http://www.devonporttimes.com.au/news/n ... torypage=2ANYONE who followed the great AFL drug war of 2005 would understand the significance of yesterday's revelation that Australian professional sport has united in a bid to remove marijuana from the world banned list of performance-enhancing substances.
And anyone who remembers a stony-faced Andrew Demetriou seven years ago delivering one of his shortest-ever media statements, declaring the AFL would comply with the World Anti-Doping Agency before striding out of then federal Sports Minister Rod Kemp's domain, would appreciate the irony of the league's new exalted standing in the eyes of WADA.
Then, the AFL was the pariah, wrongly portrayed as soft on drugs and the victim of a federal government smear campaign gleefully carried out in the main by News Limited. Now it is something of a poster boy, whose dedicated attempts to fight corruption in sport has drawn praise from WADA. Director general David Howman has even suggested other sports around the world could do worse than study the AFL's template.
If Demetriou was naive in believing the AFL could go it alone and still receive federal support, then that failing was not as damaging as the AFL's unsuccessful bid to explain its two-tiered drugs policy - one which tested for illegal drugs out of competition and one which attempted to expose drug cheats.
''No one was saying what they were doing was wrong,'' Howman told The Age. ''It was policies and it wasn't well sold by them. But they've stuck with their illicit drugs policy and we've commended them for that.''
Quite apart from the AFL's WADA-acclaimed integrity data base, it remains the only sport in this country that releases its positive illegal drug-testing results. Only one player, former Hawk Travis Tuck, has tested positive three times under that policy, and no AFL player has been found with marijuana in his system on game day.
In commending the AFL, Howman observed how closely the league was working with its players in fighting corruption. Last year the AFL employed internationally recognised police officer Abraham Haddad to oversee its new data system to monitor the suspect behaviour of any footballer, coach or club employee.
''In fighting steroids and blood-doping and EPO and human growth hormone, they have set up strong relationships with Interpol and enforcement agencies generally,'' Howman said.
''They understand that, when it comes to corruption in sport, you've got to think the way the bad guys think and understand that the bad guys are often one and the same.
''There are huge profits to be made in the peddling of performance-enhancing substances.''
AFLs drug policies win praise from WADA
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As expected the usual suspects have now gone silent.
Good to see the AFL finally getting the recognition it deserves.
Good to see the AFL finally getting the recognition it deserves.
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http://www.AFL.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspxAustralian Drug Foundation CEO, John Rogerson, said: "The Australian Drug Foundation commends the AFL Illicit Drug Policy. This policy offers counseling, treatment and education options rather than naming and shaming players who make poor illicit drug choices and the success of this approach is undeniable.
"AFL players are our communities' role models, especially to young people; therefore the policy is sending a strong message not to use drugs. The players and AFL should be congratulated on the leadership they are showing on tackling the illicit drug issue in professional sport."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/AFL/AFL-news/a ... z1yT48fIPXAnderson was pleased testing had ''stabilised'' at six positives, although he admitted he would have preferred to have seen a continued fall. ''When you bear in mind that 30 per cent of blokes aged 20-to-30 in the community are trying illicit drugs, it's naive to think that no player will.''
=D> =D> 6 positive results to stimulants, all first strike only. No second or third strikes were recorded even after targeted testing of those who had previously returned a first strike.
This is irrefutable proof the AFLs ilicit drugs policy works to discover the individuals who make a poor choice and try ilicit drugs, and uses education, support and targeted testing to ensure they understand why the choice was poor, and support them so it doesn't become a behavioral pattern.
I wonder how the NRL test results have gone?
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They have some room to improve but yes improvements have been made to their drugs policy and thank god for that. Just a few years back the league was akin to a basketcase of drug fuelled nutters led by the likes of ben cousins and other high profile AFL crooks. So good work indeed. Bravo. But three strikes should be reduced to two. This isnt baseball, this is illegal and abusive, not to mention a bad model for the children (Xman would have to agree with that..."buuut whaaaat about the children!"
) Two strikes and they make a good recovery. Until then we can only see this as a good news spin, something media and organisations are highly adept at and something which one eyed docile gullible supporters such as xman and beaussie will, as hatched during the development of the media promo, lap it up like baby pooches at their mamas teets.

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Agree With the 2 strikes Idea. 1 strike and the club should be notified. 2 strikes and there should be a suspension.
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Again, another person who doesn't understand the policy.King-Eliagh wrote:They have some room to improve but yes improvements have been made to their drugs policy and thank god for that. Just a few years back the league was akin to a basketcase of drug fuelled nutters led by the likes of ben cousins and other high profile AFL crooks. So good work indeed. Bravo. But three strikes should be reduced to two. This isnt baseball, this is illegal and abusive, not to mention a bad model for the children (Xman would have to agree with that..."buuut whaaaat about the children!") Two strikes and they make a good recovery. Until then we can only see this as a good news spin, something media and organisations are highly adept at and something which one eyed docile gullible supporters such as xman and beaussie will, as hatched during the development of the media promo, lap it up like baby pooches at their mamas teets.
They could have chosen a 2 strike policy but decided to add a further strike. Why? So they could get the AFL players to agree to what is an extremely invasive testing regime. Why did they do this? To sample the most number of players possible that may dabble in ilicit drugs and set them on a path of education and rehab before their experiment became a habit.
Really, the number of strikes is irrelevant. It's just a means to an end. The idea policies Concept is not based on punitive measures. What's important is that the players undergo the most number of in and out of season testing possible, and are managed once identified at risk. This is happening and the evidence is there for all to see.
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Hmm interesting Xman. So there was consultation with the players group regarding this new policy?

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I believe there was yes. The testing regime is very invasive, more so than any sport I know of. They needed some level of cooperation from the players, which is understandible.King-Eliagh wrote:Hmm interesting Xman. So there was consultation with the players group regarding this new policy?
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I suppose so and it all sounds understandable. It will need more testing given the shocking past but it is improvement. I'm somewhat concerned the players appear to be the reason the policy is 3 strikes rather than two. This leniency is beyond what the general public have and players should not be provided with it. Their stringent testing regime is because they are elite pro athletes and should not be afforded the opportunity to take enhancing drugs. Perhaps with recreational drugs they could get three chances...

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Wrong. The AFL players are subject to far more stringent rules than the general public. If they are caught with ilicit drugs during a match they get an instant 2 yr ban, and they are tested regularly. If they are caught by the police they are answerable to the law. If they are caught in their own time they are forced into a more regular testing regime by their employer and must undergo counseling and education.King-Eliagh wrote:I suppose so and it all sounds understandable. It will need more testing given the shocking past but it is improvement. I'm somewhat concerned the players appear to be the reason the policy is 3 strikes rather than two. This leniency is beyond what the general public have and players should not be provided with it. Their stringent testing regime is because they are elite pro athletes and should not be afforded the opportunity to take enhancing drugs. Perhaps with recreational drugs they could get three chances...
These are far more stringent than the community.
If they are caught with performance enhancing drugs they get an instant ban.
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Ahh I dont know about you Xman but if I'm caught with illicit drugs at work I'll get fired. Thats equivalent to a life ban. AFL players are high profile and in all high profile positions, if the employee is caught with illicit drugs at work they're goooooone. No they dont receive three chancesXman wrote:
Wrong. The AFL players are subject to far more stringent rules than the general public. If they are caught with ilicit drugs during a match they get an instant 2 yr ban
And, as elite athletes and role models so they should be, especially for performance enhancing drugs.Xman wrote:and they are tested regularly.
To me its clear the three chance rule is faulty

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Xman wrote:Wrong.

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King-Eliagh wrote:Ahh I dont know about you Xman but if I'm caught with illicit drugs at work I'll get fired. Thats equivalent to a life ban. AFL players are high profile and in all high profile positions, if the employee is caught with illicit drugs at work they're goooooone. No they dont receive three chancesXman wrote:
Wrong. The AFL players are subject to far more stringent rules than the general public. If they are caught with ilicit drugs during a match they get an instant 2 yr ban![]()
And, as elite athletes and role models so they should be, especially for performance enhancing drugs.Xman wrote:and they are tested regularly.
To me its clear the three chance rule is faulty
The policy has been praised by WADA and The Australian Drug Foundation, amongst others. It's results speak volumes. 3 strikes v 2 is neither here nor there, especially when no player proceeded to more than 1 strike last year.
By the way? Where are the NrL results?
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Ah gumby? Hello? Is your brain in there? I said the treatment is less stringent not they get 3 chances on match day. Try reading for a change. A 2 year ban is less stringent than what i would receive if caught with illicit drugs in my work.They don't get 3 chances if caught on match day. They get an instant 2yr ban under WADA guidelines.
Think Xman, think.
I dont have the results for the NRL. But its important we focus on the AFL here, the past has been very very shady in this respect.

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I know what you said. I know dsimisal is worse than a 2 yr ban, but if you lose your job you can get another. If an AFL player is banned they can't play for another AFL club. AFL players are also tested multiple times a year. How often are the general public tested by their employer?King-Eliagh wrote:Ah gumby? Hello? Is your brain in there? I said the treatment is less stringent not they get 3 chances on match day. Try reading for a change. A 2 year ban is less stringent than what i would receive if caught with illicit drugs in my work.They don't get 3 chances if caught on match day. They get an instant 2yr ban under WADA guidelines.
Think Xman, think.
I dont have the results for the NRL. But its important we focus on the AFL here, the past has been very very shady in this respect.
Why don't you know the NRL results? Be a good man and find them for us, if you can!
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