Origin in Melbourne on Perma basis your thoughts.

[eelofwest]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6346218831

Me personally think its a good idea, i see a lot of People in Sydney and Brisbane getting angry about the idea but its no skin of my back and just proves how Lucrative SOO as a product is in this country.
Its grown to a point were i would like to see Melbourne as sporting capital of AUS embrace it.

[piesman2011]

I like the idea that at least 1 game is at a neutral venue. It doesn't have to be Melbourne it could be PNG or NZ or Canberra (need a bigger ground).

[eelofwest]

I like the idea that at least 1 game is at a neutral venue. It doesn't have to be Melbourne it could be PNG or NZ or Canberra (need a bigger ground).

Mmm you might be onto something, NZ sounds like a good idea should split it between Melbourne and NZ.

[Beaussie]

Novelty would wear off very quickly. History shows you that much with crowd numbers and games moved from the G to Etihad.

[eelofwest]

Novelty would wear off very quickly. History shows you that much with crowd numbers and games moved from the G to Etihad.

Correct me if i am wrong but SOO has not been played at the G for a very long time and the last time they played there they got 87 thousand to a game.
Also the Novelty has not worn off, SOO has been brought to Melbourne for a long time now and is still going strong.

[Beaussie]

Novelty would wear off very quickly. History shows you that much with crowd numbers and games moved from the G to Etihad.

Correct me if i am wrong but SOO has not been played at the G for a very long time and the last time they played there they got 87 thousand to a game.
Also the Novelty has not worn off, SOO has been brought to Melbourne for a long time now and is still going strong.

Wrong as usual. Last time SOO was played at the G, only 25,105 turned up.

Date:8-Jun-1994 Venue:M.C.G. Attendance: 87161
Date:31-May-1995 Venue:M.C.G. Attendance: 52994
Date:11-Jun-1997 Venue:M.C.G. Attendance: 25105

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/soo/soo_idx.html

Like I said, too much RL and the novelty wears off.

[eelofwest]

Novelty would wear off very quickly. History shows you that much with crowd numbers and games moved from the G to Etihad.

Correct me if i am wrong but SOO has not been played at the G for a very long time and the last time they played there they got 87 thousand to a game.
Also the Novelty has not worn off, SOO has been brought to Melbourne for a long time now and is still going strong.

Wrong as usual. Last time SOO was played at the G, only 25,105 turned up.

Date:8-Jun-1994 Venue:M.C.G. Attendance: 87161
Date:31-May-1995 Venue:M.C.G. Attendance: 52994
Date:11-Jun-1997 Venue:M.C.G. Attendance: 25105

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/soo/soo_idx.html

Like I said, too much RL and the novelty wears off.

So i was right we did get 87 at the G =D>

Playing at the G was a stupid Idea to begin with just to big for a rectangular game.

Lat time we SOO played out of Etihad Stadium 3 June 2009 50,967

This Stadium still sucks for league but is way more suitable then the G.

[pussycat]

Apart from the senseless dribble from Beau, I agree with everthing that been said. One game each and the other a neutral venue.

[King-Eliagh]

Its quite clear the victorians want in on the fantastic product that is RL. But I'm not so sure. I mean the whole concept is nsw vs qld. Playing a neutral game down there sortof irks me a bit and as a nswelshman we all know the melbournians will be going for qld, as has been reported. So its prob not so neutral territory. A tough one for mine and it would be great if victorian league was strong enough to hold their own and make their own side but, like in nsw and qld for marngrook, thats a long way off. So yeah, even though it has promo value and will build the game down there i gotta be selfish on this one and say it just doesnt fit the concept of nsw vs qld to have a game each and every year down there. Maybe once every three years would be ok but not every year.

[eelofwest]

Its quite clear the victorians want in on the fantastic product that is RL. But I'm not so sure. I mean the whole concept is nsw vs qld. Playing a neutral game down there sortof irks me a bit and as a nswelshman we all know the melbournians will be going for qld, as has been reported. So its prob not so neutral territory. A tough one for mine and it would be great if victorian league was strong enough to hold their own and make their own side but, like in nsw and qld for marngrook, thats a long way off. So yeah, even though it has promo value and will build the game down there i gotta be selfish on this one and say it just doesnt fit the concept of nsw vs qld to have a game each and every year down there. Maybe once every three years would be ok but not every year.

Yeah king after thinking about this for a phew days i actually dont like the idea.
1. The 2.5mill extra from Melbourne to hold this game isn't enough, your taking this game away from the 2 states who made it what it is today and risk loosing a lot of QLD, NSW fans because of it.
2. i agree with Beassie to some extent that this series will loose its wow factor in Melbourne after 2 year like in the past, although Melbourne didn't have a club team Melbourne storm in the NRL back in 1993, so i dont think it will drop of as quick as 1993-1997.
3. This isn't being done by the Melbourne Gov to grow league its all so us NSW, QLD can come to there state and spend a heap of our money hoping that will help them pull out of the huge debt they have. Insincere comes to mind.

So i think its good to bring a SOO to Melbourne every 3 years or even 2 years but on a permanent basis i think that would be a really bad idea in the long run for the game. I do think this move will upset a heap of NSW and QLD supporters the people that built Origin, a big risk to take for small financial gain.

[eelofwest]

Its quite clear the victorians want in on the fantastic product that is RL. But I'm not so sure. I mean the whole concept is nsw vs qld. Playing a neutral game down there sortof irks me a bit and as a nswelshman we all know the melbournians will be going for qld, as has been reported. So its prob not so neutral territory. A tough one for mine and it would be great if victorian league was strong enough to hold their own and make their own side but, like in nsw and qld for marngrook, thats a long way off. So yeah, even though it has promo value and will build the game down there i gotta be selfish on this one and say it just doesnt fit the concept of nsw vs qld to have a game each and every year down there. Maybe once every three years would be ok but not every year.

Yeah king after thinking about this for a phew days i actually dont like the idea.
1. The 2.5mill extra from Melbourne to hold this game isn't enough, your taking this game away from the 2 states who made it what it is today and risk loosing a lot of QLD, NSW fans because of it.
2. i agree with Beassie to some extent that this series will loose its wow factor in Melbourne after 2 year like in the past, although Melbourne didn't have a club team Melbourne storm in the NRL back in 1993, so i dont think it will drop of as quick as 1993-1997.
3. This isn't being done by the Melbourne Gov to grow league its all so us NSW, QLD can come to there state and spend a heap of our money hoping that will help them pull out of the huge debt they have. Insincere comes to mind.

So i think its good to bring a SOO to Melbourne every 3 years or even 2 years but on a permanent basis i think that would be a really bad idea in the long run for the game. I do think this move will upset a heap of NSW and QLD supporters the people that built Origin, a big risk to take for small financial gain.

Pretty much what i said above.

Surely the public backlash to the idea of the ARL Commission selling a State of Origin game to Melbourne annually will result in it being filed under ''S'', for stupid. It wouldn't promote substantial growth of the game in Victoria - nothing will - and the reported fee of $2.5 million a year isn't remotely worth what it would mean to take a game away from either Sydney or Brisbane every year for five years. The annual risk would be that whichever of the two true rugby league cities is scheduled to host game three of the series faces the possibility of its only Origin game being a dead rubber. There is a hard core of Melbourne people who follow the Storm, but much of the crowd at Origin games down there is made up of people travelling from interstate. That is why the Victorian government wants the game because of the financial return it attracts through tourism. The commission should concentrate on gouging the networks for every cent possible in the negotiations over television rights to games and ensuring it gets the best deal when it comes to a share of betting turnover.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rugby-l ... z1uE6LYJ20

[214Four]

if any deals were made with a neutral venue i would think no more than 2 series in a row should be considered before rotating it, best would be one year though (this would be alot harder organising). I would still choose melbourne but also north island nz, then png then south island nz. Occasionally one year a random like a regional nsw or qld, uk, western australia, south australia or usa. The stadium requirements must be a minimum 38 thousand or so seat stadium.The regional locations (like newcastle or townsville)would need to add temp seating sorta like auckland at the rugby world cup.

[Xman]

Pretty stupid holding the pinnacle of your league in a state that has few if any local players and one team that is roundly ignored by the locals.

But waste away if you wish.

[214Four]

Pretty stupid holding the pinnacle of your league in a state that has few if any local players and one team that is roundly ignored by the locals.

But waste away if you wish.

This thread has nothing to do with GWS or the suns, can you please keep to the topic xman.

[Xman]

Pretty stupid holding the pinnacle of your league in a state that has few if any local players and one team that is roundly ignored by the locals.

But waste away if you wish.

This thread has nothing to do with GWS or the suns, can you please keep to the topic xman.

The GWS and suns have more local players than the NRL SOO in Melbourne.