Options for a lopsided comp

[King-Eliagh]

Brisbane arent competitive and you know it, otherwise you would have bet more than the feeble save face bet you put on with me. You dont think they'll win jack diddly in the first half of the season. And Fremantle kicked 16 behinds and 8 goals Xman you doofus. One of their worst kicking performances.If they had have kicked half decently they would have kicked 8 behinds and 16 goals, winning by, as you say, 10-15 goals.

Yes the suns can turn it on and be competitive when a competitive team is having a bad day or jetlagged. We must all remember this about the suns, they can get teams who come out well off their game.

[Xman]

Brisbane arent competitive and you know it, otherwise you would have bet more than the feeble save face bet you put on with me. You dont think they'll win jack diddly in the first half of the season. And Fremantle kicked 16 behinds and 8 goals Xman you doofus. One of their worst kicking performances.If they had have kicked half decently they would have kicked 8 behinds and 16 goals, winning by, as you say, 10-15 goals.

Yes the suns can turn it on and be competitive when a competitive team is having a bad day or jetlagged. We must all remember this about the suns, they can get teams who come out well off their game.

Bs. I know they are competitive. But your terms are ridiculous. Even if they win 4 games by rnd 11, three are against teams you say don't qualify. Do the math dope.

Further proof you know nothing about ARs! fremantle kicked 13 points. 3 came off hands.

[eelofwest]

Brisbane arent competitive and you know it, otherwise you would have bet more than the feeble save face bet you put on with me. You dont think they'll win jack diddly in the first half of the season. And Fremantle kicked 16 behinds and 8 goals Xman you doofus. One of their worst kicking performances.If they had have kicked half decently they would have kicked 8 behinds and 16 goals, winning by, as you say, 10-15 goals.

Yes the suns can turn it on and be competitive when a competitive team is having a bad day or jetlagged. We must all remember this about the suns, they can get teams who come out well off their game.

Interesting article, backs up what we say about the basketcase teams only in this article they are called the intenders

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/19/th ... -it-needs/

After three rounds in the AFL, three things have become clear. Firstly, season 2012 will be the most intriguing premiership race for over a decade, with continual speculation over the premiership favourites.

Regardless of the betting agencies or bar conversations, Now there is the problem, ever body is talking about how lopsided it is and the betting agencies have the AFL the most lopsided odds ever. :D

The Pretenders I will now call it the pretenders league.... :D

The tag may be cruel especially this year, but while the six teams in this bracket may have improved, they are unlikely to seriously challenge for the 2012 flag. I had North Melbourne in the top eight pre-season and the early signs are they will take this next step.

Their pre-season form was strong, and while factors were in their favour against Geelong, a win against the reigning premier has been a long time coming for the Kangaroos. Their list is emerging and while they may still fall short against some of the top six, they will claim another scalp or two before season’s end.

St Kilda has been written off too soon, and while the gaps in their list are getting wider and their window may have closed, they are likely to compete with Sydney for a final eight berth. Richmond were judged harshly after round two considering who they lost to. They should improve on last year and may even sneak into the eight if they can keep their performances even.

Adelaide’s draw assists them, though to be fair they were a finalist two seasons ago and they have a lot of potential on their list. They are another who could make the eight without really threatening the top sides. Essendon is the last of this group – they have the potential to make finals, however they are equally likely to finish bottom six.

They do not seem to be growing as a team, however they also seem content to make measured progress, accepting their place in the pecking order while planning for the future.

The Intenders the intenders league

As the name suggests, this group can only make intentions to improve. Brisbane and Port Adelaide fit in this category; signs of improvement are there, but success is driven by individuals more than team effort, and they lack the consistent performances that finals teams require.

While I had Melbourne higher pre-season, they have been disappointing in almost every facet so far this year, and the immediate future does not look good. Many suggest they should commence another rebuild; the list does look good on paper and I am not convinced such drastic action is necessary. They do seem destined for bottom six in 2012, but also have more potential than others to reclaim their season.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for theWestern Bulldogs. They have some good players, particularly in the midfield, and they are able to get the ball enough to be a nuisance. They cannot execute in a way that renders them dangerous, so while we will see some cameo performances, too much is left to the same few.

GWS and Gold Coast will probably be excused again this year, and therefore will occupy the bottom two spots. While the Suns have more stars, GWS are undertaking a calculated five-year plan, and if they suitably complement their list in this year’s draft, they may improve faster than any other in this category next year.

While there may be some argument about where I have predicted teams to finish this season, it is hard to deny that the gap between the best and worst teams seems greater than before, and while most teams have potential to be competitive, realistic premiership chances will elude the bottom six.

With this structure, the league will have to contend with tanking teams and struggling clubs every season. Though the competition is cyclical, it can be a long time before your premiership window opens, and not all fans are patient.

Additionally, not all clubs realise their premiership dream during their window, and with 18 teams, some will experience prolonged droughts.

So Xman no tanking hey, you deluded little man wake up mate

It is not healthy to be entering round four with so many clubs declaring they are ‘preparing for next season’ and looking to rebuild. It is also a vulnerable state for non-financial clubs currently at the bottom of the ladder, as the journey to the top is longer than before.

Those at the top continue to grow strong and avoid bottoming out, so while they sustain performances on and off field, the challenge to usurp them becomes more difficult. Our current structure creates the mismatched games we have seen – and will continue to see – this year.

While footy fans have a lot to be excited about this year, the need for a radical change may become increasingly evident by season’s end.

[Xman]

Preparing for next season is tanking is it?

Flog!

[King-Eliagh]

Excellent article there eels and yes, right in line with what we've been discussing. As I said Xman, if you're not willing to discuss the difficult topics, then pisssssorrrrf. :P

We want to talk about reality here at TF :D

[eelofwest]

Brisbane arent competitive and you know it, otherwise you would have bet more than the feeble save face bet you put on with me. You dont think they'll win jack diddly in the first half of the season. And Fremantle kicked 16 behinds and 8 goals Xman you doofus. One of their worst kicking performances.If they had have kicked half decently they would have kicked 8 behinds and 16 goals, winning by, as you say, 10-15 goals.

Yes the suns can turn it on and be competitive when a competitive team is having a bad day or jetlagged. We must all remember this about the suns, they can get teams who come out well off their game.

Interesting article, backs up what we say about the basketcase teams only in this article they are called the intenders

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/19/th ... -it-needs/

After three rounds in the AFL, three things have become clear. Firstly, season 2012 will be the most intriguing premiership race for over a decade, with continual speculation over the premiership favourites.

Regardless of the betting agencies or bar conversations, Now there is the problem, ever body is talking about how lopsided it is and the betting agencies have the AFL the most lopsided odds ever. :D

The Pretenders I will now call it the pretenders league.... :D

The tag may be cruel especially this year, but while the six teams in this bracket may have improved, they are unlikely to seriously challenge for the 2012 flag. I had North Melbourne in the top eight pre-season and the early signs are they will take this next step.

Their pre-season form was strong, and while factors were in their favour against Geelong, a win against the reigning premier has been a long time coming for the Kangaroos. Their list is emerging and while they may still fall short against some of the top six, they will claim another scalp or two before season’s end.

St Kilda has been written off too soon, and while the gaps in their list are getting wider and their window may have closed, they are likely to compete with Sydney for a final eight berth. Richmond were judged harshly after round two considering who they lost to. They should improve on last year and may even sneak into the eight if they can keep their performances even.

Adelaide’s draw assists them, though to be fair they were a finalist two seasons ago and they have a lot of potential on their list. They are another who could make the eight without really threatening the top sides. Essendon is the last of this group – they have the potential to make finals, however they are equally likely to finish bottom six.

They do not seem to be growing as a team, however they also seem content to make measured progress, accepting their place in the pecking order while planning for the future.

The Intenders the intenders league

As the name suggests, this group can only make intentions to improve. Brisbane and Port Adelaide fit in this category; signs of improvement are there, but success is driven by individuals more than team effort, and they lack the consistent performances that finals teams require.

While I had Melbourne higher pre-season, they have been disappointing in almost every facet so far this year, and the immediate future does not look good. Many suggest they should commence another rebuild; the list does look good on paper and I am not convinced such drastic action is necessary. They do seem destined for bottom six in 2012, but also have more potential than others to reclaim their season.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for theWestern Bulldogs. They have some good players, particularly in the midfield, and they are able to get the ball enough to be a nuisance. They cannot execute in a way that renders them dangerous, so while we will see some cameo performances, too much is left to the same few.

GWS and Gold Coast will probably be excused again this year, and therefore will occupy the bottom two spots. While the Suns have more stars, GWS are undertaking a calculated five-year plan, and if they suitably complement their list in this year’s draft, they may improve faster than any other in this category next year.

While there may be some argument about where I have predicted teams to finish this season, it is hard to deny that the gap between the best and worst teams seems greater than before, and while most teams have potential to be competitive, realistic premiership chances will elude the bottom six.

With this structure, the league will have to contend with tanking teams and struggling clubs every season. Though the competition is cyclical, it can be a long time before your premiership window opens, and not all fans are patient.

Additionally, not all clubs realise their premiership dream during their window, and with 18 teams, some will experience prolonged droughts.

So Xman no tanking hey, you deluded little man wake up mate

It is not healthy to be entering round four with so many clubs declaring they are ‘preparing for next season’ and looking to rebuild. It is also a vulnerable state for non-financial clubs currently at the bottom of the ladder, as the journey to the top is longer than before.

Those at the top continue to grow strong and avoid bottoming out, so while they sustain performances on and off field, the challenge to usurp them becomes more difficult. Our current structure creates the mismatched games we have seen – and will continue to see – this year.

While footy fans have a lot to be excited about this year, the need for a radical change may become increasingly evident by season’s end.

I have underlined it made it bald and changed the font its right in front of you.

[Xman]

Underlined or not, it's an article on the roar FFS!

[King-Eliagh]

You've posted several roar articles xman.

[eelofwest]

Brisbane arent competitive and you know it, otherwise you would have bet more than the feeble save face bet you put on with me. You dont think they'll win jack diddly in the first half of the season. And Fremantle kicked 16 behinds and 8 goals Xman you doofus. One of their worst kicking performances.If they had have kicked half decently they would have kicked 8 behinds and 16 goals, winning by, as you say, 10-15 goals.

Yes the suns can turn it on and be competitive when a competitive team is having a bad day or jetlagged. We must all remember this about the suns, they can get teams who come out well off their game.

Interesting article, backs up what we say about the basketcase teams only in this article they are called the intenders

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/19/th ... -it-needs/

After three rounds in the AFL, three things have become clear. Firstly, season 2012 will be the most intriguing premiership race for over a decade, with continual speculation over the premiership favourites.

Regardless of the betting agencies or bar conversations, Now there is the problem, ever body is talking about how lopsided it is and the betting agencies have the AFL the most lopsided odds ever. :D

The Pretenders I will now call it the pretenders league.... :D

The tag may be cruel especially this year, but while the six teams in this bracket may have improved, they are unlikely to seriously challenge for the 2012 flag. I had North Melbourne in the top eight pre-season and the early signs are they will take this next step.

Their pre-season form was strong, and while factors were in their favour against Geelong, a win against the reigning premier has been a long time coming for the Kangaroos. Their list is emerging and while they may still fall short against some of the top six, they will claim another scalp or two before season’s end.

St Kilda has been written off too soon, and while the gaps in their list are getting wider and their window may have closed, they are likely to compete with Sydney for a final eight berth. Richmond were judged harshly after round two considering who they lost to. They should improve on last year and may even sneak into the eight if they can keep their performances even.

Adelaide’s draw assists them, though to be fair they were a finalist two seasons ago and they have a lot of potential on their list. They are another who could make the eight without really threatening the top sides. Essendon is the last of this group – they have the potential to make finals, however they are equally likely to finish bottom six.

They do not seem to be growing as a team, however they also seem content to make measured progress, accepting their place in the pecking order while planning for the future.

The Intenders the intenders league

As the name suggests, this group can only make intentions to improve. Brisbane and Port Adelaide fit in this category; signs of improvement are there, but success is driven by individuals more than team effort, and they lack the consistent performances that finals teams require.

While I had Melbourne higher pre-season, they have been disappointing in almost every facet so far this year, and the immediate future does not look good. Many suggest they should commence another rebuild; the list does look good on paper and I am not convinced such drastic action is necessary. They do seem destined for bottom six in 2012, but also have more potential than others to reclaim their season.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for theWestern Bulldogs. They have some good players, particularly in the midfield, and they are able to get the ball enough to be a nuisance. They cannot execute in a way that renders them dangerous, so while we will see some cameo performances, too much is left to the same few.

GWS and Gold Coast will probably be excused again this year, and therefore will occupy the bottom two spots. While the Suns have more stars, GWS are undertaking a calculated five-year plan, and if they suitably complement their list in this year’s draft, they may improve faster than any other in this category next year.

While there may be some argument about where I have predicted teams to finish this season, it is hard to deny that the gap between the best and worst teams seems greater than before, and while most teams have potential to be competitive, realistic premiership chances will elude the bottom six.

With this structure, the league will have to contend with tanking teams and struggling clubs every season. Though the competition is cyclical, it can be a long time before your premiership window opens, and not all fans are patient.

Additionally, not all clubs realise their premiership dream during their window, and with 18 teams, some will experience prolonged droughts.

So Xman no tanking hey, you deluded little man wake up mate

It is not healthy to be entering round four with so many clubs declaring they are ‘preparing for next season’ and looking to rebuild. It is also a vulnerable state for non-financial clubs currently at the bottom of the ladder, as the journey to the top is longer than before.

Those at the top continue to grow strong and avoid bottoming out, so while they sustain performances on and off field, the challenge to usurp them becomes more difficult. Our current structure creates the mismatched games we have seen – and will continue to see – this year.

While footy fans have a lot to be excited about this year, the need for a radical change may become increasingly evident by season’s end.

I have underlined it made it bald and changed the font its right in front of you.

Yeah and articles on the roar are written by the Fans. everybody is thinking about these problems except you. You should be charged with mental torture for what you put you brain through.

[Xman]

You've posted several roar articles xman.

The article on Roar is an opinion, not proof. I posted an article to show some RL fans think the NRL is boring. That's proof!

An article saying there is tanking isn't proof of tanking! It's proof some people believe teams tank. Most don't!

The entire argument about tanking is based on a misconception anyway. No team deliberately loses. Players will always try to win no matter what.

[King-Eliagh]

Oh the evidence suggests otherwise Xman. One day the coin will drop for you mate.

[Xman]

Oh the evidence suggests otherwise Xman. One day the coin will drop for you mate.

So for the umpteenth time, show us this evidence.....

[eelofwest]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/19/th ... -it-needs/
After three rounds in the AFL, three things have become clear. Firstly, season 2012 will be the most intriguing premiership race for over a decade, with continual speculation over the premiership favourites.

Regardless of the betting agencies or bar conversations, Now there is the problem, ever body is talking about how lopsided it is and the betting agencies have the AFL the most lopsided odds ever. :D

The Pretenders I will now call it the pretenders league.... :D

The tag may be cruel especially this year, but while the six teams in this bracket may have improved, they are unlikely to seriously challenge for the 2012 flag. I had North Melbourne in the top eight pre-season and the early signs are they will take this next step.

Their pre-season form was strong, and while factors were in their favour against Geelong, a win against the reigning premier has been a long time coming for the Kangaroos. Their list is emerging and while they may still fall short against some of the top six, they will claim another scalp or two before season’s end.

St Kilda has been written off too soon, and while the gaps in their list are getting wider and their window may have closed, they are likely to compete with Sydney for a final eight berth. Richmond were judged harshly after round two considering who they lost to. They should improve on last year and may even sneak into the eight if they can keep their performances even.

Adelaide’s draw assists them, though to be fair they were a finalist two seasons ago and they have a lot of potential on their list. They are another who could make the eight without really threatening the top sides. Essendon is the last of this group – they have the potential to make finals, however they are equally likely to finish bottom six.

They do not seem to be growing as a team, however they also seem content to make measured progress, accepting their place in the pecking order while planning for the future.

The Intenders the intenders league

As the name suggests, this group can only make intentions to improve. Brisbane and Port Adelaide fit in this category; signs of improvement are there, but success is driven by individuals more than team effort, and they lack the consistent performances that finals teams require.

While I had Melbourne higher pre-season, they have been disappointing in almost every facet so far this year, and the immediate future does not look good. Many suggest they should commence another rebuild; the list does look good on paper and I am not convinced such drastic action is necessary. They do seem destined for bottom six in 2012, but also have more potential than others to reclaim their season.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for theWestern Bulldogs. They have some good players, particularly in the midfield, and they are able to get the ball enough to be a nuisance. They cannot execute in a way that renders them dangerous, so while we will see some cameo performances, too much is left to the same few.

GWS and Gold Coast will probably be excused again this year, and therefore will occupy the bottom two spots. While the Suns have more stars, GWS are undertaking a calculated five-year plan, and if they suitably complement their list in this year’s draft, they may improve faster than any other in this category next year.

While there may be some argument about where I have predicted teams to finish this season, it is hard to deny that the gap between the best and worst teams seems greater than before, and while most teams have potential to be competitive, realistic premiership chances will elude the bottom six.

With this structure, the league will have to contend with tanking teams and struggling clubs every season. Though the competition is cyclical, it can be a long time before your premiership window opens, and not all fans are patient.

Additionally, not all clubs realise their premiership dream during their window, and with 18 teams, some will experience prolonged droughts.

So Xman no tanking hey, you deluded little man wake up mate

It is not healthy to be entering round four with so many clubs declaring they are ‘preparing for next season’ and looking to rebuild. It is also a vulnerable state for non-financial clubs currently at the bottom of the ladder, as the journey to the top is longer than before.

Those at the top continue to grow strong and avoid bottoming out, so while they sustain performances on and off field, the challenge to usurp them becomes more difficult. Our current structure creates the mismatched games we have seen – and will continue to see – this year.

While footy fans have a lot to be excited about this year, the need for a radical change may become increasingly evident by season’s end.

Anything to add Xman?

[Xman]

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/04/19/th ... -it-needs/
After three rounds in the AFL, three things have become clear. Firstly, season 2012 will be the most intriguing premiership race for over a decade, with continual speculation over the premiership favourites.

Regardless of the betting agencies or bar conversations, Now there is the problem, ever body is talking about how lopsided it is and the betting agencies have the AFL the most lopsided odds ever. :D

The Pretenders I will now call it the pretenders league.... :D

The tag may be cruel especially this year, but while the six teams in this bracket may have improved, they are unlikely to seriously challenge for the 2012 flag. I had North Melbourne in the top eight pre-season and the early signs are they will take this next step.

Their pre-season form was strong, and while factors were in their favour against Geelong, a win against the reigning premier has been a long time coming for the Kangaroos. Their list is emerging and while they may still fall short against some of the top six, they will claim another scalp or two before season’s end.

St Kilda has been written off too soon, and while the gaps in their list are getting wider and their window may have closed, they are likely to compete with Sydney for a final eight berth. Richmond were judged harshly after round two considering who they lost to. They should improve on last year and may even sneak into the eight if they can keep their performances even.

Adelaide’s draw assists them, though to be fair they were a finalist two seasons ago and they have a lot of potential on their list. They are another who could make the eight without really threatening the top sides. Essendon is the last of this group – they have the potential to make finals, however they are equally likely to finish bottom six.

They do not seem to be growing as a team, however they also seem content to make measured progress, accepting their place in the pecking order while planning for the future.

The Intenders the intenders league

As the name suggests, this group can only make intentions to improve. Brisbane and Port Adelaide fit in this category; signs of improvement are there, but success is driven by individuals more than team effort, and they lack the consistent performances that finals teams require.

While I had Melbourne higher pre-season, they have been disappointing in almost every facet so far this year, and the immediate future does not look good. Many suggest they should commence another rebuild; the list does look good on paper and I am not convinced such drastic action is necessary. They do seem destined for bottom six in 2012, but also have more potential than others to reclaim their season.

Sadly, the same cannot be said for theWestern Bulldogs. They have some good players, particularly in the midfield, and they are able to get the ball enough to be a nuisance. They cannot execute in a way that renders them dangerous, so while we will see some cameo performances, too much is left to the same few.

GWS and Gold Coast will probably be excused again this year, and therefore will occupy the bottom two spots. While the Suns have more stars, GWS are undertaking a calculated five-year plan, and if they suitably complement their list in this year’s draft, they may improve faster than any other in this category next year.

While there may be some argument about where I have predicted teams to finish this season, it is hard to deny that the gap between the best and worst teams seems greater than before, and while most teams have potential to be competitive, realistic premiership chances will elude the bottom six.

With this structure, the league will have to contend with tanking teams and struggling clubs every season. Though the competition is cyclical, it can be a long time before your premiership window opens, and not all fans are patient.

Additionally, not all clubs realise their premiership dream during their window, and with 18 teams, some will experience prolonged droughts.

So Xman no tanking hey, you deluded little man wake up mate

It is not healthy to be entering round four with so many clubs declaring they are ‘preparing for next season’ and looking to rebuild. It is also a vulnerable state for non-financial clubs currently at the bottom of the ladder, as the journey to the top is longer than before.

Those at the top continue to grow strong and avoid bottoming out, so while they sustain performances on and off field, the challenge to usurp them becomes more difficult. Our current structure creates the mismatched games we have seen – and will continue to see – this year.

While footy fans have a lot to be excited about this year, the need for a radical change may become increasingly evident by season’s end.

Anything to add Xman?

My comment would be people making judgments after 3 rounds are morons!

My team Essendon have won all three games and look champions! Yet they've played 2 of last years bottom 3. Richmond have played two of last years top 3 and are 1 win and two losses.

Making judgments after 3 rounds is ludicrous.

[King-Eliagh]

You made a judgement after three rounds Xman. That brissy wont win two games other than against the basketcases GWS Melb and GC

And i concur with your judgement :D