Options for a lopsided comp

[TLPG]

Eel, Brisbane's win over Adelaide was no fluke. Are you suggesting that the Crows tanked?? The Bulldogs, as Xman rightly pointed out, have been competitive. Let's double check those flogging claims;

1. GWS 15 Floggings - no, 13 based on margins
2. GCS 9 Floggings - no, 8
3. WBD 7 Floggings - this one you actuallly got right
4. Mel 6 Floggings - no, 4
5. BRI 6 Floggings - no, 4

But wait, there have been other floggings as well;
Adelaide over Carlton in Round 7
Carlton over Collingwood in Round 3
St.Kilda over Essendon in Round 15
Geelong over Essendon in Round 17
Hawthorn over Essendon in Round 18
Carlton over Essendon this past weekend - oh look! Essendon have been flogged as many times as Melbourne!!

Need I say more?

[King-Eliagh]

Considering TLPG has been caught lying frequently of late, I think Eels data would be much more correct. I'd consider 10goals a flogging. Eels how did you define a flogging in your research?

[Xman]

Eel, Brisbane's win over Adelaide was no fluke. Are you suggesting that the Crows tanked?? The Bulldogs, as Xman rightly pointed out, have been competitive. Let's double check those flogging claims;

1. GWS 15 Floggings - no, 13 based on margins
2. GCS 9 Floggings - no, 8
3. WBD 7 Floggings - this one you actuallly got right
4. Mel 6 Floggings - no, 4
5. BRI 6 Floggings - no, 4

But wait, there have been other floggings as well;
Adelaide over Carlton in Round 7
Carlton over Collingwood in Round 3
St.Kilda over Essendon in Round 15
Geelong over Essendon in Round 17
Hawthorn over Essendon in Round 18
Carlton over Essendon this past weekend - oh look! Essendon have been flogged as many times as Melbourne!!

Need I say more?

QFT!

Floggings are part of a high scoring game. They do not indicate if a team is competitive, they indicate if they are inconsistent!

Saying Brisbanes win over the Crows was a fluke is ridiculous. What about their win over the Eagles? Two of the leagues best. Seriously, if beating two of the top sides makes you a basket case then almost every league in the world is half full of basket cases.

[eelofwest]

AFL Blowouts 2012

Round 1
GWS 37 - 100 SYD, GCS 68 - 137 ADE
Round 2
BRI 63 - 154 CAR, WCE 166 - 58 MEL, NM 183 - 54 GWS, STK 139 - 47 GCS
Round 3
CAR 122 - 62 COL, RIC 133 - 74 MEL ,WBD 40 - 103 STK, GWS 69 - 150 WCE, HAW 140 - 84 ADE
Round 4
BRI 111 - 46 GCS , GWS 62 - 104 WBD
Round 6
ESS 129 - 62 BRI CAR 110 - 43 GWS
Round 7
MEL 49 - 115 HAW, ADE 122 - 72 GEE, BRI 58 - 116 COL, ESS 113 - 52 WCE,
Round 8
HAW 119 - 63 FRE, SYD 138 - 37 MEL, WBD 72 - 34 GCS, CAR 55 - 124 ADE,
BRI 132 - 40 GWS
Round 9
RIC 137 - 75 HAW, GWS 53 - 119 ESS, CAR 107 - 49 MEL,
Round 10
GEE 126 - 61 GWS, HAW 174 - 59 NM, SYD 132 - 40 WBD, COL 149 - 52 GCS
Round 11 Byes for NM, Brisbane, GWS, WCE, WBD
GCS 49 - 144 STK
Round 12 Byes for Collingwood, Sydney, Essendon, Melbourne Demons, Dockers.
HAW 135 - 70 BRI,
Round 13 Byes for Richmond, Hawthorn, Port Ade, St Kilda, Gold Coast Suns, Carlton.
WBD 56 - 114 BRI, MEL 135 - 57 GWS
Round 14
WCE 166 - 40 GCS, SYD 132 - 38 GWS, ESS 140 - 56 WBD, BRI 122 - 61 MEL
Round 15
SYD 110 - 63 BRI, STK 133 - 62 ESS, POR 58 - 116 ADE, HAW 193 - 31 GWS
Round 16
GWS 59 - 178 ADE, WBD 44 - 116 HAW
Round 17
GEE 134 - 67 ESS, FRE 132 - 37 GWS
Round 18
ESS 86 - 180 HAW, GWS 54 - 174 COL, GCS 54 - 126 SYD, STK 118 - 42 WBD, WCE 175 - 77 BRI Wow 5 games were dead set floggings in 1 round of AFL..
Round 19 OMG NO FLOGGINGS, THIS HAS TO BE A FIRST....
Round 20
RIC 150 - 80 WBD, HAW 159 - 87 POR

The VFL
13 Brisbane 19 7 0 12 85.11 28
14 Port Adelaide 19 5 0 14 78.54 20
15 Bulldogs 19 5 0 14 69.67 20
16 Melbourne 19 3 0 16 67.70 12
17 Gold Coast 19 2 0 17 60.77 8
18 Greater Western Sydney 19 2 0 17 45.81 8

1. GWS 15 Floggings
2. GCS 9 Floggings
3. WBD 7 Floggings
4. Mel 6 Floggings
5. BRI 6 Floggings

All the floggings are in Bold text.

[Xman]

Since when is 42 points a flogging?

Since when is 38 points a flogging?

Or even 47?

As I said, floggings arent uncommon and happen to even the best teams. Its more about consistent performance than anything. Look at Essendon. Theyve flogged teams and also been flogged.

[Striker]

Look I have to admit that Eel is overdoing it. Anything under 60 points isn't a flogging unless the losing scores is super low. Boring yes and that's the real ratpoo that AFL represents. A flogging no.

Lopsided? Abso-freaking-lutely!

[TLPG]

Blimey! Striker's right about the 60 points! Now I'm worried! Boring however is a rubbish comment.

Eel, every single margin you have there that is under 10 goals (60 points) is NOT a flogging. Do not claim otherwise.

[King-Eliagh]

I think we'll find though that the 40 odd point floggings Eels have listed account for teams letting sides like GWs back into it once they've already belted them by half time. I also recall a brissy match which Xman said was close because it was around 40points difference but the amount of inside 50s the lions got in the game was the lowest ever recorded and the amount of behinds their opponent kicked was astronomical. Hence a clear flogging in anyones eyes. The least inside 50s ever says it all really.

So im quite happpy with eels research.

[TLPG]

Yet again, KE shows how little he understands football. A flogging is judged on the scoreboard - and nowhere else. If a team isn't converting that's just bad luck, or good defence by their opponents. If a team isn't getting the ball inside their attacking 50, that's also good defence by their opponents. Nothing to do with the other end of the ground.

Eel's research is total bunk and biased as anything, and contains a complete lack of understanding of the game as well.

[King-Eliagh]

Yet again, KE shows how little he understands football. A flogging is judged on the scoreboard - and nowhere else. If a team isn't converting that's just bad luck, or good defence by their opponents. If a team isn't getting the ball inside their attacking 50, that's also good defence by their opponents. Nothing to do with the other end of the ground.

Eel's research is total bunk and biased as anything, and contains a complete lack of understanding of the game as well.

Says a guy who's never played footy

I'm sorry TLPG but your minimalist assessment is trash and it makes you look like you know less about footy.

[eelofwest]

Update

AFL Blowouts 2012

Round 1
GWS 37 - 100 SYD, GCS 68 - 137 ADE
Round 2
BRI 63 - 154 CAR, WCE 166 - 58 MEL, NM 183 - 54 GWS, STK 139 - 47 GCS
Round 3
CAR 122 - 62 COL, RIC 133 - 74 MEL ,WBD 40 - 103 STK, GWS 69 - 150 WCE, HAW 140 - 84 ADE
Round 4
BRI 111 - 46 GCS , GWS 62 - 104 WBD
Round 6
ESS 129 - 62 BRI CAR 110 - 43 GWS
Round 7
MEL 49 - 115 HAW, ADE 122 - 72 GEE, BRI 58 - 116 COL, ESS 113 - 52 WCE,
Round 8
HAW 119 - 63 FRE, SYD 138 - 37 MEL, WBD 72 - 34 GCS, CAR 55 - 124 ADE,
BRI 132 - 40 GWS
Round 9
RIC 137 - 75 HAW, GWS 53 - 119 ESS, CAR 107 - 49 MEL,
Round 10
GEE 126 - 61 GWS, HAW 174 - 59 NM, SYD 132 - 40 WBD, COL 149 - 52 GCS
Round 11 Byes for NM, Brisbane, GWS, WCE, WBD
GCS 49 - 144 STK
Round 12 Byes for Collingwood, Sydney, Essendon, Melbourne Demons, Dockers.
HAW 135 - 70 BRI,
Round 13 Byes for Richmond, Hawthorn, Port Ade, St Kilda, Gold Coast Suns, Carlton.
WBD 56 - 114 BRI, MEL 135 - 57 GWS
Round 14
WCE 166 - 40 GCS, SYD 132 - 38 GWS, ESS 140 - 56 WBD, BRI 122 - 61 MEL
Round 15
SYD 110 - 63 BRI, STK 133 - 62 ESS, POR 58 - 116 ADE, HAW 193 - 31 GWS
Round 16
GWS 59 - 178 ADE, WBD 44 - 116 HAW
Round 17
GEE 134 - 67 ESS, FRE 132 - 37 GWS
Round 18
ESS 86 - 180 HAW, GWS 54 - 174 COL, GCS 54 - 126 SYD, STK 118 - 42 WBD, WCE 175 - 77 BRI Wow 5 games were dead set floggings in 1 round of AFL..
Round 19 OMG NO FLOGGINGS, THIS HAS TO BE A FIRST....
Round 20
RIC 150 - 80 WBD, HAW 159 - 87 POR
Round 21
ESS 60 - 156 CAR, WB 85 - 167 SYD, HAW 129 - 65 GCS


The VFL
13 Brisbane 20 8 0 12 86.27 32
14 Port Adelaide 20 5 0 15 77.15 20
15 Bulldogs 20 5 0 15 68.15 20
16 Melbourne 20 4 0 16 69.81 16
17 Gold Coast 20 2 0 18 60.17 8
18 Greater Western Sydney 20 2 0 18 46.64 8

1. GWS 15 Floggings
2. GCS 10 Floggings
3. WBD 8 Floggings
4. Mel 6 Floggings
5. BRI 6 Floggings

Round 21
P W D L % Pts
1 Sydney 20 16 0 4 149.61 64
2 Hawthorn 20 15 0 5 158.29 60
3 Adelaide 20 15 0 5 125.74 60
4 Collingwood 20 15 0 5 119.28 60
5 West Coast 20 14 0 6 124.97 56
6 North Melbourne 20 13 0 7 115.20 52
7 Geelong 20 13 0 7 114.70 52
8 Fremantle 20 12 0 8 109.61 48
9 Carlton 20 11 0 9 110.52 44
10 Essendon 20 11 0 9 104.14 44
11 St Kilda 20 10 0 10 116.94 40
12 Richmond 20 9 0 11 110.17 36
13 Brisbane 20 8 0 12 86.27 32
14 Port Adelaide 20 5 0 15 77.15 20
15 Bulldogs 20 5 0 15 68.15 20
16 Melbourne 20 4 0 16 69.81 16
17 Gold Coast 20 2 0 18 60.17 8
18 Greater Western Sydney 20 2 0 18 46.64 8

NRL with same points system
Round 24
W L D B PD Pts
1 Bulldogs 17 5 0 2 195 76
2 Storm 15 7 0 2 196 68
3 Rabbitohs 14 8 0 2 77 64
4 Sea Eagles 14 8 0 2 76 64
5 Sharks 12 9 1 2 20 56
6 Cowboys 12 9 0 2 120 56
7 Broncos 11 11 0 2 37 52
8 Tigers 11 11 0 2 -1 52
9 Raiders 11 11 0 2 -39 52
10 Titans 10 12 0 2 -6 48
11 Knights 10 12 0 2 -20 48
12 Dragons 9 12 0 2 -76 44
13 Warriors 8 14 0 2 -60 40
14 Roosters 7 14 1 2 -156 36
15 Panthers 7 15 0 2 -173 36
16 Eels 6 16 0 2 -190 32

[TLPG]

Yet again, KE shows how little he understands football. A flogging is judged on the scoreboard - and nowhere else. If a team isn't converting that's just bad luck, or good defence by their opponents. If a team isn't getting the ball inside their attacking 50, that's also good defence by their opponents. Nothing to do with the other end of the ground.

Eel's research is total bunk and biased as anything, and contains a complete lack of understanding of the game as well.

Says a guy who's never played footy

I'm sorry TLPG but your minimalist assessment is trash and it makes you look like you know less about footy.

I played at school. And my umpiring gives me a view of the game that is close enough to playing.

[TLPG]

Update

AFL Blowouts 2012

Round 1
GWS 37 - 100 SYD, GCS 68 - 137 ADE
Round 2
BRI 63 - 154 CAR, WCE 166 - 58 MEL, NM 183 - 54 GWS, STK 139 - 47 GCS
Round 3
CAR 122 - 62 COL, WBD 40 - 103 STK, GWS 69 - 150 WCE
Round 4
BRI 111 - 46 GCS
Round 6
ESS 129 - 62 BRI CAR 110 - 43 GWS
Round 7
MEL 49 - 115 HAW, ESS 113 - 52 WCE
Round 8
SYD 138 - 37 MEL, CAR 55 - 124 ADE, BRI 132 - 40 GWS
Round 9
RIC 137 - 75 HAW, GWS 53 - 119 ESS
Round 10
GEE 126 - 61 GWS, HAW 174 - 59 NM, SYD 132 - 40 WBD, COL 149 - 52 GCS
Round 11 Byes for NM, Brisbane, GWS, WCE, WBD
GCS 49 - 144 STK
Round 12 Byes for Collingwood, Sydney, Essendon, Melbourne Demons, Dockers.
HAW 135 - 70 BRI,
Round 13 Byes for Richmond, Hawthorn, Port Ade, St Kilda, Gold Coast Suns, Carlton.
MEL 135 - 57 GWS
Round 14
WCE 166 - 40 GCS, SYD 132 - 38 GWS, ESS 140 - 56 WBD, BRI 122 - 61 MEL
Round 15
STK 133 - 62 ESS, HAW 193 - 31 GWS
Round 16
GWS 59 - 178 ADE, WBD 44 - 116 HAW
Round 17
GEE 134 - 67 ESS, FRE 132 - 37 GWS
Round 18
ESS 86 - 180 HAW, GWS 54 - 174 COL, GCS 54 - 126 SYD, STK 118 - 42 WBD, WCE 175 - 77 BRI Wow 5 games were dead set floggings in 1 round of AFL..
Round 19 OMG NO FLOGGINGS, THIS HAS TO BE A FIRST....
Round 20
RIC 150 - 80 WBD, HAW 159 - 87 POR
Round 21
ESS 60 - 156 CAR, WB 85 - 167 SYD, HAW 129 - 65 GCS

Matches that were NOT floggings removed. Take note, Eel!

[eelofwest]

Update

AFL Blowouts 2012

Round 1
GWS 37 - 100 SYD, GCS 68 - 137 ADE
Round 2
BRI 63 - 154 CAR, WCE 166 - 58 MEL, NM 183 - 54 GWS, STK 139 - 47 GCS
Round 3
CAR 122 - 62 COL, RIC 133 - 74 MEL ,WBD 40 - 103 STK, GWS 69 - 150 WCE, HAW 140 - 84 ADE
Round 4
BRI 111 - 46 GCS , GWS 62 - 104 WBD
Round 6
ESS 129 - 62 BRI CAR 110 - 43 GWS
Round 7
MEL 49 - 115 HAW, ADE 122 - 72 GEE, BRI 58 - 116 COL, ESS 113 - 52 WCE,
Round 8
HAW 119 - 63 FRE, SYD 138 - 37 MEL, WBD 72 - 34 GCS, CAR 55 - 124 ADE,
BRI 132 - 40 GWS
Round 9
RIC 137 - 75 HAW, GWS 53 - 119 ESS, CAR 107 - 49 MEL,
Round 10
GEE 126 - 61 GWS, HAW 174 - 59 NM, SYD 132 - 40 WBD, COL 149 - 52 GCS
Round 11 Byes for NM, Brisbane, GWS, WCE, WBD
GCS 49 - 144 STK
Round 12 Byes for Collingwood, Sydney, Essendon, Melbourne Demons, Dockers.
HAW 135 - 70 BRI,
Round 13 Byes for Richmond, Hawthorn, Port Ade, St Kilda, Gold Coast Suns, Carlton.
WBD 56 - 114 BRI, MEL 135 - 57 GWS
Round 14
WCE 166 - 40 GCS, SYD 132 - 38 GWS, ESS 140 - 56 WBD, BRI 122 - 61 MEL
Round 15
SYD 110 - 63 BRI, STK 133 - 62 ESS, POR 58 - 116 ADE, HAW 193 - 31 GWS
Round 16
GWS 59 - 178 ADE, WBD 44 - 116 HAW
Round 17
GEE 134 - 67 ESS, FRE 132 - 37 GWS
Round 18
ESS 86 - 180 HAW, GWS 54 - 174 COL, GCS 54 - 126 SYD, STK 118 - 42 WBD, WCE 175 - 77 BRI Wow 5 games were dead set floggings in 1 round of AFL..
Round 19 OMG NO FLOGGINGS, THIS HAS TO BE A FIRST....
Round 20
RIC 150 - 80 WBD, HAW 159 - 87 POR
Round 21
ESS 60 - 156 CAR, WB 85 - 167 SYD, HAW 129 - 65 GCS


The VFL
13 Brisbane 20 8 0 12 86.27 32
14 Port Adelaide 20 5 0 15 77.15 20
15 Bulldogs 20 5 0 15 68.15 20
16 Melbourne 20 4 0 16 69.81 16
17 Gold Coast 20 2 0 18 60.17 8
18 Greater Western Sydney 20 2 0 18 46.64 8

1. GWS 15 Floggings
2. GCS 10 Floggings
3. WBD 8 Floggings
4. Mel 6 Floggings
5. BRI 6 Floggings

Round 21
P W D L % Pts
1 Sydney 20 16 0 4 149.61 64
2 Hawthorn 20 15 0 5 158.29 60
3 Adelaide 20 15 0 5 125.74 60
4 Collingwood 20 15 0 5 119.28 60
5 West Coast 20 14 0 6 124.97 56
6 North Melbourne 20 13 0 7 115.20 52
7 Geelong 20 13 0 7 114.70 52
8 Fremantle 20 12 0 8 109.61 48
9 Carlton 20 11 0 9 110.52 44
10 Essendon 20 11 0 9 104.14 44
11 St Kilda 20 10 0 10 116.94 40
12 Richmond 20 9 0 11 110.17 36
13 Brisbane 20 8 0 12 86.27 32
14 Port Adelaide 20 5 0 15 77.15 20
15 Bulldogs 20 5 0 15 68.15 20
16 Melbourne 20 4 0 16 69.81 16
17 Gold Coast 20 2 0 18 60.17 8
18 Greater Western Sydney 20 2 0 18 46.64 8

NRL with same points system
Round 24
W L D B PD Pts
1 Bulldogs 17 5 0 2 195 76
2 Storm 15 7 0 2 196 68
3 Rabbitohs 14 8 0 2 77 64
4 Sea Eagles 14 8 0 2 76 64
5 Sharks 12 9 1 2 20 56
6 Cowboys 12 9 0 2 120 56
7 Broncos 11 11 0 2 37 52
8 Tigers 11 11 0 2 -1 52
9 Raiders 11 11 0 2 -39 52
10 Titans 10 12 0 2 -6 48
11 Knights 10 12 0 2 -20 48
12 Dragons 9 12 0 2 -76 44
13 Warriors 8 14 0 2 -60 40
14 Roosters 7 14 1 2 -156 36
15 Panthers 7 15 0 2 -173 36
16 Eels 6 16 0 2 -190 32

Our Toyota cup is more competitive then the AFL...



Pos Team P W L D PF PA PTS
1 Canberra Raiders U20s 22 16 6 0 742 527 36
2 Cant'bury-B'town Bulldogs U20s 22 15 6 1 692 477 35
3 Warriors U20s 22 15 6 1 626 476 35
4 Wests Tigers U20s 22 14 8 0 626 452 32
5 Penrith Panthers U20s 22 13 8 1 582 465 31
6 Sydney Roosters U20s 22 12 8 2 626 518 30
7 St George Illawarra Dragons U2 22 12 9 1 572 495 29
8 South Sydney Rabbitohs U20s 22 12 9 1 630 560 29
9 Melbourne Storm U20s 22 11 9 2 501 520 28
10 Cronulla Sharks U20s 22 11 9 2 579 612 28
11 Newcastle Knights U20s 22 9 12 1 596 520 23
12 Brisbane Broncos U20s 22 7 15 0 564 734 18
13 North Queensland Cowboys U20s 22 6 14 2 493 680 18
14 Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles U20s 22 5 15 2 451 772 16
15 Parramatta Eels U20s 22 5 17 0 524 722 14
16 Gold Coast Titans U20s 22 5 17 0 414 688 14

[King-Eliagh]

Wow this research really tells us the difference Eels. And honestly the NRL this season has been a bit lopsided too but sheesh when compared to the AFL we can clearly see the AFL comp this year is most likely the most lopsided professional comp australians have ever viewed...