NRL more popular outside it's hearland then the AFL

[eelofwest]

NRL Players from outside It’s heartland NSW, QLD


Parramatta Eels

1. Justin Poore WA Perth
2. Daniel Penese in New Zealand
3. Justin Horo Auckland, New Zealand[
4. Luke Kelly Katherine, Northern Territory
5. Fuifui Moana Moimoi Tonga
6. Joseph Paulo NZ Auckland
7. Ben Roberts ,New Zealand
8. Willie Tonga Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

The Canterbury bankstown Bulldogs.

9. Bryson Goodwin WA
10. James Graham England
11. Dene Halatau Invercargill, New Zealand)
12. Sam Kasiano New Zealand Auckland
13. Joel Romelo Darwin NT
14. Martin Taupau Samoa
15. Sam Perrett Auckland, New Zealand

Penrith Panthers

16. Geoff Daniela Auckland, New Zealand)
17. Sam McKendry, Stirling, Western Australia rep New Zealand
18. Nathan Smith Canberra, Australia
19. Etuate Uaisele Tonga
20. Taioalo "Junior" Vaivai Samoa

West Tigers.

21. Adam Blair Whangarei, Northland NZ
22. Gareth Ellis Castleford, West Yorkshire ENG
23. Matt Groat Rankins Springs in the Riverina
24. Masada Iosefa Samoa
25. Benji Marshall Whakatane, New Zealand
26. Junior Moors Auckland, New Zealand
27. Ben Murdoch-Masila New Zealand
28. Tuqiri Korolevu, Fiji
29. Matthew Utai Auckland, New Zealand Samoa

South Sydney Rabitohs.

30. Roy Asotasi Auckland, New Zealand ,Samoa heritage
31. George Burgess Dewsbury, England
32. Luke Burgess Wakefield England
33. Sam Burgess Leeds, West Yorkshire England
34. Issac Luke Hawera, Taranaki NZ
35. Edward "Eddy" Pettybourne Christchurch, New Zealand
36. Fetuli Talanoa New Zealand Tonga
37. Neccrom Areaiiti New Zealand

Sydney Roosters.

38. Josh Ailaomai NZ Maori Samoan
39. Tinirau Arona Cook Islands
40. Anthony Cherrington Auckland, New Zealand
41. Kenny-Dowall Ngaruawahia, New Zealand
42. Mose Masoe Wellington, New Zealand
43. Frank-Paul Nu'uausala Auckland, New Zealand
44. Brad Takairangi Cook Islands
45. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves New Zealand
46. Josh Ailaomai Lower Hutt, New Zealand

Manly SeaEagles

47. Kieran Foran Auckland, New Zealand
48. Liam Foran Auckland, New Zealand
49. Joe Galuvao New Zealand
50. Stephen "Steve" Matai Auckland, New Zealand
51. Dean Whare New Zealand

St George Dragons

52. Leeson Ah Mau New Zealand
53. Jason Nightingale New Zealand

Cronulla Sharks

54. Jeremy Smith Altona Roosters Melbourne, Victoria rep NZ
55. Sam Tagataese Lower Hutt Wellington, New Zealand)

Brisbane Broncos

56. Petero Civoniceva Suva, Fiji
57. Alex Glenn New Zealand
58. Jack Reed Silsden, Keighley, England
59. Ben Te'o New Zealand

North Queensland Cowboys

60. Kalifa Faifai Loa Wellington, New Zealand
61. Cory Paterson Perth, Western Australia
62. James Tamou Levin Palmerston North NZ
63. Jason Taumalolo Auckland, New Zealand)
64. Ricky Thorby New Zealand
65. Antonio Winterstein Auckland, New Zealand

Gold Coast Titans

66. David Mead (formerly Moore) Papua New Guinean
67. Dominique Peyroux New Zealand
68. Bodene Thompson Tauranga, New Zealand
69. Joe Vickery England

Canberra Raiders

70. Bronson Harrison Auckland, New Zealand
71. Matt McIlwrick New Zealand
72. Josh Papalii Auckland) New Zealand

Melbourne Storm

73. Jack Taualii Afamasaga Lower Hutt, New Zealand)
74. Jesse Bromwich Auckland, New Zealand
75. Kenny Bromwich Auckland, New Zealand
76. Will Chambers Gove, Northern Territory
77. Matthew Duffie Pakuranga Auckland, New Zealand
78. Luke Kelly Katherine, Northern Territory
79. Sika Manu Wellington, New Zealand
80. Kevin Proctor Te Kuiti, New Zealand
81. Sisa Waqa Fiji
82. Gareth Widdop Halifax, West Yorkshire / Altona Roosters VIC

Newcastle Knights

83. Wes Naiqama Fiji
84. Tafeaga "Junior" Sa'u New Zealand
85. Akuila Uate Votua, Fiji
86. Evarn Tuimavave Auckland, New Zealand
87. Neville Costigan Rabaul, Papua New Guinea
88. Marvin Filipo Auckland New Zealand
89. Zane Tetevano Tokoroa New Zealand
90. Siuatonga Likiliki Auckland New Zealand

New Zealand Warriors

91. Lewis Brown Christchurch, New Zealand
92. Glen Fisiiahi Auckland New Zealand
93. Pita Godinet Christchurch, New Zealand
94. Ben Henry New Zealand
95. Konrad Hurrell New Zealand
96. Sebastine Ikahihifo New Zealand
97. Shaun Johnson Whangaparaoa New Zealand
98. Kevin Samuel Locke Auckland New Zealand
99. Sam Lousi Auckland New Zealand
100. Sione Lousi Auckland New Zealand
101. Simon Alexander Mannering Wellington New Zealand
102. Alehana Mara Wellington, New Zealand
103. Benedict (Ben) Andrew Matulino Wellington, New Zealand
104. Russell Packer New Zealand
105. Sam Rapira Hamilton, New Zealand
106. Steve Rapira Waikato New Zealand
107. Jerome Ropati Auckland, New Zealand
108. Ukuma Ta'ai Tonga
109. Elijah Taylor Hawera, New Zealand
110. Bill Tupou Auckland, New Zealand
111. Manu Vatuvei Otara Auckland New Zealand



So out of a possible 480 players on the NRL squads of 30 we have 111 players that grew up playing outside NSW, QLD.
That is almost %25 of players not from the traditional area’s of NSW, QLD that play in the NRL =D> =D>

Now it would be interesting to see how many players from outside NSW, QLD in the toyota cup to get a gauge on how this list will look going into the future.

[pookus]

This statement is true. The heartland of the game is somwhere in england. They did a fair job of expanding their game. Not as well as their massive counterparts ,cricket and soccer but they did penetrate into oceania. The Nrl benefits from the colonial expansion of english sports they are not responsible for these nations following league. The english are. The NRL heartland is NSW and QLD and the game in Australia has expanded very little .

[piesman2011]

Excellent thread with some good research (unike my thread i must admit). Just a quick question are you basing your research on Players born outside of NSW/Qld or just grew up playing outside of NSW and Qld. Because for example your Justin Poore played all of his junior football for the Helensburgh Tigers in Illawara and did his high school there. While Bryson Goodwin for example played all of his junior footy for Cronulla Sutherland. In your own words grew-up playing outside NSW/QLD.

[pookus]

This isn't a good thread it insinuates that the NRL are responsible for the expansion of rugby league around the world.That is utter bullshit. The nrl has been responsible for the expansion within Australia it can't claim players from other countries.

[justanotherleaguefan]

The NRL is responsible for expansion in NZ

[pookus]

The NRL is responsible for expansion in NZ

No it's not it benefits from the fact the game was alredy played there. How much money has the Nrl put into junior development in NZ before the warriors came on board.Judging by what is spent here not very much I suggest.

[piesman2011]

I believe that the AFL probably is about 15/20% in terms of players from outside of our heartland states. The AFL will have more players in total, but will probabaly have a lesser percentage overall. You have included ACT and NT which will give the AFL more players then the NRL if you statistics are correct. The AFL has about 850 players. I would say about 100 are from NSW/QLD 20-30 from Ireland, 10 from the teritories. 5-10 from Pacific Islands and quite a few born in NZ, although NZ raised would probabaly be another matter. I would say 140-160 from outside AFL states would be about right. I will do some research (all help would be appreciated).

[Xman]

I have no problem accepting that RL has expanded and has a greater international following than ARs. But as pookus said, this is not due to the NRL, but due to the influence the British empire has had globally. However, I'm also very pleased that ARs has expanded across Australia more than any winter sport, and can truly lay claim as Australia's favorite sport.

[piesman2011]

Lets start this will be a long list:

Collingwood
1. Dayne Beams (Qld)
2. Marty Clark (Ireland)
3. Lachlan Keefe (Qld)
4. Peter Yagmoor (Qld)
5. Jarrad Witts (NSW)
6. Tom Young (NSW)
7.Caolan Mooney (Ireland)
8. Josh Thomas (Qld)
9. Paul Cribbin (Ireland)
10. Michael Hartley (NSW)
11 Shae McNamara (USA)
12. Trent Stubbs (NSW)

That is just the ones from my club so far. Collingwood has others who were born outside Australia but were raised here. Should I list them as well.

[piesman2011]

Adelaide Crows
13. Kurt Tippett (Qld)
14. Taylor Walker (NSW)
15. Richard Tambling (NT)
16. Benjamin Dowdell (USA)
17. Sam Martyn (NSW)

[piesman2011]

Brisbane Lions
18. Claye Beams (Qld)
19. Josh Drummond (Qld)
20. Pearce Hanley (Ireland)
21. Ben Hudson (Qld)
22. Niall McKeever (Ireland)
23. Daniel Merrett (Qld)
24. Andrew Raines (Qld)
25. Bryce Retzlaff (Qld)
26. Brent Staker (NSW)
27. Cheynee Stiller (Qld)
28. Dayne Zorko (Qld)
29. Sam Mitchell (Qld)
30. Richard Newell (NSW)
31. Stephen Wrigley (Qld)

[justanotherleaguefan]

NRL Players from outside It’s heartland NSW, QLD


Parramatta Eels

1. Justin Poore WA Perth
2. Daniel Penese in New Zealand
3. Justin Horo Auckland, New Zealand[
4. Luke Kelly Katherine, Northern Territory
5. Fuifui Moana Moimoi Tonga
6. Joseph Paulo NZ Auckland
7. Ben Roberts ,New Zealand
8. Willie Tonga Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

The Canterbury bankstown Bulldogs.

9. Bryson Goodwin WA
10. James Graham England
11. Dene Halatau Invercargill, New Zealand)
12. Sam Kasiano New Zealand Auckland
13. Joel Romelo Darwin NT
14. Martin Taupau Samoa
15. Sam Perrett Auckland, New Zealand

Penrith Panthers

16. Geoff Daniela Auckland, New Zealand)
17. Sam McKendry, Stirling, Western Australia rep New Zealand
18. Nathan Smith Canberra, Australia
19. Etuate Uaisele Tonga
20. Taioalo "Junior" Vaivai Samoa

West Tigers.

21. Adam Blair Whangarei, Northland NZ
22. Gareth Ellis Castleford, West Yorkshire ENG
23. Matt Groat Rankins Springs in the Riverina
24. Masada Iosefa Samoa
25. Benji Marshall Whakatane, New Zealand
26. Junior Moors Auckland, New Zealand
27. Ben Murdoch-Masila New Zealand
28. Tuqiri Korolevu, Fiji
29. Matthew Utai Auckland, New Zealand Samoa

South Sydney Rabitohs.

30. Roy Asotasi Auckland, New Zealand ,Samoa heritage
31. George Burgess Dewsbury, England
32. Luke Burgess Wakefield England
33. Sam Burgess Leeds, West Yorkshire England
34. Issac Luke Hawera, Taranaki NZ
35. Edward "Eddy" Pettybourne Christchurch, New Zealand
36. Fetuli Talanoa New Zealand Tonga
37. Neccrom Areaiiti New Zealand

Sydney Roosters.

38. Josh Ailaomai NZ Maori Samoan
39. Tinirau Arona Cook Islands
40. Anthony Cherrington Auckland, New Zealand
41. Kenny-Dowall Ngaruawahia, New Zealand
42. Mose Masoe Wellington, New Zealand
43. Frank-Paul Nu'uausala Auckland, New Zealand
44. Brad Takairangi Cook Islands
45. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves New Zealand
46. Josh Ailaomai Lower Hutt, New Zealand

Manly SeaEagles

47. Kieran Foran Auckland, New Zealand
48. Liam Foran Auckland, New Zealand
49. Joe Galuvao New Zealand
50. Stephen "Steve" Matai Auckland, New Zealand
51. Dean Whare New Zealand

St George Dragons

52. Leeson Ah Mau New Zealand
53. Jason Nightingale New Zealand

Cronulla Sharks

54. Jeremy Smith Altona Roosters Melbourne, Victoria rep NZ
55. Sam Tagataese Lower Hutt Wellington, New Zealand)

Brisbane Broncos

56. Petero Civoniceva Suva, Fiji
57. Alex Glenn New Zealand
58. Jack Reed Silsden, Keighley, England
59. Ben Te'o New Zealand

North Queensland Cowboys

60. Kalifa Faifai Loa Wellington, New Zealand
61. Cory Paterson Perth, Western Australia
62. James Segeyaro Goroka, Papua New Guinea
63. James Tamou Levin Palmerston North NZ
64. Jason Taumalolo Auckland, New Zealand)
65. Ricky Thorby New Zealand
66. Antonio Winterstein Auckland, New Zealand

Gold Coast Titans

67. David Mead (formerly Moore) Papua New Guinean
68. Dominique Peyroux New Zealand
69. Bodene Thompson Tauranga, New Zealand
70. Joe Vickery England

Canberra Raiders

71. Bronson Harrison Auckland, New Zealand
72. Matt McIlwrick New Zealand
73. Josh Papalii Auckland) New Zealand

Melbourne Storm

74. Jack Taualii Afamasaga Lower Hutt, New Zealand)
75. Jesse Bromwich Auckland, New Zealand
76. Kenny Bromwich Auckland, New Zealand
77. Will Chambers Gove, Northern Territory
78. Matthew Duffie Pakuranga Auckland, New Zealand
79. Luke Kelly Katherine, Northern Territory
80. Sika Manu Wellington, New Zealand
81. Kevin Proctor Te Kuiti, New Zealand
82. Sisa Waqa Fiji
83. Gareth Widdop Halifax, West Yorkshire / Altona Roosters VIC

Newcastle Knights

84. Wes Naiqama Fiji
85. Tafeaga "Junior" Sa'u New Zealand
86. Akuila Uate Votua, Fiji
87. Evarn Tuimavave Auckland, New Zealand
88. Neville Costigan Rabaul, Papua New Guinea
89. Marvin Filipo Auckland New Zealand
90. Zane Tetevano Tokoroa New Zealand
91. Siuatonga Likiliki Auckland New Zealand

New Zealand Warriors

92. Lewis Brown Christchurch, New Zealand
93. Glen Fisiiahi Auckland New Zealand
94. Pita Godinet Christchurch, New Zealand
95. Ben Henry New Zealand
96. Konrad Hurrell New Zealand
97. Sebastine Ikahihifo New Zealand
98. Shaun Johnson Whangaparaoa New Zealand
99. Kevin Samuel Locke Auckland New Zealand
100. Sam Lousi Auckland New Zealand
101. Sione Lousi Auckland New Zealand
102. Simon Alexander Mannering Wellington New Zealand
103. Alehana Mara Wellington, New Zealand
104. Benedict (Ben) Andrew Matulino Wellington, New Zealand
105. Russell Packer New Zealand
106. Sam Rapira Hamilton, New Zealand
107. Steve Rapira Waikato New Zealand
108. Jerome Ropati Auckland, New Zealand
109. Ukuma Ta'ai Tonga
110. Elijah Taylor Hawera, New Zealand
111. Bill Tupou Auckland, New Zealand
112. Manu Vatuvei Otara Auckland New Zealand



So out of a possible 480 players on the NRL squads of 30 we have 112 players that grew up playing outside NSW, QLD.
That is almost %25 of players not from the traditional area’s of NSW, QLD that play in the NRL =D> =D>

Now it would be interesting to see how many players from outside NSW, QLD in the toyota cup to get a gauge on how this list will look going into the future.

There are a few players missing from that list. I would really like to have a look at toyota cup list

[piesman2011]

Carlton
32. Dennis Armfield (ACT) moved WA played union most of his junior days.
33. Zach Tuohy (Ireland)
34.Shaun Hampson (Qld)
35. Tom Bell (Qld)
36. Bray Blake (NSW)
37. Mathew Lodge (NSW)

Essendon
38. COurtney Dempsey (Qld)
39. Mark McVeigh (NSW)
40. Anthony Long (NT)

Fremantle
41. Jordan Wilson-King (NT)

Geelong
42. Steven Motlop (NT)

Gold Coast
43. Zac Smith (Qld)
44. Jarrad Brennan (NT)
45. Jarrod Harbrow (Qld)
46.Alik Magin (Qld)
47. K Hunt (NZ/Qld)
48. Lewis Moss (Qld)
49. Rory Thompson (Qld)
50. Charlie Dixson (Qld)
51. Jackson Allen (Qld)
52. Alex Sexton (Qld)
53. Joel Wilkinson (Qld)
54. Tom Hickley (Qld)
55. Liam Patrick (NT)
56. Steven May (NT)
57. Josh Hall (Qld)

[eelofwest]

Carlton
32. Dennis Armfield (ACT) moved WA played union most of his junior days.
33. Zach Tuohy (Ireland)
34.Shaun Hampson (Qld)
35. Tom Bell (Qld)
36. Bray Blake (NSW)
37. Mathew Lodge (NSW)

Essendon
38. COurtney Dempsey (Qld)
39. Mark McVeigh (NSW)
40. Anthony Long (NT)

Fremantle
41. Jordan Wilson-King (NT)

Geelong
42. Steven Motlop (NT)

Gold Coast
43. Zac Smith (Qld)
44. Jarrad Brennan (NT)
45. Jarrod Harbrow (Qld)
46.Alik Magin (Qld)
47. K Hunt (NZ/Qld)
48. Lewis Moss (Qld)
49. Rory Thompson (Qld)
50. Charlie Dixson (Qld)
51. Jackson Allen (Qld)
52. Alex Sexton (Qld)
53. Joel Wilkinson (Qld)
54. Tom Hickley (Qld)
55. Liam Patrick (NT)
56. Steven May (NT)
57. Josh Hall (Qld)

Northern territory is AFL territory guys, why are they in the list?

[piesman2011]

GWS
58. Kurt Aylett (NSW)
59. Josh bruce (ACT)
60. Shaun Edwards (NT)
61. Israel Folau (NSW/Qld)
62. Curtly Hampton (NT)
63. Anthony Miles (NSW)
64. Setanta Ó hAilpín (Ireland)
65. Sam Schulz (NSW)
66. Jacob Townsen (NSW)
67. Mark Whiley (NSW)

Hawthorn
68. Luke Breust (NSW)
69. Cyril Rioli (NT)
70. Matt Suckling (NSW)
71. Brendon Whitcross (Qld)
72. Taylor Duryea (NSW/ACT) not sure which one.
73. Will Langford (NSW)
74. Broc McCauley (Qld)

Melbourn
75. Rohan Bail (Qld)
76. Liam Jurrah (NT)
77.Joel McDonald (Qld)
78. Ricky Petterd (Qld)
79. Jake Spenser (Qld)

Nth Melbourne
80. Hamish MCInosh (NSW)
81. Ben Warren (Qld)
82. Gavin Urquhart (Qld)
83. Majak Daw (Sudan)

Port Adelaide
84. Tom Logan (NT)

Richmond
85. Luke McGuane (Qld)

St Kilda
86. Lenny Hayes (NSW)
87. Raphael Clarke (NT)
88. Nick Riewoldt (Qld)
89. Adam Schneider (NSW)
90. Sam Gilbert (Qld)
91. David Armitage (Qld)
92. Ahmed Saad (Egypt)
93. Justin Koschitzke (NSW)
94. Jackson Ferguson (NSW)

Sydney Swans
95. Craig Bird (NSW)
96. Harry Cunningham (NSW)
97. Nathan Gordon (NSW)
98. Kieren Jack (NSW)
99. Jarrad McVeigh (NSW)
100. Mike Pyke (Canada)
101. Lewis Roberts-Thomson (NSW)
102. Jesse White (Qld)
103. Tommy Walsh (Ireland)
104. Eugene Kruger (South Africa)
105. Jack Lynch (NSW)
106. Dylan McNeil (NSW)

WestCoast eagles
107. Nic Naitanui (Fiji)

Western Bulldogs
108. Dylan Addison (NSW/ACT) not sure which
109. Daniel Cross (NSW)
110. James Mulligan (Qld)
111. Zephaniah Skinner (NT)
112. Jason Tutt (ACT)
113. Tom L. Williams (Qld)


I think that will do I am missing a lot of the NSW (Murry bushrangers recruits) and I havent included generally players who were born overseas. But I think 113 is a good number to finish on.