extra game and you will see how the two codes align.

Reality is the AFL crew could not envisage league getting anywhere near their deal and shock horror when it did they now have to fight for every dollar to stay in front. So much for the all consuming AFL as proven by the value of their TV deal. At best they will finish maybe 10% ahead on revenue but the NRL did not spend an extra cent to get a 250% improvement on their previous deal as opposed to the AFLs tens of millions. Bottom line is that the NRL did not have to buy the "love" of the TV execs.

Again, when clubs and other revenue streams are included the AFL get more than double the NRLs yearly revenue, even including their new deal. The NRL desperately need their TV money, hence they settled for such atrocious TV coverage for 5 years. The AFL have revenue streams from multiple sources. They have even saved a substantial amount of cash for expansion from pervious years of profits, and have entered in to fantastic stadium arrangments with both new clubs to ensure they are profitable in the near future.

Why do you think the NRL were after the AFLs 2ic so badly. We do it all better.

[enarelle]

Unfortunately the point related to the question of the TV dollars between the two codes. No one will argue that the AFL had a big advantage post Super League world in a range of areas. The biggest was TV. From a NRL perspective 1 down now onto the next one/s. The times they are a changing.

[Xman]

Unfortunately the point related to the question of the TV dollars between the two codes. No one will argue that the AFL had a big advantage post Super League world in a range of areas. The biggest was TV. From a NRL perspective 1 down now onto the next one/s. The times they are a changing.

No, crowds and members is the biggest.
I suppose we give you something to aspire to.

[Raiderdave]

Again, when clubs and other revenue streams are included the AFL get more than double the NRLs yearly revenue, even including their new deal. The NRL desperately need their TV money, hence they settled for such atrocious TV coverage for 5 years. The AFL have revenue streams from multiple sources. They have even saved a substantial amount of cash for expansion from pervious years of profits, and have entered in to fantastic stadium arrangments with both new clubs to ensure they are profitable in the near future.

Why do you think the NRL were after the AFLs 2ic so badly. We do it all better.

its not even close to being double D head
&
revenue means squat anyway .. its whats left after the bills are paid

answer
NRL ...from 2013.... plenty
VFL ... ahhhhh ...... ..... 2 bob

[Xman]

Again, when clubs and other revenue streams are included the AFL get more than double the NRLs yearly revenue, even including their new deal. The NRL desperately need their TV money, hence they settled for such atrocious TV coverage for 5 years. The AFL have revenue streams from multiple sources. They have even saved a substantial amount of cash for expansion from pervious years of profits, and have entered in to fantastic stadium arrangments with both new clubs to ensure they are profitable in the near future.

Why do you think the NRL were after the AFLs 2ic so badly. We do it all better.

its not even close to being double D head
&
revenue means squat anyway .. its whats left after the bills are paid

answer
NRL ...from 2013.... plenty
VFL ... ahhhhh ...... ..... 2 bob

That's like suggesting someone on minimum wage who saves a few k a year is better off than some one on 500k a year who saves nothing because they like to spend it. The guy on minimum wage rents a dump and drives a bomb. The guy on 500k owns a mansion and drives a BMW. Oh but the one saving is better off.

Collingwood earn over 75m per year, the equivalent of close to 5 NRL clubs combined. They only make a few mil profit. Is it because their overheads are too high? Hardly! It's because they have the money to afford a huge support crew, state of the art facilities, massive marketing budget etc. they even employed a consultant to investigate a new uniform with state of the art material to suite any weather conditions. Excessive yes. Unaffordable? Not for collingwood.

So how much does the NRL plus clubs earn per year? Well the NRL will get 200m from TV, and get another 50m from other sources. Add another 15m per club (240m) and they earn around 500m per year. The AFL earn around 1bil, so double.

[enarelle]

and the AFL has more than twice the running costs eg more teams,more players,higher salary cap,higher ground costs etc NRL

Meanwhile NRL memberships are growing 20% year on year,crowds are at worst stable.

[pookus]

Dream the impossible dream people but right now your a long way second and with no expansion,less free to air coverage and debacles like the dally M the other night cant see it being close. Why dont you NRL types ever talk facts.It is like 8 year olds debating which band is better. Over 800 million behind over the next 5 years.Not one cent in the bank while the AFL has 200 million.(covering expansion) and ownership of a billion dollar stadium. And while the AFL already employs 120 setting up its own production house the NRL have just worked out its a good idea. Honestly you people come across as the most deluded group since the branch davidians and we know how that ended.

[Xman]

and the AFL has more than twice the running costs eg more teams,more players,higher salary cap,higher ground costs etc NRL

Meanwhile NRL memberships are growing 20% year on year,crowds are at worst stable.

As I described above, double the costs isnt bad, our players are better paid, they play in better stadiums in front of more people, and train in better facilities. They're the benefits of a wealthier competition. When you earn more you can spend it.